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February 27, 2012 04:32 PM UTC

Monday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Every man can see things far off, but is blind to what is near.”

–Sophocles

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37 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. mention anything about milk prices?  Pork bellies?  Hard, red winter wheat?  Pinto beans?

    Your little heart just doesn’t seem to be in it these days.  Hell ‘Tad, if you’re not up to the task anymore, you might as well just stay in bed . . .

      1. every bean farmer worth his tiller knows it’s the Nebraska panhandle that produces the best pintos and great northerns . .  . (hell, they gotta do one thing right in that god-forsaken backwater . . . )

        But thanks for the farm-price report — that, the school lunch menu, and “The Ish Schmidt Show” were the staples of my childhood radio listening — ‘Tad’s daily broadcasts don’t even begin to match those that radio KOLT used to provide.  

    1. and all possible steps are being taken to follow up with the corrected form including the signature line then I think it would still be just an error, not a criminal offense.  They would not be keeping someone like Brophy’s jokester cousin company in prison.  

    2. any law like that would probably be selectively enforced. Anyhow, the worst offenses tend to be so anonymously sourced that law enforcement wouldn’t be able to make a case– except of course when it’s politically helpful to smear the other party as mudslingers.

  2. The Dis-United States of Gas Prices: Why Fuel Is So Cheap in Denver

    Thanks to America’s overwhelmed oil pipelines, some lucky drivers in the Rockies are getting a big discount on gas.

    Right now, the United States has a big glut of crude oil sitting in the middle of the country, and no easy way to move it. The combination of surging production from Canada’s tar sands and North Dakota’s Bakken region has overwhelmed the existing pipelines to the Gulf of Mexico, where it would ordinarily be refined and shipped onto the global market. As a result, the price of American and Canadian crude oil is trading at a steep discount to varieties from elsewhere in the world. After all, with fewer potential customers, oil buyers can dictate friendlier prices.

    and for fuxsake ‘turd get a map — it’s Bel Air and La Jolla, CA.  Yer homeskoolin’ is showing again (sorry, I’m all kinda Obama snobbish showing off my college degree).  

    1. What your quote doesn’t address is that the US is currently exporting gasoline – i.e. exporting more gasoline than it imports. Therefore, we could increase the supply – and thereby reduce the price – by merely prohibiting the export of the gasoline that we produce.

      Then, we could listen to the oil companies scream.

      1. producing gasoline very cheaply which is, ironically, making our gasoline very attractive over seas where costs to produce are much higher and the increased foreign demand for our cheap gas is driving the price up.  Still a good deal for them. For us, not so much.  We also have an oil glut, more drilling going on than at any time in the past eight years while many less profitable refineries are closing down.

        This pretty much takes care of every lie the right tells about how we need to get rid of Obama and his policies so we can drill more (already are and “more” isn’t generally the first solution to a glut that springs to mind) and bring gas prices, which are the fault of Obama policies (not at all), down.  They know what they’re selling is bull but it’s bull that sounds good…Drill baby drill, pithy and macho.   What does it matter if it’s also entirely irrelevant?  

        They’d have a pretty good chance of beating Obama with it, too, if they weren’t following the 2010 Colorado Governor and Senate race model of loony tunes self destruction while destroying their credibility by switching so fast they all must have whiplash from “no  new taxes”  “letting any tax sunset is a tax hike” and “tax cuts don’t cost anything  because they stimulate economic growth” to “we can’t keep the payroll tax break without finding a way to pay for it” when the people with the extra economy stimulating money in their pockets are just going to be ordinary Americans.  

        And the grownups also know that returning to the fifties with attacks on birth control and draconian laws forcing women to submit to being force fed propaganda and invasive procedures is a loser but it’s all getting away from them.  Dems are idiots if they don’t take control of the message and explain, among other things on all fronts, how the whole gas thing really works.  It’s easy enough to explain in short words and sentence, after all. Rs would have no trouble distilling and selling such a simple message. They manage to do it even with messages that aren’t so much as vaguely true. Dems should be able to figure out how to sell a message that is true.

          1. I’ll give you one link to start but there are a bunch:

            Looking at your heating bills or gas prices, you may find it surprising that the United States is enjoying a mini oil boom. It’s producing more crude oil and, for the first time in decades, has become a net exporter of petroleum products such as jet fuel, heating oil and gasoline. (my emphasis)

            http://www.usatoday.com/money/

              1. We’re talking about refined products but the bottom line is that if “Drill baby drill” is the answer for bringing down prices then prices should be down since we are doing just that.  In spite of rightie propaganda to the contrary, drilling is up under the Obama administration, not down. That’s not something that should be too complicated for Dems to explain.

                Dems need to do a better job of aggressively getting very easy to understand messages like this out there.  The solutions proposed by the right are simply and demonstrably ridiculous in the face of real world facts.

                Instead of focusing on begging the public not to think they’re anti-business,  socialists or enemies of the prosperous, all defensiveness messages, they should focus on pointing out the obvious, blatant, easy to understand falsehoods that riddle the entire empty, discredited by reality rightie message.  And I do think we are finally seeing some of that.  We need to see more.

  3. …according to Durango Herald ( http://www.durangoherald.com/a… )

    Not everything of interest occurs in the confines of the voting booth, or on the floor of the state legislature.

    I feel confident that pols running for office, especially Republicans from certain primitive areas of the state (and would-be presidential nominees nationally) are well aware of the general sentiments leading to this phenomenon, and take them into account in formulating their statements, proposals, and votes. This helps explain the incoherence of so many Republican statements…they feel they cannot be candid and must resort to indirection. The “birther” movement is the most obvious example, alongside the “USA is Christian” and the anti-social-welfare threads.

    Tribalism sparked by demographic changes is a hugely important factor in U.S. politics, and should be addressed head-on.

        1. Given the current general GOP attitudes and policies towards black Presidents, Muslims, immigrants, etc., etc., I’d be damn surprised if there wasn’t a huge demand for this item among party leaders . . . at least late at night — in the privacy of their own bedrooms . . . when Calista’s feeling a little “frisky” . . . [wink, wink, nudge, nudge].

  4. Most importantly, though, the conservative passion for divisive, partisan, bomb-tossing politics is threatening to permanently cripple the Republican party. They long ago became more about pointing fingers than about ideology, and it’s finally ruining them.

    Oh, sure, your average conservative will insist his belief system is based upon a passion for the free market and limited government, but that’s mostly a cover story. Instead, the vast team-building exercise that has driven the broadcasts of people like Rush and Hannity and the talking heads on Fox for decades now has really been a kind of ongoing Quest for Orthodoxy, in which the team members congregate in front of the TV and the radio and share in the warm feeling of pointing the finger at people who aren’t as American as they are, who lack their family values, who don’t share their All-American work ethic.

    The finger-pointing game is a fun one to play, but it’s a little like drugs – you have to keep taking bigger and bigger doses in order to get the same high.

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/po

    1. The people who sent out the voter registration pieces was an arm of Women Voices, which has had a history of being sloppy with checking to make sure the forms match the legal requires of the states they are mailing them in.

      The missing oath is a research error, the missing signature line is just sloppy.

  5. 1) ANYONE can help a vet, even in the small, ordinary things and

    2) Why is it that the supposed liberal, left-leaning radio network (NPR) is doing the majority of reporting on vet issues?

    Man Gives U.S. Vets Two Things: Haircuts, And Hope

    To help U.S. troops ease back into civilian life, veteran Anthony Bravo Esparza offers them a haircut, and a safe and friendly place to hang out. Esparza – known to his friends as “Dreamer” – sees it as a way to help former soldiers find their way.

    Dreamer’s barbershop is easy to find; it’s set up inside a trailer in the parking lot of the West Los Angeles Medical Center campus of the VA Greater Los Angeles Healthcare System.

    Last year, Army vet Paul Crowley went in for a haircut. Since then, he has become Dreamer’s assistant. They sat down recently to talk about how their friendship began.

    “When I showed up, I was washed,” says Crowley, 60.

    “Yeah, you’d been drinking,” answers Dreamer, 67.

    “I was totally out of hope. And part of that was the way I looked. I hadn’t shaved in a couple of weeks; my hair was filthy and scraggly,” Crowley says. “But getting the haircut made me feel, for lack of a better word, ‘normal’ – which I hadn’t in a long, long time.”

    http://www.npr.org/2012/02/24/

    1. Mass. knows their Kennedy’s and will not be taking Brown’s word over Patrick Kennedy’s on his father’s positions, especially when to do so would require forgetting everything they ever knew about Ted Kennedy. This is a loser for Brown.  Refraining from forcing a Catholic or other morally objecting doctor to perform abortions is a far cry from allowing employers and insurers the right to deny coverage for birth control.  

      Pro-choicers have never proposed forcing a doctor who believes that abortion is morally wrong to perform them. Who would want any procedure performed under those circumstances? And does anyone think that Ted Kennedy would want to be used to endorse Brown?  Seriously? The guy is clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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