(And so begins [or perhaps continues] Mike Rosen’s decline from respected talk show host–and Denver Post columnist–to mindless pandering shock jock desperately seeking to maintain a following. This is just sad, for a lot of reasons. – promoted by Colorado Pols)
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On Wednesday night, I debated KHOW’s Peter Boyles and 850 KOA host/Denver Post columnist Mike Rosen in front of a sold out audience in Centennial. During a question about whether an Islamic Center should be allowed to be built in Lower Manhattan, Rosen said that if one is built, he supports terrorists blowing it up. You can listen to the full debate here, or the specific excerpt in question here. After both myself and Boyles said the Islamic Center should be allowed to be built, Rosen said:
“I think they should be allowed to build it, followed by the hijacking of an Iranian plane right into that building and blow it to smithereens.”
Remember, the same Mike Rosen now using his media platform to endorse a new terrorist attack on New York City, was the major voice leading the crusade pressuring University of Colorado to fire professor Ward Churchill. In the clip, you’ll first hear my voice, then Rosen, then conservative host Peter Boyles (who you can hear disagreeing with Rosen and agreeing with me).
If you listen to the whole debate, in addition to this exchange, you’ll also hear Rosen periodically make sexist and racist jokes.
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DS – Rosen said a lot of crazy things that night.
He was clearly playing to the crowd and trying to be over the top crazy…racist, sexist, homophobic and all kinds of things.
The guy should have been arrested for talking about hijacking planes and crashing them in the US.
But this is going in an entirely different direction. A few months back there was a big story about how his ratings weren’t nearly as high as what KOA thought.
Is it possible Rosen is making a calculated decision to try to maintain some segment of a loyal audience by following the lead of folks like Glenn Beck? Rosen never used to say things like this, did he?
I hope to listen to the debates myself (I see it is nearly two hours), but if anyone has other examples of Rosen at the debate, that would be interesting.
I mean, even as a bleeding heart I understand that we all tell insensitive jokes in private. I sure as hell do. But Mike Rosen knows better. He also knows damn well he’s too rich and too white for anyone to take this as a serious terrorist threat, even though the same comments by any Muslim would get the PATRIOT Act invoked to monitor all their communications.
Since it was Mike Rosen’s idea then he should be one of the hijackers, let’s also load the plane up with Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh and others of their ilk.
Then we’ll keep our fingers crossed and hope that those on the Iranian jetliner foil the plot the way the passengers of flight 93 did on 9/11.
The only real loss would be the innocent passengers on board.
We’ve had our differences, Sirota, but if this is true then Rosen has descended to a level of sleaze that surprises even me. We need to hold him up as a poster-child for the Colorado GOP.
The clapping and whooping after Rosen’s comment seems disturbing as well.
you hit the nail on the head
the clapping after Rosen’s comments are much more disturbing
And anyone that thinks this was a tongue-in-cheek joke – those were not people laughing – that was an applause
Actually cute, but sad. Pols thinks they can take down Rosen. Obviously he was saying that tongue-in-cheek, but it’s quite an apt comparison to make.
while using the “poor taste” or “insensitive” argument against the building of the cultural center.
Not that you’ve ever let hypocrisy get in the way of proving your own stupidity to everyone here before.
Which part is “sad,” Rosen calling for a terrorist attack or Pols promoting this diary criticizing him? You do realize this is probably national news, don’t you? It won’t be taken as a joke in the Arab world.
I think what is sad, and a little chilling, is your readiness to cheer anything, even the most disgusting statement imaginable short of something Osama bin Laden himself would say. I’m frankly shocked to see even you defending this, but that is how low your side has taken the debate. Not ours.
Rosen was offensive that night. Some radio show hosts have been fired over much less.
Maybe so. Do you think cold blooded murder is funny?
Actually, I’m still in stitches over the mountain of skulls left by Tamerlane. (sarcasm intended.)
I think I’ve got a pretty normal sense of humor, and I’m not getting it. That doesn’t even qualify as sarcasm or satire. And the response from the audience qualifies as truly disturbing.
I’m glad terrorists, sexists, and human rights violators have somebody sticking up for them on Pols. I’ll just reply to this comment and hope everybody else reads it. They hypocrisy here is glaring. People want to build an entire monument celebrating the attack on 9/11, and they get a pass, but Mike Rosen makes one joke about the same thing happening to THEIR building, and liberals are outraged! Outraged, I tell ya! Excuse me while I cry for our country.
There you go, making me violate my promise to keep it civil. But this is just so fucking stupid that I can’t help myself.
Here’s WHY it’s stupid. THE PARK 51 MOSQUE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TERRORISTS.
The guy who reported that it did was found to be a kiddie raper. And you believed it.
Stupid.
(He hasn’t been found guilty yet.)
I’m sure that won’t matter to beej. Cons usually call for blood on the flimsiest of evidence, although he may temper that impulse since this guy did such good work for them.
They would have moved it otherwise. Do a little bit of research into the imam trying to build it.
and give me just one link showing that? Get me started on my research.
Oh, right, you can’t because that’s a lie.
He has ties to Hamas and some other terrorist organizations.
Probably will tell me to google it or something, because that’s the only way to cover your lie.
We discussed it here. Your excuse for a brain obviously translated it in to what you wanted to hear, or threw it out altogether because it didn’t match your reality.
Is a major shareholder in News Corp, and Rupert Murdoch is a major shareholder in his media empire in Saudi Arabia. So we should go after Fox News instead 🙂
He owns them through another company that he is part owner of.
is total bull, Beej. You know absolutely nothing. You just vomit stuff the wacko right makes up.
is like talking to an EST graduate – we speak the same words, but they comprise two completely different languages.
Tell me, does 2+2=5 in your everyday world? Is your math as off-kilter as your writing?
I say this in all seriousness. It overwhelmingly saddens me to see you saying these absurd and deeply hateful things. I pray – to the same God you pray to – that you, and the percentage of Americans you represent, will someday come to your senses. If you do not, you and those like you will destroy what is left of America’s moral authority. You are killing with xenophobia and hate the very ideals that have made America a leader in the world. I can’t hardly bear to watch it.
Which people are those?
Lying sack of shit!
Can we just ignore this troll? (Looks in mirror) Please?
You’ve dug yourself a hole.
Most people would quit digging.
…that terrorists should blow up a Catholic church because libertarians such himself oppose the Pope’s stance on abortion, that “tongue-in-cheek” remark would be OK too, right?
The Catholic church has never blown up a building, so it wouldn’t be funny. Now if he made a similar joke in reference to Ayers, it would be pretty funny. Interesting how he gets a pass too. This whole diary is just Sirota’s little pity party because he lost the debate.
But the Catholic church sanctioned the mass murder of Jews and Muslims when Jerusalem was captured. It also sanctioned the capture and sack of Constantinople, a Christian city, because the people there were Orthodox. They were called “Crusades,” Beej, and they remain an indelible stain on the Christian Church.
That’s like saying we should hate all Italians today because of Julius Ceasar’s conquests. If you do want go back that far though, you should present both sides of the story. Muslims were brutal in their conquests as well. It was “convert or die”.
During the Muslim occupation(s) of the Holy Land, Jews were not forced to convert, and lived in relative peace with the Muslims.
As to the brutality of conquest, welcome to war. People get hurt, and some of them have bad things done to them.
And you might consider Bush 43’s “crusade” statement before dismissing the Crusades as irrelevant – most peoples still remember the battles fought against them many centuries past, and stupid things like that can re-open old wounds quickly.
You defend brutal conquest, but then condemn the Crusades?
You are a narcissist. It’s a common result of home schooling, which deprives children of the chance for adequate socializing. You’re conditioned at an early age to believe the sun rises and sets in your ass. When you commit horrible blunders or outright lies, — both of which you just did — you get defensive and lash out at anyone who criticizes you.
As one source, I cite J.F.C. Fuller’s Military History of the Western World.
I defy you to cite a single credible source for your blatant lies and hate speech. Also, the writings of Fletcher Pratt.
One source. Just one source — other than your ass.
Insulting me doesn’t work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N…
As a rule, Muslims tolerated “people of the book” — Jews, Christians — if they paid a special tax. The tax was often less than the Christian Lords had been extracting from their subjects. Jews were especially happy to live under Moslem rule because Christians often did give them the alternative of convert or die.
That was what the Inquisition was all about. See also, the expulsion or murder of Jews from Spain following the Reconquista.
free advice: Do a few minutes research before making shit up, or else be quiet about things about which you are manifestly ignorant.
Not until well into the 20th Century did the treatment of Jews by Arabs even begin to approximate the persecution they suffered at the hands of Christians like yourself.
Where did you learn your revisionist history?
It’s easy to write the history books when you have contemporaneous accounts to go from.
You’re a great foil for the Republican Party, BJ – projecting your revisionist history upbringings on to others…
Beej should get an A++ for Advanced Historical Ignorance.
OTOH, he obviously failed Intro to Historical Knowledge.
Way to miss the point, which is that YOU said the Catholics never blew up a building, and Voy pointed out the Church’s nevertheless bloody history that is very much comparable. So what makes no sense is you saying that that happened a long time ago. Why? Because you said “Never.”
Since you’re probably going to be a stickler, I can tell you that they did destroy many buildings and non-Christian places of worship all throughout their history.
Ignorance is bliss for the Beejster.
They haven’t blown a building in 100’s of years. Hey guys, there was this thing that happened 10 years ago where radical Islamic terrorists flew two fully loaded planes into both of the WORLD TRADE TOWERS and the PENTAGON, killing thousand of people and scarring the nation. You may be hell bent on defending this, but I sure as heck ain’t.
Just ONE.
the explosion of comments that just happened?
You are a gutless wonder.
This diary is about Mike Rosen’s suggestion that we allow Park 51 to be built, then hijack an Iranian (note – no 9/11 terrorists from there) plane and crash it in to the building (killing whoever’s in the plane, the building, the vicinity…)
Not a one of us has said anything in defense of 9/11, which you admit was caused by RADICAL (read: not normal) Islamic terrorists (read: not regular Muslims).
and any christians and jews who might be in the neighborhood, as well as passengers on the Iranian aircraft.
Sociopath.
Why don’t you move to Iran for a while if you love it so much? I think you probably wouldn’t be defending terrorists anymore by the time you got back.
Why don’t you come to the next Pols meetup? I want to see how you acquit yourself in person.
I’d be afraid to show up. “Brutal conquests” are apparently ok, so who knows what you’d do to me.
Yeah, liars don’t tend to do well in face to face meetings.
Jesus must be so shamed by you.
because I know a lot more than you. I know what He preached, what He taught, and what He said you needed to do in order to reach the Kingdom of Heaven. And it’s the polar opposite of what you do and what you say.
Why do you have so much hatred in your heart? It’s incredibly sad.
the day we were attacked, and the fact that no one gives them the barest iota of respect.
I’m so freakin’ angry at all you turncoats who would throw the 3,000 who died that day and all who have died overseas defending are freedom under the bus in the name of political correctness; trying to shut up anyone who makes the barest hint toward asking how Muslims would react if the same thing happened to the mosque, that I’m going to have to stop typing for a while.
Because you’ve thrown gasoline on the fire and divided us further. Good job, Benedict Arnold.
And everything to do with respecting the rights of others to worship as they choose, and for standing up when someone advocates for terrorist acts against Americans, especially for terrorist acts on American soil against Americans. Like it or not, BJ, the people who will go to the Park 51 Center will be American citizens, JUST LIKE YOU.
with your bullshit. This certainly pays them no respect, nor does opposing Park 51, the place led by the imam that’s such a terrorist that he’s walking around on the streets instead of rotting at Guantanamo.
so cowards like you could insult my patriotism.
There are days when I think it wasn’t worth it.
you carried arms in defense of your country because of the brutal attack we suffered. For you to know stomp on the graves of those you swore to defend is just unconscionable.
Just shut up, or get off your yellow ass and sign up for the war you want to fight.
Just shut up. Don’t mention the inconvenient truths we don’t want to hear.
thy name is Beej.
thy name is Beej. He claims to speak for those of us who have served in our country’s military. And is would never, ever, have the guts to do it himself. He applauds the idea of killing defenseless muslims by crashing a plane into a mosque. He’d shit his pants if he ever came up against a jihadist who could shoot back.
Oh, forget my suggestion that you sign up for the military, beej. They don’t need cowards.
And we’re supposed to believe you got honors in letters, or whatever it was.
that you dishonor the memory of our fighting men and women by purporting to speak for them.
Like I say, big mouth, the military recruiting stations are still open if you ever get the guts to put your body where your mouth is. Otherwise, get used to being called a chicken hawk.
Were you dishonorably discharged? Going around calling people chicken hawks doesn’t seem like something a military man with any honor would do. I am able to serve my country far better through the research that I do than by being a soldier. So quit your self righteous yammering. I am an American, you’re an American, we’re all Americans.
All Americans. But apparently some Americans are more American than others, aren’t they beej?
BTW, the wars are winding down beej. Who says you can’t serve your country more than one way? My college math prof was a career air force man, and full of stories of how he used math in the course of his job.
But they are very calloused and cold-hearted Americans to disrespect the lives of those lost on 9/11 in that way.
You have never spent one second serving your country.
In other words, spewing hate on a blog is equivalent to military service? Tell that to Nathan Hale, you yellow-bellied asshole.
I wasn’t talking about blogging. I work on the mathematics that goes into the design of technology that keeps our soldiers safe. That’s probably more than you can every say you’ve done for our soldiers.
And then vote for politicians who send those soldiers into harm’s way on the flimsiest of excuses and evidence, and funnel money that SHOULD go into body armor and the like toward contractors instead. Good work, Sergeant York.
I actually think we should probably pull out of Afghanistan if we can’t make any progress there.
You are utterly without shame, and so bent on trying to score points with your nonexistent wit that you basically just said that Obama started the war.
Buh bye.
Yeah I know, somehow when Obama sent troops to Afghanistan it became ok for politicians to do it, but when Bush did it he was the devil incarnate.
Buh bye yourself, and good riddance.
and he was right to do so.
Obama has continued it.
He is right to do so.
Bush also fought an optional, unnecessary and counter-productive sideshow war in Iraq.
He was wrong to do so.
Obama opposed the Iraq war.\
He was right to do so.
As president, Obama recognized the progress belatedly made in Iraq and strove to wind down the war as quickly and honorably as possible.
It remains to be seen if he can do so.
Secretary Powell (and Secretary Weinberger) said it well:
Is a vital national security interest threatened?
Do we have a clear, attainable, military objective?
Have the risks and costs been fully analyzed?
Are all other non-military policy options fully exhausted?
Is there a plausible exit strategy?
Have the consequences of our action or inaction been fully considered?
Is the action supported by the American people?
Do we have genuine broad international support?
This worked well in 90-91, though I think the Gulf War was avoidable up until Sep 1990.
And would have worked i01-03 if President bush would have listened. Or secretary Rumsfeld was into it.
Even Obama acknowledges this. Reid and Obama said the surge wouldn’t work.
He took his eyes off of Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden in order to prosecute a war that he and his compatriots had to Make Shit Up in order to sell it to us.
He wasted our treasure, and the blood of the soldiers entrusted to him, to fight a war that now leaves Iran as the major power in the region, more distrustful than before, and more determined to build a nuclear weapon than before.
He has destroyed the lives of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens, and displaced millions more.
Just because a country wins a war – even if it’s our country – does not mean it was right to start it.
Bush did the more for Iraqis and for the world than any president before him. He gave the Iraqis freedom from a tyrannical, oppressive regime, and who can forget his work on AIDS in Africa?
PR, beej is not capable of speaking truthfully about this, or any topic. Let’s politely ignore his flatulence instead of calling attention to it, shall we?
PR is doing just fine.
already in the budget in 2001 when he came in to office?
STFU.
You have pissed off a large number of people who have served America 24/7 for a significant portion of their lives.
Cut your losses. Go away. Do some form of penance. You are ignorant and too stupid to realize this.
Then, maybe, maybe we won’t spit on you the next time we see your puny yellow bellied poor excuse for the displacement of a few cubic feet of air.
Now … it’s beer-thirty. So long, CO Pols. Until next time.
I am a proud American and I have a 1st amendment right to speak. You all have pissed me off today by insulting virtually every person who has died or put their life on the line to defend our country. Those 3,000 Americans may be collateral damage to you all, but the rest of America mourns their loss and condemns the evil men who perpetrated such a heinous and dastardly attack on American soil. To quote Monty Python, I spit in your general direction.
Who is too chickenshit to fight a war you support, and who insults veterans and questions their service.
I’ll bet you have a made-in-China yellow ribbon on your car, though.
What a loser.
You only have a first amendment right not to have the government restrict your speech.
It’s anyone’s right to tell you to shut the fuck up, asshole.
is because a long line of us running from Concord Bridge to Afghanistan fought to uphold the Constitition of this nation. And won.
Without us, you’d be studying German to beg your concentration camp guard for a crust of bread.
So go fuck yourself.
And don’t use a condom.
Get some help.
that boy does have a knack for hijacking a thread, doesn’t he? He could turn the morning prayer into a denunciation of veterans.
There’s trolls and lurkers and sockpuppets and now there’s TB’s.
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I love when conservatives prove they have no real understanding of the 1st Amendment.
We haven’t pissed you off today by insulting anyone but you. You seem hell bent on using the tragedy of 9/11 to distract from your own cowardice and ignorance. Unfortunately for you, there are hundreds of your cowardly and ignorant comments here for all to see.
So was my brother, my uncle, and my father in law. My father in law was a combat engineer in Normandy. Tell him how you sitting in a lab spending tax payer dollars was more valuable to our country than what they did at Omaha Beach.
My great uncle gave me the rundown on Omaha – he was an infantry cook. Set up the second kitchen.
He was clear- the engineers had it the worst. In his more colorful way of saying – those guys were really in the shit
building bridges, disarming booby traps, etc. — often under fire. Usually, they couldn’t even shoot back.
Like most combat vets, he didn’t talk about it much. But one day my brother-in-law went to the garage and my father
inlaw was there, in his truck, just sobbing and saying, over and over,My comrades had it rough in nam, but the men in World War II had a far tougher job. But none of it was easy. I don’t mean myself, I served but never suffered anything worse than really bad haircuts.
bad hair days are a bitch. In the desert I had the cook cut my hair. Every day. Except the day he cooked the horse. Long story- but it had to be done.
Congrats, thanks for your service. Now quit using it to pretend you’re better than everyone else.
You were the one who got into how much more you were doing for our country than these people who have served, knowing that they might be called on to take up arms and put themselves in great danger.
You were the one that questioned their patriotism, honor, and service.
You are the one defending Mike Rosen’s tasteless (read: offensive) comments at the debate – comments that most assuredly would not help our soldiers overseas should they be brought to international attention.
That’s why I reacted they way I did.
We pushed back on your defense of Rosen. And while posters did point out that comparing your work to military service was rather ridiculous (only because it is) no one questioned your love of country because of it.
Show some respect – see that’s not about you. It’s about others.
You’re a chicken hawk. Deal with it.
5 U.S.C. В§ 3331, Oath of Office
I volunteered almost 30 years ago. Obviously, 9/11 was not the specific motivation for my voluntary service because it had not happened yet. But it was events like that or others that made me believe the US would be a better place, and therefore the world would be a better place, if the US military had talented, dedicated people. (I figured the DOD could teach me the former if I was the latter.)
Notice – the oath I swore (right out of federal law) was not to avenge any particular attack, nor to respect the lives of any particular person. Rather, the oath is to defend the US Constitution.
It pisses me off when people like you misinterpret my service. I didn’t “carry arms” in defense of country because of any single event, no matter how nasty. I did it to defend the USA, the Constitution, against all enemies, exactly as stated. I did it for you (you’re welcome) and your parents, and neighbors and everyone you know and everyone you never heard of and people I agree with and people I disagree with. I did it for the Constitution and the USA.
You do not understand. Your education has not prepared you for this. It’s ok, a lot of Americans don’t understand. But most of them are respectful and you should be too.
No one here is stomping on the graves of the Americans who died on 9/11. Everyone who participated in that attack should be executed.
But blowing up another airplane in Manhattan is not funny. Making it an Iranian airplane does not make it funny. Crashing it into the Muslim community center/mosque does not make it funny.
There is a mosque in the Pentagon. If Rosen had callously suggested attacking the Pentagon to blow that up would you be defending him?
The fact that it’s in the USA and if blown up by a crashed airplane would surely be considered an attack on the US. Against which I swore an oath.
Now, I believe Rosen was caught up in the moment and was playing to the crowd and trying to be over the top. Chris Rock does it. Eddie Murphy did it. George Carlin Don Rickles, Buddy Hacket (blue), and lots of others have gone over the top and offended people. So I’m willing to acknowledge that humor is often subjective,
But nothing about this statement by Rosen is funny.
“affirm” may be substituted for “swear” and the last line referencing God maybe omitted if the the person making the Oath has objection.
It doesn’t matter if they are muslim/christian/latino whatever.. It is still calling out for a terrorist attack on AMERICANS.
Sick and anyone who would condone such a statement is sick as well and imo, unpatriotic fucktards
BJ – will never ever understand. He equates working on some formulas safe and sound at school to taking that oath. He doesn’t comprehend the weight of those words once spoken. He never will.
Those that have taken the oath fought for his right to wallow in ignorance. We’ve died and been wounded so he could disrespect us and our service with complete impunity.
I have to say though, this is the first I’ve EVER heard someone compare military service and math class as if they’re the same. Brilliant.
both need more cowbell, and
Military service is tough.
Math class IS tough!!! Unless, of course, you’re the BrainJob(NOT).
Math class doesn’t require self-sacrifice. Military service does.
Catholics have been engaged in terrorism in Northern Ireland.
I suppose one could change the original hypothetical to blowing up Orthodox churches, given the genocidal acts of recent Serbian governments.
the kids.
The Church hierarchy was not a sponsor. It was slow to condemn. Too many Catholics were willing to look away and see one incident as just one in isolation that had nothing to do with anything.
Non-radical Muslims need to condemn the terror and the violence and help stop it. Catholics need to condemn the abuse and to learn and teach kids what to look for to help stop it.
are killed for opposing terror.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10…
And I’m sure you can tell us how he lost because you listened to or attended the debate, and can recite the points where Rosen bested Sirota – within the next five minutes.
Failure to do this will be taken as proof that you’re lying.
And you haven’t answered the question.
You’re a liar.
You didn’t watch or hear the debate, yet you claimed you did.
I’m going to pray that God forgives you for breaking the Ninth Commandment.
Who the hell cares about which radio show host “won” a staged “debate”? They aren’t running for office.
I thought you guys didn’t like him because he wouldn’t get in line or something.
It really shouldn’t matter who is presenting the facts.
And when someone stands up to hatred and ignorance, they deserve accolades. Period.
You are so blinded by ideology, Beej, that you wouldn’t recognize a fact even if it had been teabagging you all night.
Your equating the actions of those terrorist with the rest of Isalm is banal and lame. I suppose we should blame Christians for Timothy McVeigh or Fred Phelps?
And Phelps loves Beej. Put them in a dark room togeher and they’d be in tea bag heaven.
…Saying Tiger Woods would order fried chicken and watermelon for the Masters’ Champions dinner was cute folksy humor too.
Is there anything that is too distasteful too joke about (except you, H-Man, and Ken Buck’s balls?)
I would say Rosen’s joke was pretty mild.
I would say Rosen’s joke was pretty mild.
You are completely unhanged from reality. Please, Beej. Please show me where anyone here has called, joking or not, for a 9/11-style terrorist attack. Right down to hijacking a plane and crashing it into fucking lower Manhattan.
I’m trying to keep my jaw from gaping open while I watch you defending this utterly indefensible statement. You are…I believe the word is scary. And not in a personally threatening way. Just fucking scary.
Frustrating to type right now. I’m amazed to be having this conversation at all.
It was satire.
And the people in the audience who cheered Rosen’s remarks certainly didn’t take it that way. FAIL again.
Just plain stupid.
for your attacks on fellow polsters. But this post redeems you. It’s not easy to make Ward Churchill look reasonable. But that disgusting feat was performed by Rosen.
Just a point well made.
DS is still a thin-skinned pantywaist.
for saying that.
I have my issues with him, but he acquitted himself quite well in this debate, and is on our team in fundamental ways for all of his various flaws. What he exposed here is going to reverberate.
It notes he did redeem himself today.
…and was a total prick too.
I’d have to rank FDR as one of the biggest pricks ever to haunt the oval office. Yet, he was our greatest president after Lincoln.
So, I’ll let his personal life be between him and eleanor (and missy, and his wife’s social secretary, and …well, the list is long.)
he held the world together and hoisted America up when she was down… all on Polio crippled legs.
the news reporters had enough respect for him to not Photograph him in his wheelchair. because he was the ONLY one qualified for the job at the time.
…but I have a lot of trouble getting over the interment of our Japanese brothers and sisters – that was a terrible black mark in our history
which is hardly knocking him. But read any of the good bios on him and you’ll realize he was also a prick. Why Elanor didn’t leave the bastard after he two-timed her with lucy mercer — to Social Secretary for Christ’s sake — I can’t understand.
with the overwhelming evidence in my favor.
I listened to the audio – and Rosen is advocating for a terrorist attack on American soil? He’s gone over the edge this time.
I hope someone sent this to Olbermann….
The vast majority of comments on this thread are in response to a person defending Rosen’s remarks.
Let it go – arguing with people that are assured they are right is a waste of time and only keeps them coming back for more.
Ignore, take a deep breath, ignore, take a deep breath, ignore some more…
People like this don’t ‘win’ if you ignore them – they just continue being ill informed and narrow minded.
For the sake of the discourse on this site – ignore them – they aren’t worth the replies!
As usual.
You are right, of course.
May we all receive a large infusion of self-discipline and never, ever respond again. Responses give away power, give in to manipulation.
Does reveling in one’s unadulterated ignorance in public violate the TOU?
If not, you might consider making it a banning offense. It would certainly rate as a “new and exciting” component of the TOU.
Shame.
This thread has been thoroughly hijacked by BJ.
No point reading or commenting further.
This thread has been thoroughly
hijacked by BJ.…RACIST RINOs are the WORST!
Mike Rosen supported TARP
Mike Rosen is against 60, 61, and 101
Mike Rosen supports blowing up Mosques
Screw you Mike Rosen – you’re a racist rino, whose only core conviction is bigotry
I suppose Rosen being right about two out three is okay…
You are happy to be friends with racist republicans, whose only core conviction is bigotry, but call them to the carpet when they are “RINOs”?
Interesting where you draw the line.
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Based on this original movie –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…
“I don’t care” was killing me.
That is comic relief, and apropos.
I wish I could use “I don’t care” in defending the Big Bad 3
🙂
regardless of what it really means to be American even disregarding the Constitution altogether.
of course hiding behind the Constitution when convenient to themselves. Never-mind anyone else’s Rights. they focus solely on their own.
I did not get into this as I knew bj’s lack of true understanding of history and warped sense of Patriotism… would prove him to actually be a subversive.
bj and all republicans deny that Nazism is a far RIGHT ideology. they rely on simple definitions to distance themselves from where their Ideology truly leads to.
the fact of Rosens Bigoted and violent expression towards the Islamic center is used to stir fear and advocates continued conflict. When the simple solution is
1)to allow the Center to be built.
2)those opposed should actually build a mega-church across the street for real competition.
3)as a “Mosque” across the street from a “church” possibly a “synagogue” also. would actually invite Free market competition. as well as show the world how true American exceptional-ism trumps religious hate.
4) imagine if those three were across the street from one another? the interfaith cooperation would showcase How Great America really is in overcoming The Hate generated by BOTH sides of the issue.