“Romney is accusing Obama of purposely slowing down the economy so as to worsen people’s economic circumstance so that they would demand health care since they were losing it because they’re getting fired. That’s what he’s saying. And that is a bold criticism. That is something that we would say and have said. But to hear a Republican presidential candidate say it, is kind of cool.”
–Rush Limbaugh

WHY WE DON’T BELIEVE IN SCIENCE
Read The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion, by Johathan Haidt, Pantheon Books, 2012.
Pissed me off. Now I have to try to understand conservatives. Once I understand liberals, that is.
In 50 years, Steve Jobs will be forgotten, Gladwell says
People haven’t forgotten Henry Ford because he was an anti-semite (one of such reknown that even Hitler was a fan).
Americans like the occasional innovative, ground-breaking and self-made visionary businessman because it’s a huge part of the American dream. And Jobs’ reputation isn’t too bad today despite his lack of philanthropy. And given all the game-changing Apple products of the last 10 years, we’re currently more in Jobs’ world than Gates’.
Gates is a much bigger philanthropist, that much is true. He seems to be trying to be a modern Carnegie, but I think his future reputation as one will be based on the success of the education reforms he’s pushing through his foundation. It seems a lot less certain of success than building libraries all over America.
Finally, proclamations about what people will think or do in the future are almost always dismally wrong. Dave, you seem to be someone who finds that stuff enthralling, but think back on the stuff you probably read in the past, esp. the things written in the 70s and 80s and ask yourself how accurate any of those predictions were.
But it is an interesting couple of points. And a lot of the people who were the founders of the PC era, in hardware, software, games, networking, etc. are all but forgotten by now. So time will tell…
Were any of them world-wide celebrities the way Jobs was? It’s true that businesses come and go, and so do consumer products. But it’s rare that a single personality comes to embody the business or the products the way Jobs did.
Still, Gladwell could have a point. Lee Iacocca isn’t exactly the historic figure today that some might have thought he’d be 30 years ago.
were the ones who either groundbreaking leaders in a brand new industry (Gates and Jobs) or visionaries who transformed their business (Jobs again). We remember many of the 19th Century industrialists* for being the former and certain early 20th Century figures for being the latter also (Edison**, Ford). Lee Iaccoca is certainly a figure to be respected and emulated, but he didn’t help create a new industry and he didn’t transform it either.
But I think you’re right. Personality plays a lot, and most of the best-remembered business leaders had it. Even though Henry J. Kaiser, shipbuilder, invented the HMO that bears his last name (and thus counts as an influential visionary), I doubt most people know his full name and wouldn’t be able to identify him if asked.
* Many became well known for their charity. Gates is definitely taking more risks
** We now know that Edison was a ruthless SOB, but so was Gates once upon a time.
Can anyone really be “forgotten” these days with the internet and wikipedia just fingertips away?
Apple has had an amazing presence in 1st, 2nd, & 3rd generation of connected Users. Apple is your phone, music, TV, internet, tablet reader, portable PC, … and they’ve been out in front leading the way or establishing a major beachhead in most media/computing innovations. Apple has a physical & tactile presence in our lives.
MS’s huge presence in desktop computing has been diminished thru open source solutions and the accepted watered-down ubiquity of their OS & applications. Innovation benefiting the end-user experience has languished. And though they’ve tried time & again with h/w they’ve pretty much failed.
Apple folks feel the envy of others while MS folks feel a shared misery and underwhelming acceptance of what must be endured. I just left a meeting where host tap danced 5 mins covering for a repeated boot up error with her Win7. Still? We’ve had to accept this for how many years??
Thru Gates Foundation, Billie & Melinda do help world health initiatives, education reform and more but there’s no amount of rubbing that will ever polish the turd that gave him his good points but wealth.
I see where Gladwell is coming from and I do believe fame & fortune is even more fleeting in today’s read/write memory environment. But there’s a helluva lot of amoral folks that burnished their dubious legacies with gifts to society. History can whitewash the transgressions and sins of benefactors so it’s always wise to question the true motives of the rich.
was when I first heard about Gates giving to charity. It seemed to be a PR move at the time – I certainly am unaware of any major giving he did before that time.
That said, given that Gates retired from MS when he could have stayed the rest of his life, and given the ambitious scope of his foundation’s work, that he’s probably quite genuine in his motives. Most charity from corporations and the wealthy are as safe and unremarkable as the industries that created that wealth in the first place, and it’s fair to question how much of it would be given if there wasn’t the payback in tax deductions.
It’s possible that Gates recognized that MS had probably run its course as a dynamic and transforming company and he wasn’t motivated to manage it anymore (especially since they really could not go back to their old ways after the antitrust suits they weathered). Maybe that’s why he stepped away and decided to focus on doing something with his truly vast wealth. It’s pretty well known that most people don’t reach any level of megawealth and decide that they have made enough money, but you do have to wonder what someone with that much feels that they can do with it. I think that’s as much of a factor in their charity as any benefits they realize from it, whether in tax deductions, personal gratification, or even their public perception, both for now and for posterity.
As Gladwell says, he was an amoral person who never had an original idea and never gave anything away.
Given that success as a CEO correlates pretty well with amorality, I’d rather see a guy like Gates or Carnegie or Rockefeller who decides late in life to try and make up for all the crap they did. Unlike Jobs whose only legacy after his death is selling a $35 biography they published the next day.
but I believe he had an original vision for those ideas, one that wouldn’t have been realized without him.
Say what you will about the man, but the “he had no ideas” meme is revisionist.
Every idea is built upon previous ideas so you can always say someone just moved things ahead a little. Jobs was superb in determining what/how to move ahead and in implementing that vision.
I don’t even know what that means. The idolizing of Jobs can get kind of silly (and I’m a Mac user).
Jobs was well known for getting his engineers to keep redesigning products until they achieved a level of simplicity and elegance that he envisioned. I hope that helps clarify that.
I’m not idolizing the man. But I’m not welcoming unfair criticisms either.
From the GUI that came from Xerox to the tablet concept that’s been around for years, Apple/Jobs was not so much a creator as a re-packager/marketer.
Not that there’s anything wrong with being a repackager, just, hey, let’s be honest and accurate. Less the creative genius, moreso a copier.
Steve jobs had any number of tags in the MSDM. He was paranoid, a control freak, and amoral. We all loved to hate Bill Gates a decade or more ago, but he is a saint compared to Mr. Jobs.
If Apple, the corporation, becomes a better world citizen, I’m open to that. But as of now, “Anything but Apple.”
Obama Campaign Admits Fundraising Defeat In May
At these levels, the total doesn’t really matter. Ask Queen Meg and iCarly in California. At some point, enough is enough.
Same old, same old. Similar patterns in previous election cycles.
Apparently, it’s more important to suck up to one anti-tax nutjob than to take care of the 1% who fought for this nation
http://missoulian.com/news/opi…
Think this is bad? Wait until the RomneyBots get into the White House, and completely dismantle the Veteran Healthcare and disability system to keep the Millionaire Tax Cut in place…
Say What?
Romneybot 2:
“I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam.”
– Mitt Romney, 2007
Romneybot 1:
“It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam, but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft.”
– Mitt Romney, who sought and received four draft deferments, 1994
Romney is one craven, sickening, low-life, lying bastard. An aristocrat, through and through.
also known to wander the beach in La Jolla and chastise those enjoying a blunt. Bet he won’t do that after he loses and has no Secret Service detail
There are two “take aways” from Wisconsin that are very important, IMHO. Both have to do with exit polling. The first indicated that a majority of voters supported Obama over Romney. The second poll indicated that upwards of 70% of voters thought that the recall was a bad idea. Let’s look at the latter, first. Did the Wisconsin dems have any ongoing internal polling that told them that the majority were against the recall vote? If so, what was the strategy to combat that attitude? Why didn’t it work? If they did not have a clue, why not?
What I think happened, was that 500,000 voters signed the recall petition and the dems thought that the recall victory was a sure thing. So smug were they that the party had a primary fight to see who would run against Walker and win the governorship. Meantime,
The pro-Walker repubs were not at all discouraged by the initial success of the recall petition. They put their money into changing the minds of Wisconsin voters and they were successful.
So, I am not encouraged or lulled into complacency by the exit polls showing that voters still prefer Obama to Romney. All that does is help repubs target their message. They have proved that they can do that very well.
Dems did NOT learn from Massachusetts Dems did NOT learn from the 2010 elections.
Will Dems learn from Wisconsin?
http://www.miamiherald.com/201…
Sorry, dwyer. I know how any good news, even just a shred, for our side ruins your day. And I’m sure that by passing this on I’m demonstrating what a naive, cheer leading, lazy, clueless Pollyanna fool I must be and how I must be blindly defending… yadayadyada…. but there it is
I also signed the petition when the link was posted here. I am really glad to see not only that AG Holter is challenging Florida; but, also that the dems here in Colorado challenged Gessler and that our brave county clerk in Denver refused to buckle under to Gessler and his stupid edict on so-called inactive voters.
I do not like the fact, BC, that you think you have some kind of special knowledge about how I think and feel.
You do not.
The only thing about your rants is that it makes me
nostalgic for when the kids were teenagers and would
“argue” the way you do. But they are grown up now.
I am proud of their ability to discuss and reason – even when we don’t agree, which is frequently.
Just making fun of your eternal carrying on about how all Dem candidates are doomed and all the lefties here, besides brilliant worldly wise you, are too stupid, lazy and naive to notice.
So I’m not just a naive, lazy, Pollyanna who doesn’t know a thing about political realities. I’m a naive, lazy, Pollyanna who doesn’t know a thing about political realities and has a drinking problem. Got it.
Have a nice weekend, dwyer. Lord knows what that would be for you but, whatever gloomy thing it is, enjoy.
Not that you noticed I was gone
but I was in NYC the last three days, speaking at a conference for my industry. AKA my favorite thing to do in the world. Public speaking <3
Did I miss anything fun?
you could have posted
Seriously, a new media expo with no WiFi. WTF, Javits. Expo is moving next year because of that.
That’s too funny.
I would have thought everybody had a 4G phone, though.
learning to use it
I’ll Have Another has been scratched from the Belmont.
Fortunately, this one is a very valuable stud colt who will likely retire to enjoy a life of luxury and a lot of horse sex, unless (like Ferdinand) he fails to produce and is eventually sold to slaughter.
Most of the many, many, many young horses in the same situation–broken down at an age when horses not used for racing are considered too young even to ride–are not as fortunate and end their lives in a Canadian or Mexican slaughterhouse. If they’re lucky, they’re humanely euthanized by their owners instead.
Racing isn’t necessarily inhumane. Racing two and three year old horses is. The Triple Crown races are run by three-year-olds for a reason: Get the blisteringly fast horses out in front of a massive audience, let them put in their best performances in their first full year of racing, and make sure they’re either worn out or retired because they’re now too valuable to risk an injury by the end of their three-year-old spring. That means no superstars whose careers last long enough that nobody is willing to run their horses against them (like Eclipse, Exterminator, and Northern Dancer) and, more importantly, no bettors put up money against them.
Okay, done with my rant… haven’t been able to enjoy watching even the Derby since adopting my racehorse.
Was going to change it and now I’m having no luck finding your comment.
ooh, just let him keep talking! This from the boy/man CU Regent @Large candidate Arnold is a gift:
Here’s a guy I want giving input on higher ed in CO.
that silly advanced degree to feel he needed to claim he had it. Second, the old dog ate my homework excuse? Seriously?
PS I’m really having fun with the free comments I’ve accumulated. Even at a bit over the 2 a day average I’ve stayed a bit under since April 5 for the duration of the April through June period, I will come in well below the 300 and change that took last place on the top(quantity-wise)commenters list for January through March. I can even afford to tweak Dave occasionally. Whee!
There have always been data recovery services.
and this is a person ‘turd respects … go figure
Arnolds not fit for office
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Seems to me that Blaha needs to jump on this today; most ballots will be returned this week.
But is there anything there to exploit ?
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You need to sign in under your usual name, otherwise Polsters won’t go nuts and start talking about home schooling and whatnot.