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March 04, 2010 12:18 AM UTC

UPDATE: Udall Has NOT Signed Public Option Letter

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  • by: Colorado Pols

Clarifying a post from Colorado Pols user sxp151, though the error certainly isn’t his/her fault. From The Spot:

In introducing a segment on the possibility that the public option may be revived through the reconciliation process in the Senate, Rachel Maddow announced last night that Sen. Mark Udall was the latest lawmaker to sign a letter to Harry Reid supporting the idea.

That perhaps was not surprising, since the blog Colorado Pols had been reporting it all day, sending out a tweet announcing the news. They apparently got it from the DailyKos, an influential liberal blog, whose scribes have been following the number of signers closely – a metric of just how close the Senate might be to reviving the possibility of a government-run insurance option as part of comprehensive health care reform.

Problem is, it’s not true.

Udall hasn’t signed the letter. And has said several times he doesn’t intend to.

How it gets reported as fact on the Rachel Maddow Show, the popular program on MSNBC, is an object lesson in the way that blogs pick up and report information – and the sometimes blurry line between political activism, spin, and journalism.

Denver Post reporter Mike Riley does a good job of tracking how this story got a little twisted by the time it ended up here on Colorado Pols, where it was promoted by Front Page Editor Middle of the Road. Not a huge deal, since we can quickly point out a correction here, but a good reminder for everyone to check the nuances of the situation before assigning a headline that might not fit the truth.

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47 thoughts on “UPDATE: Udall Has NOT Signed Public Option Letter

  1. I have already received and forwarded an e-mail from Credo Action asking people to thank him for signing.  Maybe he’ll get enough thank yous to convince him to sign? What does he have his aides tell people who call with thanks?  Awkward!

    On the plus side, Bennet himself appeared on Rachel Maddow so no doubts there.  

    1. Subject: Sen Udall came through for us.

      Thank Sen. Udall for fighting for the public option.

      Dear Thilly,

      Our campaign to ensure a public health insurance option gets an up-or-down vote in the Senate is on fire thanks to calls from constituents like you.

      This morning, three more senators – including Sen. Udall – came out in support passing the public option through “reconciliation,” which takes only 51 votes. That means we’re up to 33 votes in the Senate for a public option, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. These senators deserve our thanks.

      Can you call Sen. Udall and thank him for showing leadership in the public option fight?

      Just call him at 202-224-5941.

      When senators take a stand like this, it’s important that they know their constituents support them.

      Here’s a sample script you can use:

      Hi – my name is [NAME] and I live in [YOUR CITY], [YOUR STATE].

      I’m calling to thank Sen. Udall for publicly offering support for passing a public option through reconciliation, which requires only 51 votes in the Senate. It’s great to see bold leadership on this issue and I want to thank Sen. Udall for fighting for real health care reform.

      Thank you for fighting for health care reform.

      Matt Lockshin, Campaign Manager

      CREDO Action

      P.S. The full list of senators on board can be found here. And check out what the latest three votes for the public option said:

      Statement from Sen. Ron Wyden (OR):

      “I’ve long believed we need a more competitive insurance market. If the House version of the public option came up for a vote in reconciliation I would vote yes.”

      :Statement from Sen. Mark Udall’s office (CO):

      “Senator Udall shares President Obama’s over-arching priority of enacting meaningful and comprehensive health reform that will increase quality and access and put our system on a sustainable track by lowering costs for small businesses, taxpayers, and American families. As part of reform, he continues to feel that inclusion of a public option to go head-to-head with private insurers could play a significant role in bringing down costs and offering more affordable options to Coloradans. He thinks it’s important that such a plan – like the one approved in the House bill – negotiate reimbursement rates while competing on a level playing field with the private sector, and if such a plan comes up for a vote under the reconciliation process, he would vote for it.”

      Statement from Sen. Bob Casey (PA) spokesperson Larry Smar:

      “Sen Casey thinks that all options should be considered for moving forward legislation to insure more Americans, crack down on insurance company abuses, and get a handle on health care spending that is raising the deficit and threatening our economy. He has been a longtime advocate for a public option and he believes that it is the best way to increase choice and competition and to hold insurance companies accountable. He has made this known to Senate leadership as next steps are considered. If there is a vote on the House public option in reconciliation, he will vote yes. “

      1. Well it sure sounded like he had signed, especially considering everything else. But it does say

        This morning, three more senators – including Sen. Udall – came out in support passing the public option through “reconciliation,” which takes only 51 votes. That means we’re up to 33 votes in the Senate for a public option, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. These senators deserve our thanks.

        And now something about his supporting a public option only at the state level?  But if he meant state level, reconciliation would be irrelevant. So if he does support public option and reconciliation why not sign the letter?  I’m still confused.

        1. Because the letter didn’t specify certain provisions in the public option (regarding negotiated rates) and certain requirements for how to proceed with reconciliation. If it had, his spokeswoman said, he would have signed it immediately.

          1. Not legislation. Seems off base to be picky about that level of detail. But OK, if they say so. Udall still deserves thanks for support and guess the state only thing not accurate?  Rachel Maddow did a nice job of clearing up confusion about actual signing while still commending the non-signers for their support last night. More ado about not much, I guess.

  2. I don’t whether to be impressed or revolted.

    Statement from Sen. Mark Udall’s office (CO):

    “Senator Udall shares President Obama’s over-arching priority of enacting meaningful and comprehensive health reform that will increase quality and access and put our system on a sustainable track by lowering costs for small businesses, taxpayers, and American families. As part of reform, he continues to feel that inclusion of a public option to go head-to-head with private insurers could play a significant role in bringing down costs and offering more affordable options to Coloradans. He thinks it’s important that such a plan – like the one approved in the House bill – negotiate reimbursement rates while competing on a level playing field with the private sector, and if such a plan comes up for a vote under the reconciliation process, he would vote for it.”

      1. I don’t think it’s as simplistic as you want to make it, David. Here’s what Udall’s spokeswoman said when Riley asked, “So again, why not sign the letter?”

        “The Bennet letter itself was vague and didn’t clarify whether the public option in question would be based on Medicare rates and didn’t offer any context in which reconciliation would be used,” Trujillo said. “If the letter had said a public option based on negotiated rates and articulated that the reconciliation process in question was not starting over, but instead was to be used to supplement the Senate bill, Senator Udall would have signed it immediately.”

        It doesn’t fit on a bumpersticker, but we’re talking about some serious and complicated stuff here. Udall’s position might not be as monosyllabic as you’d like, but it’s not unclear, either. So Udall says, here are the conditions under which I’ll support a public option via reconciliation — sounds like an opening for public option supporters.

  3. I told you all a couple weeks back there was no chance in hell Udall was going to sign on the dotted line.  And who’s surprised Rachel Maddow is playing fast and loose with the facts?

    Keep movin’ people, nothing to see here.

        1. So Rachel agrees with many economists that deficit spending during the Great Recession is not a bad thing?

          So Rachel thinks that ‘climategate’ is–as a means to ‘disprove AGW’ i.e. a ‘…gate’ i.e. a significant (as in substantive) scandal–is made up?

          I am not saying Maddow is always right.  I am not saying that, as with every other pundit, she doesn’t overstate on occasion her case.  I am saying that compared to the bloviators populating cable shows on Faux Noise, she generally gets her facts right.  But we all know that reality has a liberal bias.  

            1. Your fact checking of all Fox News and Rush Limbaugh results in one video of Beck writing the world “oligarchy” with the wrong spelling on a chalk board.  Scaaaaaaaaaaandalous.

              Next please.

              1. He didn’t spell it ‘oligarky,’ ‘oligarcky,’ ‘olligarchy,’ or any other variation of the sort.  He spelled it with an ‘h’ but omitted the ‘c’.  He obviously knows how to spell it.  The way he wrote it, phonetically it would read “all-ig-are-he.”

                This would be a thin point/argument if he had spelled it with six W’s, three X’s, two J’s, and a Z.  But the way it is just proves how little you have in the way of “ammmo.”

                    1. Comedian Chris Mata faked the audio of the producer supposedly flipping out.

                      You’ve been punked by a 3 year old hoax.

                      Do you also forward all those e-mails about Nancy Pelosi’s 100 million dollar booze parties to your friends?

                    2. Until the cows come home and the Rapture comes. Thiessen is a complete fucking hypocrite and a moron.

                      Nice changing the subject though, this thread is about Mark Udall and the Public Option. Goodbye.

  4. First, Tara Trujillo is correct. The statement did not say Udall was co-signing the letter. In fact, most of the supposed co-signers since #18 or so have been the same–releasing statements rather than co-signing, for the reason that Tara Trujillo stated. They don’t support the Medicare or Medicare +5 public options, but the negotiated rate public option, and Bennet’s letter didn’t specify.

    But there is no evidence that Rachel Maddow got the “co-sgner” information from ColoradoPols. She listed Udall along with all the other “signatures” (none of whom actually “signed” but issued statements). At the same time, the on-screen graphic was from the DFA/PCCC/Credo website.

    Second, ColoradoPols didn’t “send out a tweet.” Just as Mike Riley’s blog does, a tweet is sent automatically whenever a blog is posted.

    Third, ColoradoPols is not cable news. It doesn’t “report” anything “all day.” Just like The Denver Post, it’s posted once and it’s posted unless someone edits it.

    Fourth, ColoradoPols didn’t report anything of the sort. As ColoradoPols reported above, the blog was posted by random community member sxp151 and promoted by elected front-page editor MOTR. If it’s fair to say that ColoradoPols reported anything, then the Denver Post has to take ownership of everything Ross Kaminsky and John Andrews ever posted to PoliticsWest (a Denver Post property that has since been replaced by The Spot).

    Here’s the thing. Community blogs like Daily Kos and ColoradoPols are not media sites. They are community sites. The content is created by regular people, not reporters. But the same can be said for the Denver Post, as most of the content there occurs in the comments below the articles. If ColoradoPols and the blogosphere as a whole have to own a minor headline error (as if the Denver Post proper never makes those kinds of mistakes), then the Denver Post has to own every statement made by every teabagger in the comments on their articles from the sensible ones to the ones wishing the white powder envelopes delivered to Congressional offices had actually killed people.

    1. Riley didn’t mention that Bennet was on the program. Maddow wasn’t just “introducing a segment on the possibility that the public option may be revived through the reconciliation process in the Senate,” she was introducing Michael Bennet. Will Riley own that omission?

      1. None of them very funny.

        The diary sxp linked to had been up for nearly an hour when he posted his here and the update from CREDO was a pretty clear confirmation of Wyden, Casey and Udall had signed on.

        Here’s the best part that the Post either doesn’t know or recognize–several of us called to thank Udall’s office for his support. I commented on it in sxp’s diary. His female staffer thanked me several times over, never mentioning that he had no intention of signing it. I specifically mentioned Bennet’s letter and CREDO. So who’s being disingenuous here? I’d say Udall.

        1. Read the e-mail, I posted it above.

          Nowhere in their e-mail does it say Udall, Wyden, or Casey had signed the letter.

          And as I said, it’s all for the same reason. They have very specific policy positions that the Bennet letter didn’t address.

          And the Credo/PCCC/DFA website is very clear:

          Some bold senators started a letter calling on Majority Leader Harry Reid to pass the public health insurance option through “reconciliation,” which only needs a simple majority in the Senate. Other senators have released statements, saying they will vote “yes” on the public option in reconciliation.

          It then goes to list whether it’s “letter” or “statement” or “unknown.”

            1. CREDO and Udall and everybody else are in fact toeing a fine line to present a unified front. It’s easy to misinterpret.

              And of course lost in this discussion is the reason for that policy fine line, which is a legitimate concern that Medicare’s rate structure is hosed, it hasn’t been updated since 1983, and neither Obama nor the Congressional leadership wanted to to to war with the doctors and insurance companies by messing with it in the process of this reform bill.

          1. When I say “signed on” I don’t mean they put their signature on a letter. I mean that they had come out for passing the public option through reconciliation, as reported by CREDO. As in “sign me up.”

            Hope that clarifies since there is so much confusion all the way around here.

                1. It’s good news. The fact that the headline wasn’t precise doesn’t mean it wasn’t accurate. If the Bennet letter had been specific, Udall would have physically signed it. Tara Trujillo said as much.

                  But the fact remains that Udall is for the public option that he said he’s for, which is the same public option that DFA/PCCC/CREDO give him kudos for saying that he’s for.

                  They think it’s good news and so do I.

  5. Here is what he said in a 9/9/09 Denver Post article:

    An additional question for senators: Are there any circumstances under which you would you support a reconciliation vote on a public option?

    Udall: I think it’s better for our country to pass health insurance reform legislation in a bipartisan manner. That has certainly been my approach to legislation. But the status quo is clearly not sustainable and it would be a shame to let this moment pass or be derailed by partisan politics. Congress should pass health insurance reform legislation by the end of the year. In the Senate, that means we may need to leave the option of a reconciliation vote, which requires a majority of Senators, on the table.

    So perhaps he feels the public option is too big a move to put in a reconciliation bill that is already controversial.

    Or perhaps he thinks this Bennet letter is strictly a “too little, too late” cover your ass political maneuver that has no chance of succeeding so why take the political risk of signing it?  It’s good for Bennet in the primary but what does it do for Udall?  Nothing unless the outcry from his Democratic constituents becomes so strong he must sign on.

    Udall does on occasion rebel against political bullcrap.  As with the gas tax holiday.

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