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–Sun Tzu, from The Art of War
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Colorado final:
Votes 2 363 881
Obama 1,238,490 52.392%
Romney 1,125,391 47.607%
Romney over performed my model by 0.2%
President Obama won Arapahoe and Jefferson counties.
I thought he’d need 40% in ElPaso to hit my number- he got just 38. Of course, I thought Douglas County would get to the low 70’s for Romney- and he barely got to 70.
The demographic math and analysis should continue. It’s like the census – only better. We should know who we are. We should know who votes and who doesn’t- and why.
I have a friend who worked for OFA in eastern Ohio. He’s the one who first explained Pennsytucky to me. After June he was never worried, their voter reg/GOTV was just too good.
Apparently, so was Colorado’s – thank you OFA.
BTW – yes, Obama carried the Catholic vote. Again.
Some will say it’s because they just couldn’t vote for a Mormon. Some- but I doubt that’s the real math. Most latino voters self id Catholic.
I know Obama didn’t win white men over 50. Not sure which presidents have done that.
But 14% of Romney voters are likely to die before the next presidential election. 15% of potential voters in that same election were not eligible to vote in this one.
And until the R’s can explain the significance of the election of 1928, it’s no Presidents for them. (Thank the Republican God for gerrymandering!)
…Oh, wait. Moi? 🙂
Is this too simplified? If 2/3 of the OWM reliably vote Republican, and 2/3 of the younger new voters vote Democratic, that there can be a 20% shift in voter sentiments in 2016?
Please help me understand your comment about the election of 1928. I’m in the dark.
R won president – and carried Ohio, of course.
Last R Presidential victory without Nixon or a Bush on the ticket.
Huh?
The GOTP hated (s) Obama. They were convinced of their correctness and believed that ABO would win. What they don’t understand is (too much to list) that hating the incumbent is rarely enough to win.
The R’s hated FDR back when. He just kept winning.
They hated LBJ more than papa Joe- he won.
Tehy hated carter- but that’s not why Carter lost. They hated Clinton just as much (1996) and Bill won.
They hated Obama in 2008. Hated him as much or more last week.
It’s not how you win. You need a candidate to love.
I believe nationally that his total is 47.9% I saw a tweet about that.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha……
That is funny! And deliciously ironic.
http://www.teapartycommunity.com
You guys have to check this site out. They are billing they’ve as a place, like Facebook, for adults to network and socialize free from “liberal monitoring” (and pesky “facts”).
I have already created my sock puppet account. There is some pretty good comedy happening in there.
Leave it off the URL.
The only thing that I’m really getting pissed about is how cons just can’t stand to be exposed to the truth. Media critical of some of their leaders and ideas? Create their own! Wikipedia critical of some of their leaders and ideas? Create their own! Facebook expose them to people who disagree? Create their own!
It’s the opposite of adult behavior when you cover your ears, close your eyes, and scream “la la la” until what you don’t want to see and hear goes away.
Check out this picture taken at Idaho Springs.
http://silverunderground.com/2…
…and knew it was you.
You need to find less paranoid sourcing, Albert. No, I didn’t click on the link, just look at the name of it.
you know that lunchmeat boy is off on another neo-Nazi rant. Yes, the best thing to do is ignore him. Eventually, he’ll realize that Hitler is dead and move to North Korea, where they appreciate the fact that he hates America to the core of his being.
is a real picture, stay ignorant parsnips, stay ignorant.
Nock, someone needs to put you in a time machine and send to to Nazi Germany. Or matbe Argentina in 1981. THAT was a fucking police state.
You dumb fucking fuck.
Hey Ari,
Aristotle favored private property and opposed communal property; you had better change your screen name here at CPols…
Men … are easily induced to believe that in some wonderful manner everybody will become everybody’s friend, especially when some one is heard denouncing the evils now existing in states, suits about contracts, convictions for perjury, flatteries of rich men and the like, which are said to arise out of the possession of private property. These evils, however, are due to a very different cause-the wickedness of human nature. (II.1263b15)
I’m not calling myself the ancient Greek philosopher. It’s my real first name.
Okay, no it’s not my real first name. But my handle isn’t my claim to specifically be a wise philosopher. I’ve explained it several times in the past, so if you want to use more, learn how to use google advanced search and find those posts of mine.
Also, the issue of property is not so black and white as you make it. (Surprise! Nothing is black and white, except to those possessing simple minds.) Also, your quote is missing requisite quotation marks; and since it’s a complete non sequitur here, your use of it illustrates that you don’t understand it at all.
Knock.
has proclaimed it’s desire to become our 51st state, a Texas Repugnantcan has offered a perfect solution to the potential problem of redesigning our 50 star flag.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…
As a proud, though not African American, maggot (we Obama supporting maggots come in all flavors) may I just say, what a great idea. We can have Puerto Rico and keep our flag as is.
I doubt the Feds will let them go peacefully…
Treason is treason.
of treason.
You goobs don’t even know what treason is,lol…
Article 3 section 3.
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.
That’s what the southern states did to the United States of America. They levied war against the United States (who fired the first shots, Nock? The CSA.)
That nimrod in Texas is full of hot air, of course. He said that because it gives small-dick bigots like you wee little boners, but his would shrivel up like a salted slug if he actually faced an army division sent to stop his treasonous ass. As would yours.
We see right through you, paper tiger. Keep on coming back and keep on being put in your place.
This from the imbecile who said Lincoln “waged treason” against the confederacy.
Take notes, imbecile. Treason is “committed,” not waged, as in the Confederate states comitted treason by “levying war” against the United States.
War is “waged.” As in Lincoln waged war against the treasonous Confederate governments, freed the slaves, and forever enshrined himself in the hearts of all real Americans.
Nockworst, therefore, is not a real American. He’s just a piece of lunchmeat.
just a plain old grumpy white rightie Republican. Yes, Nockwurst, I’m aware that Texas won’t actually choose to or be allowed to secede. Duh.
….were not voting on an ethnic/racial basis. Right?
Don’t let the door and all the Federal dollars that Texas gets from the feds hit you on the ass on the way out.
Kind of like establishing a Liberia, for unwanted Texans.
We can call it Texonia, it can be some island in the pacific.
Okay, I know it is a joke, but it is not funny to talk about expelling people from their homes for unpatriotic talk. Let them talk and be angry and irrational. They can do it all they want because at the end of the day they are vanishingly small minority inside the group that voted Republican. Most Republicans are reasonable people, not nutjobs like Nock.
I think that Texas is dominated by a majority who would consider succession talk to be crazy nonsense, I doubt a majority of Republicans would want to leave the Union. So the question of letting Texas go is nonsensical.
That said, talk of succession is not treasonous. Talking seriously about succession is idiotic, foolish, and childish. As is talking of expelling people from their homes because they do not want to be Americans.
Look at your words. They literally look like something a Serb would write about the Bosnians.
Perhaps a sense of humor would be good for you to find. If not humor, perhaps a grip on reality. There is NO ONE that believes Texas will cease to be a part of the US. Texonia? And you are talking Serbs? I don’t see how you got there! Lol
Ah, the “I was only joking” defense. Common to rich middle aged white guys talking shit about less privileged people and apparently Whiskey Lima Juliet.
The think the notion of “Texonia,” formerly known as Devil’s Island, is a great idea as a refuge for those who hate America enough to want to leave it. Lighten up MtSherman.
You don’t have to find it funny, but that doesn’t mean that she was making light of the real suffering experienced in real expulsions.
Words have power and meaning. How many times have we liberals criticized, rightly, the putting of cross hairs over districts like that of Gabby Giffords. If when we say such things are unacceptably violent rhetoric for the right to use then we cannot hold ourselves to a different standard even when making a joke. There are some jokes, like joking about bombs (especially at airports), going up to a clock tower with a gun, or expelling people from their homes that are not acceptable.
Your reliance on invalid comparisons to illustrate your point demonstrates its weakness. WLJ’s words do not possess the meaning you say they do.
You can’t play the “joking is not a valid excuse” card when no one is joking about ethnic cleansing. At the very worst, WLJ was distasteful. Your interpretation that it’s much worse isn’t shared by anyone. And yeah, that kind of judgment IS subject to a vote.
They can make light of severing our union, but we can’t make light of shoving them out. To false-equate this with ethnic cleansing is just begging for a great big GMAFB.
MsMt: I now banish you to Texonia. Na na NA na. Next time: Passport, please.
That is correct, we cannot make light of expelling them. Not if we want to be better than the conservatives. Not if we believe what many of us say about the power of words and how some rhetoric is unacceptable in a civilized society.
Plus jokes should be, you know, funny. This was about as funny as the bar Einstein making a ‘joke’ about sending the “so-shallow-usts” to Cuba with the other un-Americans.
So, just stop being an asshole!
And, if they don’t, then we will hire “mexicans” to build the boats to ship them to Africa (which is the human homeland, after all).
I enjoy laughing at the Republican apologists continuing to spout that their only problem is not getting their “conservative” message out; and the answer for the next election is to double down. Tell them that the message is lost in the messangers hate rhetoric and they come up with all sorts of “we are not racists” spin. The maroons are racist and they are not going to change.
The Republican party is gone, the shell is filled with Birchers, KKK and foil hat wearers. I am still trying to figure out so many believed the lies and distortions of their former leader, RomneyRyan.
Ryan will be back with his freaky crap though. We need the House.
not just 51, and never less than 50.
and howabout we get Belize, Costa Rica, and a few other sunny warm climes to the mix (hell, add Cuba).
Not sure how the deep red Repugs would take to adding more stars to the stripes. They’d sure look fwd to more land & resources to pillage & exploit but they’d sure bitch & moan about adding more welfare-dependent states and fear adding huge masses more folks to the Dem voting rosters.
By what scenarios would we add another state? DC should be a very easy addition but Repugs will fight that to their dying breath. Guam or American Samoa? Dominican Republic? Never Haiti and likewise never Mexico. Let’s play and have folks list 5 likely candidates in the next 100 yrs.
OK . . .
1. Puerto Rico — obvious. Will happen sooner than later.
2. The Philippines — America will have many uses for a full-fledged state in the far East this century. I think this is also a likely obvious, for geopolitical reasons.
3. US Virgin Islands — Next most likely contender. Probably would need some kind of unexpected push like a major exploitable oil discovery.
4. Cuba — certainly not out of the realm of possibility as relations and trade normalize. Late 21st century at the very earliest.
5. Mexico — not a high probability, but the political situation there is a question mark — may become the impetus for requested military assistance or intervention. Oil, agriculture, damn fine beaches and an abundance of desirable develop-able land. A personal favorite of mine. America needs a better tail than Florida IMHO.
then labor would be more expensive for oligarchs.
Though I’m generally in favor of DR becoming a state I do not have a good reason. Do we then, by default get stuck with Haiti as well? Would that be a good thing? It would certainly be expensive
ugh.
Too many people think the country is covered in ice, for some reason, even though it’s a hip tourist destination. Well, I say we re-brand them the United States of America by making them a state.
1. Puerto Rico – what are we waiting for?
2. DC – see 1.
3. Baja,
4. Sonora,
5 Sinaloa or Chihuahua
3 & 4 were both supposed to be part of the Treay 1852 until Knox got bought off. (perhaps he was drunk – either way there was no excuse.)
And 5 because it’s the only way to stabilize the border.
Panama
And as long as we’re partitioning Mexico: Vera Cruz.
And all of the above, with D.C. being first on the list.
(Wow, we’re a bunch of imperialistic pigs, no?)
Or oaths defending the state and federal constitution.
I no longer say the Pledge of Allegiance, part of my Quaker time seeing things with new eyes. My nation, my government does not get unquestioning loyalty, which is what the plegdge states.
I just misplaced a comment I meant to put under your post about Hick on the DeGette thread. We should check our horoscopes.
and road conditions I’m not going to be able to join you at Rosa Linda’s
JUST KIDDING!
It’s official two hours ago, it’s Obama’s.
50 to 49.1 percents. Outside of the range of mandatory recount, about 74,000 votes.
http://politics.heraldtribune….
Just wait until 2016! We’ll be last in line again.
Allen West is done
for him to get that close?
after redistricting to one he thought more favorable. Result: 2 new Dem Representatives!
Governed by consent or by force?
If the States joined the union voluntarily, shall they not be allowed to exit peacefully?
What state today is seriously talking of exiting the Union? Point to real data that more than half the population of a state no longer wish to be part of the union and I will take this up as a serious point of debate. Not a few representatives who are disgruntled about losing the game and wish to take their marbles and leave, the people of the state.
who “studied” the Civil War and believes the South was right. Since his values suffered as much of a defeat in this last election as the GOP*, he’s engaging in the fantasy of refighting it because it’s his only solace as of right now.
* He claims to be some kinds of anti-Republican libertarian. I’m not sure if he means he’s a member of the Libertarian Party. BlueCat thinks that’s bs and that he really is a Republican. Whatever the truth, since the GOP was flying the flag of the views he routinely espouses, he lost, whether he voted GOP or not.
Maybe six months ago NPR had a skit that was done dead pan serious, discussing the effects of the “recent” Texas secession.
Secretary of State Kinky Friedman said that the first priority is to export Texas’ Big Hair Technology.
An average Texan complained how long a fun trip to New Orleans now took with border crossings both ways.
There were observations about how Texans were suddenly having to pay for things that had come from Washington. Oh, you know, defense, school lunches, postal service, research support, and on and on.
In fact, Texas would have to increase taxes because like all blowhard states, they receive more in funding and services than they send to Washington.
http://www.politifact.com/texa…
http://www.npr.org/2012/03/30/…
Check out this Russia Today story in which famous actor Gerard Depardieu is fleeing France because France has enacted a 75% top tier tax rate.
You can raise tax rates all you want but it will not generate more revenue and often less. People will move or stop producing.
Noboby wants to be a slave, not even white people.
http://rt.com/art-and-culture/…
Right after I wash my socks in the cats’ water dish. See you later.
Keep up the good work.
Sorry you couldn’t make the meetup today. You would have had fun.
because WE want to enact a 75% tax rate!
Oh, wait. No, we don’t. We’re light years away from that.
Moron.
Look CPolsters,
Everybody but you slavery deniers knows what is going on.
You were given a specific task, to source your “50% of Americans are on the dole” claim.
Again, like the grumpy, whining, older white entitlement receiving hater of people on entitlements, you’ve thrown out a fantastic claim you probably got from Drudge.
Now you gleefully paste this Kudlow clip, seemingly delighted that these frauds are blaming anything bad that might happen on President Obama.
Do you not realize your entitlements will get jerked if everyone on them loses theirs?
Or do you just hate America because your President……….our President……….is not completely white?
Give you credit though. Unlike diapertad and the other pinkos, you keep coming back.
Having said that, do the work…..for once…source your claim.
How did it go? Sorry, I had to go work at my middle class union job. 😉
Sorry you had to work. Here’s the update:
http://www.coloradopols.com/sh…
Guess I missed the post…..
It’s so satisfying to see both the big money of today’s would be gilded age robber barons and their party’s strategy of holding back the demographic tide with voter suppression so decisively defeated. On the astounding backfiring of the nationwide, highly organized, stupendously well funded Republican voter suppression drive, this from Ari Berman of “The Nation:
break
http://www.thenation.com/blog/…
Also gratifying: The youth vote didn’t fade away. They too came out even stronger than in 2008 and still went Dem. Looks like they aren’t defaulting to lazy about voting in presidential elections even if the dramatic thrill of 2008 has waned. Midterms get lower turn out in general, not just among youth and minorities, so perhaps the GOP pinned too much hope on the 2010 election in configuring it’s “adjusted” likely voter models. Maybe grumpy old Republican white voters just tend to be over-represented in midterms. Dems definitely need to work harder on that.
Still, it’s Veteran’s Day and the People whose rights they all fought to defend have triumphed over the onslaught of money and suppression, the greatest democratically elected Republic on earth is alive and kicking.
In the fashion of much of the GOP — keeping the delusions alive:
In other words — restating the 47% nonsense that even Romney tried to walk back.
But he does recognize that the social conservatives’ habit of extreme intolerance might have contributed just a bit too:
He leaves his compatriots with this bit of advice:
But wait, I thought the GOP base was energized? Didn’t we hear endless assertions from the GOP that it was the Democratic voters suffering from lethargy and disillusionment?
George Will should consider retirement, along with just about any GOP strategist over the age of 50. Even Josh Penry’s column in the Post today was better written and made more sense as a road map to the party’s recovery.
I’ve got one word for the Republicans…..comprende’?
allowed the actual Democratic Party to sneak up behind them and whup their asses.
Even Bill Kristol is throwing in the towel:
…to the men and women who have served in the military to help make possible this voting despite all the efforts at disenfranchisement. And to the men and women who stood in line and refused to be cowed.
Pubs, it’s called “blow back.”
Who should be the Democratic candidates for President and Vice President in 2016?
And I’m thinking of switching parties anyway…
I know- it would be better to see the GOTP splinter and fade first, but….