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June 04, 2011 05:03 AM UTC

El Paso County Republican Party Staw Poll Results!

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  • by: Ryan.Parsell

(Romney by a mile, trailed by Pawlenty and the Herminator – promoted by Colorado Pols)

Earlier this week, the El Paso County Republican Party hosted Karl Rove as their Lincoln Day Dinner speaker.  Along with the event, Chairman Eli Bremer tasked me with conducting a Presidential Primary Straw Poll.  

The results are after the fold.

Methodology:

The ballot was designed to measure the current field as represented by announced candidates (including those that have formed exploratory committees) as well as any candidate that has expressed a reasonable level of interest.  People that have announced their intention to not seek the nomination were taken at their word and excluded (except for Rick Perry, who has recently opened the door).

The dinner had 622 attendees.  Of that, approximately 277 actually returned ballots.  The difference in participation could be due to various reasons, such as a limited number and placement of ballot boxes.

Declared Candidates:

Candidate Votes Percentage
Herman Cain 44 16..67%
Newt Gingrich 25 9.47%
Ron Paul 11 4.17%
Tim Pawlenty 54 20.45%
Mitt Romney 106 40.15%
Rick Santorum. 24 9.09%
Gary Johnson 0 0.00%
Roy Moore 0 0.00%
Buddy Roemer 0 0.00%
Illiegal/Blank 11 NA

All Potential Candidates:

Candidate Votes Percentage
Michele Bachman 42 16.22%
Josh R. Bolton 2 0.77%
Herman Cain 29 11.20%
Newt Gingrich 8 3.09%
Rudy Giuliani 18 6.95%
Jon Huntsman Jr. 5 1.93%
Gary Johnson 0 0.00%
Roy Moore 0 0.00%
Sarah Palin 27 10.42%
Ron Paul 4 1.54%
Tim Pawlenty 25 7.72%
Rick Perry 20 7.72%
Buddy Roemer 1 0.39%
Mitt Romney 48 18.53%
Rick Santorum 9 3.47%
Illegal/Blanks 17 NA
Write Ins:
Chris Christie 11 4.25%
Donald Trump 3 1.16%
Paul Ryan 2 0.77%
Allen West 1 0.39%
Matt Arnold 1 0.39%
John Suthers 1 0.39%
Karl Rove 1 0.39%
Bill Cadman 1 0.39%

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100 thoughts on “El Paso County Republican Party Staw Poll Results!

  1. Looks like a trend forming. The real thinkers, it is not often anyone can say there is creativity in the R’s ranks, are showing good form in the straw polls. Palin and Bachman provide us with some of the weirdest history stories ever conceived by man or beast. This last week Palin came up with some story, I am not convinced it had anything to do with Paul Revere at all, to enthrall us all with her grasp of storytelling. Or at least something that sure sounds more like a peyote and frog licking story telling than any version of real life or history.

        1. Lots of links, but no evidence that he either understands what they contain, never mind his Leader’s flub that started the whole conversation.

          1. … if Der Palin flubs the question, it’s a “gocha” question. Nice to know that she can just give well-defined terms new meanings whenever it suits her.

            “But remember, the British had already been there for seven years in that area, and part of Paul Revere’s ride – and it wasn’t just one ride, he was a courier, he was a messenger – was to warn the British that were already there, that you’re not going to succeed, you’re not going to take American arms, you’re not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual private militia that we have.

            “He did warn the British,” she added. “In a shout-out, gotcha type of question that was asked of me, I answered candidly and I know my American history.”

            (h/t SLOG)

          2. I have to demonstrate my intelligence as well? I don’t know how else you want me to do it. I’ve been blogging here for about a year now.

            1. You have no intelligence.

              You might have blogged here for a year, but as yet you have failed to impress anyone with your “intelligence.”

              Better luck at Free Republic or Redstate.

              1. Really Aristotle, the longer you post here the less logical you become. I guess that’s the natural progression from RedState to Pols, so I shouldn’t be surprised. Did you even click on the first link that explained exactly how those documents support the case? Or are you too dumb to get it even when it is explained to you?

                1. It was a stupid hard right blog. The very definition of the people who can’t be trusted.

                  Now, beej, why don’t you show your work? If those links prove anything, YOU tell us where and how, mm-kay? This is your chance to move up to the big kids’ table.

                  1. I have no need of your approbation, but I’ll probably be posting an article on my blog explaining the situation to the apparently ill-informed American public. Do they teach history in schools these days? At least the major newspapers, scholars, and historians are agreeing with Palin.

                    1. to warn the British by ringing bells ‘You won’t be taking away our guns.’

                      NEW YORK, June 6 (UPI) — American historians say they dispute Sarah Palin’s Paul Revere ride interpretation, agreeing the patriot was not warning the British.

                      …”He didn’t warn the British,” said James Giblin, author of “The Many Rides of Paul Revere,” ABC News reported. “That’s her most obvious blooper.”

                      “Revere’s assignment that night was to go to Lexington to warn Samuel Adams and John Hancock that British troops were moving in that direction from Boston,” said Kristin Peszka, director of interpretation and visitor’s services at the Paul Revere House, which Palin visited Thursday before relating the Revere story.

                      Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US

                      So remind me, which

                      major newspapers, scholars, and historians are agreeing with Palin.

                    2. Boston Herald (“Experts back Sarah Palin’s historical account”):

                      http://www.bostonherald.com/ne

                      LA Times:

                      http://latimesblogs.latimes.co

                      NPR (interview w/ chair of Dept. of History at Suffolk University):

                      http://www.npr.org/2011/06/06/

                      Washington Times:

                      http://www.washingtontimes.com

                      Also you left out the rest of the article:

                      “It was an extremely complicated situation which she sort of regurgitated in a garbled way,” Boston University’s Brendan McConville said. “It has been, as an American history professor, disconcerting to realize that no one seems to know what happened in this iconic event.”

                      You can see that McConville is contorting his words to avoid saying Palin was right, but that’s basically what he’s admitting by saying it was “extremely complicated”. The fact that he now realizes how no one seems to know what happened in that event is precisely the reason Palin went on the tour – Americans need to relearn their history.

                      Anything else?  

                    3. from your own (Boston Herald) link

                      Patrick Leehey of the Paul Revere House said Revere was probably bluffing his British captors, but reluctantly conceded that it could be construed as Revere warning the British.

                      “I suppose you could say that,” Leehey said. “But I don’t know if that’s really what Mrs. Palin was referring to.”

                      McConville said he also is not convinced that Palin’s remarks reflect scholarship.

                      “I would call her lucky in her comments,” McConville said.

                      The headline might suggest your claim, on its face, the article–not so much.



                      LA Times
                      link–not a historian or scholar (or the paper itself for that matter) but a conservative opinion writer.

                      NEXT-

                      The moony paper, not even in print any more (now online only…really, a major paper?  And its also an opinion column).

                      Dude, you are so bad at what you do its beyond laughable.  

                    4. Particularly when these comments come with titles like “you fell for it.” I think beej really thinks he has something.

                    5. in his own mind.  Is it clinical?  I can’t tell.  But it seems constitutive.  

                    6. http://bit.ly/lpg3Zc

                      I’m glad to keep talking about it, because the longer we talk, the more foolish you (as in the left) looks. Not to yourselves, of course, but to the wider world.

                    7. Hahahahahahaha. Ah, good one, buddy. You never cease to make fun of yourself and that’s an admirable quality. And it saves the rest of us a load of time so thanks!

                    8. She is a joke and your party deserves her to be your nominee.  

                    9. It’s more fun to watch you click on the link and pretend you know how much traffic my site gets.

                    10. … and I didn’t – MoTR was good enough to say what it was – then you don’t get any fun.

                      What a maroon you are…

                    11. I guess sometimes I see “Aristotle” and my brain automatically skips it. There isn’t usually much to respond to, as in the first case. In the second case, Go Raiders is hardly beloved by this site.

                    12. You asked, “Name one righty who hasn’t been dismissed on this site.”

                      I did. Now you want to weasel out of it. Typical…

                      Your insult would be witty if it weren’t a desperate lie. You spend too much time answering me – until you paint yourself in a corner, as you did in both of these examples, and then you bail, like you did after the November election – for that to EVER be believable.

                      (Prediction – now you’re going to go out of your way avoiding answering my posts, for a little while at least.)

                    13. Just your sheer ignorance on display. Please don’t mistake apathy for avoidance.

                    14. Everybody knows that’s not true. And it’s a sin to bear false witness.

                      It’s sad how childish you are, too. I’m a dad and I recognize the pattern – deny that you did something wrong, then suddenly start justifying your actions.

                      You lost your little challenge. Conservatives are welcome here – so long as they have brains and respect.

                    15. At night, before they’re about to go to bed, do you tell them horror stories about the evil GOP who wants to “fit the government in [their] vagina”? Some dad.

                    16. First of all, this thread is weeks old, so go find something current to talk about.

                      Secondly, with few exceptions people on this blog don’t go after families. You shouldn’t either.

                    17. I think since BJ called Aristotle a bad father, Ari clearly belongs in the penalty box.

                    18. You’re going to penalty box me for what Aristotle put in his byline? Too funny. How about anyone who as ever misrepresented my screen name be thrown in the penalty box? Geez, half of you would be in there according to your standards.

                    19. Cause I don’t have the privilege of a ban button. And if I did, there’d be better reasons. But actually, it looks like I was recalling sxp’s boxing wrong. He was boxed after responding to someone else calling him a bad father, not for calling someone a bad father. Apologies to the guvs. Though I do think that your vulgar insinuation was out of line, and more so than what sxp actually did.

                    20. You won’t find anything to box me for that hasn’t been topped by a large amount of posters here though. FTR re the other thread, I hadn’t seen this comment.

                    21. so I speak from experience, but going after families is low even for you. Throw your juvenile names around as much as you want, but lay off Ari’s kids.

                    22. I assume kids are fair game now? Or would you rather just accept the mantle of hypocrite?

                    23. Someday you’ll have kids and then you’ll be less insensitive. Darn my inability to curse right now.

                    24. that supports that assertion. But, hey, feel free to post the proof. I won’t hold my breath.

                    25. Classy. Did you ask if Jesus would do that before you posted this?

                      They’re a bit too young for politics now, but they will learn about conservative hypocrisy when they’re old enough to understand. You’ll serve as a great example. (And we know you’ll still be around.)

                    26. is not offensive when it’s bashing proponents of limited government, but a grave crime when your behavior is mentioned to your kids? I think we know where the hypocrisy is coming from.

                    27. without mentioning kids. The same way you can say whatever you want about Bill Clinton or George W. Bush but going after their daughters (especially when they’re still kids) is considered classless.

                      How could this possibly be hard to understand? It’s an almost universally acknowledged rule in politics.

                    28. That explains a lot about where you’re coming from.

                      See, beej, “vagina” is a proper word describing that portion of the female anatomy which distinguishes females from males. And the GOP, ruled as it is by men who’d rather that women were still considered property outright by law, support policies that regulate what women can and can not do with their bodies. Hence, Mr. Savage’s dry comment regarding the GOP’s stated intention to “shrink government” which is juxtaposed with this actual goal of theirs.

                      Just because a person with a Victorian mentality such as yours finds it offensive, doesn’t make it actually offensive.

                      So, would you like to apologize now for bringing my family into it? Or should I notify the govs?

                    29. He may have gotten that from me. I felt that it was crass and vulgar to accuse you of making dirty jokes directed at your child. Just for the record, I do not have a Victorian mentality, and Beej’s choice of words may have been my bad.

                    30. His comment came @ 15:02, and yours came @ 15:07. But even if yours came first, he’s responsible for his own word choices. He claims to have honored in “letters,” whatever that means.

                    31. You’re the one that brought up vaginas in the first place, in a very crass and insulting way to conservatives. So you might take a look in the mirror before you get yourself banned.

                    32. If you don’t like what Ari has to say, please inform your conservative brethren that other people’s vaginas are none of their business. In other words:  

                    33. I better dang well see a voter registration card with a D on it before anything happens.  

                    34. the “sexy penis” guy, that’s hilarious!

                      I haven’t sent them any email, but your time away shows that you were worried about it. You’re as brave as you are classy.

                    35. … I almost forgot. I have to tell you that my last sentence there is sarcastic. Based on past experiences, I’ve concluded that you’re so full of yourself that you take such remarks at face value.

            1. The park service people are very competent and know their history, at least as it relates to what they tell people on tours. Likewise, Palin know her history. It has been very entertaining watching the left make fools of themselves on this. This is precisely why such a tour was need – to educate the American public on the history of our founding, which many are sadly ignorant of. Moreso those on the left.

                1. He was on horseback, riding through the streets. But he was rousing the public to ring the bells and fire the warning shots. I don’t think you seriously mean to imply that Palin thought Revere was running up all the church steeples, one by one, to ring their bells. Also, when captured by the British, he told them that the colonists were ready to meet them and defend their supplies of ammunition.

                  1. John Hancock and Adams that the British were coming to arrest them and that they were about to capture the armories. But don’t let facts get in the way of a good poem…or Sarah Palin’s version of colonial life.  

                    1. I thought Palin messed up because really Revere was riding through the streets saying “the British are coming, the British are coming!” (Actually it was “the regulars” as the colonists were at that time British, but of course the media gets a free pass on that one for some reason.) Revere was not merely trying to save Hancock (did he have problems with prostitutes too?) and Adams, he was rousing the entire countryside to defend their ammunition from the British army.

                    2. with numerous errors-

                      1) riding through town (riding out of actually)

                      2) ringing those bells, firing warning shots (actually he was trying to get somewhere to warn colonists there…on the sly)

                      3) not gonna take our arms (not really)

                      4) warning the British (not his mission)

                      etc. etc. etc. etc.

                      So, which major newspapers, historians and scholars agree with her account again?  I posted my link, post yours (and, no, conservative columnists don’t count. You said ‘major newspapers’ ‘historians’ and ‘scholars.’)

                      Pony up the goods, little one, or I’ll just accept it as an overt admission that–once again–you are simply wrong.  

                    3. 1) Unless he started exactly on the edge of the town, riding out of it also involved riding through it.

                      2) As I explained earlier, the colonists were the ones ringing the bells and firing the shots. This is well documented, see my earlier post. However, they would not have done these things had they not been warned by Revere that the regulars were coming.

                      3) Hello, the whole entire thing was about defending their supply of ammunition.

                      4) So what if it wasn’t his mission? He was captured by the British and he warned them. This, too, is well documented (see earlier post). I just posted about the major newspapers, historians, and scholars, and you got PWN’d.

                    4. and an article that did not support your claims. Still waiting on the historians, major papers and scholars.  

                    5. Can you read? Or do you not consider the papers and historians I listed to be “major”? Seriously, stop digging.

  2. Mitt Romney 48 18.53%

    Sarah Palin 27 10.42%

    Tim Pawlenty 25 7.72%

    Rick Perry 20 7.72%

    Um, no:

     *If Pawlenty had 25 votes while Perry had 20, they can’t both have 7.72%!

     *Romney got just under double Pawlenty’s votes, yet more than double his percent?

     *If Pawlenty’s 25 votes was 7.72%, then mathematically, Palin getting 27 votes couldn’t possibly be 10.42%.

    Something is deeply wrong with your numbers.

  3. submitted a write-in vote for El Paso’s own persecuted tax-criminal Doug Bruce?

    An outrage!!!

    Well, at least someone voted for John Suthers. Heh.

  4. I just love that Bill Cadman wrote himself in. Not because he believes he could win or that he ever plans to run, but because he would write himself in just to screw with the math.

  5. Not even Romney, with his strong CO Mormon contingency, can garner 20% of the vote among all potential candidates.  I keep coming back to four years ago when the Dems were passionately behind at least six credible candidates: Obama, Clinton, Edwards, Richardson, Biden, Dodd.

    This is what happens when you have no coherent political philosophy — you’re left with demagogues that wither under the first inkling of a spotlight.

      1. When I went to Council Bluffs, Iowa to help with the Obama campaign just before Christmas, 2007 there were a lot of Dodd signs.  He was a big favorite of firefighters, I think.

  6. though presumably the national GOP would send him enough advisors to not look quite so foolish on a national stage, and at least, you know, revamp his website with some skilled writing and remove phrases like “after his job at Burger King…”

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