Thanksgiving Weekend Open Thread

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  1. Gray in Mountains says:

    just finished getting bird ready for oven

  2. Gray in Mountains says:

    at least 50 species of birds. Banana grown in yard. Small and tasty. Green ones are very hard.

  3. parsingreality says:

    The weekends are bad enough!

  4. dwyer says:

    I am one of those who still flinches when the digital clock reads 11.22  

    Here is a link about another 11.22.63.


  5. GalapagoLarryGalapagoLarry says:

    Hope you’re surrounded by family or friends or fond memories. Or all of the above.

    I’m going out to dinner with some neighborhood (D) activists, where we’ll plot to–what else, Pinky–take over the world!

  6. AristotleAristotle says:

    I’ll be spending it trying to avoid the endless Xmas commercials, of which my tolerance has been greatly reduced by the campaign ads.

  7. bullshit!bullshit! says:

    I’m making vegetarian turkey. We’ll have regular turkey too but I’m in charge of the fake stuff.

  8. Gorky PulviczekG Pulviczek says:

    Seems like it would be a good opportunity to take coffee and donuts to the strikers.

  9. BlueCat says:

    a beautiful Thanksgiving.  Events kind of conspired against my extended family and old friends again this year but we still managed to share some great food and greater memories. Hope you all did the same.

  10. BlueCat says:

    that their economic model will lift all boats, that the rich already pay too much, that raising the tax rates slightly from a decades worth of historic lows, will stifle the economy because they are the job creators, never mind the Bush tax cuts have had plenty of time to bring us those jobs and nothing of the kind ever happened, tell them, once and for all, if they aren’t among the corporate elite themselves they are falling for lies.  If they are they are liars. There is only only one  motivation for contemporary conservative economic policy.  Sheer, naked, unadulterated elitist, oligarchic greed:

    WASHINGTON — The corporate CEOs who have made a high-profile foray into deficit negotiations have themselves been substantially responsible for the size of the deficit they now want closed.

    The companies represented by executives working with the Campaign To Fix The Debt have received trillions in federal war contracts, subsidies and bailouts, as well as specialized tax breaks and loopholes that virtually eliminate the companies’ tax bills.

    The CEOs are part of a campaign run by the Peter Peterson-backed Center for a Responsible Federal Budget, which plans to spend at least $30 million pushing for a deficit reduction deal in the lame-duck session and beyond.

    During the past few days, CEOs belonging to what the campaign calls its CEO Fiscal Leadership Council — most visibly, Goldman Sachs’ Lloyd Blankfein and Honeywell’s David Cote — have barnstormed the media, making the case that the only way to cut the deficit is to severely scale back social safety-net programs — Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security — which would disproportionately impact the poor and the elderly.

    As part of their push, they are advocating a “territorial tax system” that would exempt their companies’ foreign profits from taxation, netting them about $134 billion in tax savings, according to a new report from the Institute for Policy Studies titled “The CEO Campaign to ‘Fix’ the Debt: A Trojan Horse for Massive Corporate Tax Breaks” — money that could help pay off the federal budget deficit.

    Yet the CEOs are not offering to forgo federal money or pay a higher tax rate, on their personal income or corporate profits. Instead, council recommendations include cutting “entitlement” programs, as well as what they call “low-priority spending.”

    Every single American who isn’t in their class and who ever votes for any Republican for any reason in any election is a pathetic dupe.

  11. parsingreality says:

    You’re in China, right?  

  12. parsingreality says:

    Where’s that Delete Comment button?  

  13. parsingreality says:

    ….”burro” bananas.  I have no idea why.

    I find them somewhat less sweet or soft as the store bought ones.  I like them.  

  14. PitaPita says:

    Happy Thanksgiving, David.  And to each and everyone of you have a great turkey day wherever you are.  

  15. Duke Coxdukeco1 says:

    Don’t you think it is about time to change that sig line?  :)

  16. Diogenesdemar says:

    or not to fu? . . . that is the question.

    Happy Thanksgiving all!  We’re having an “interesting” celebration at Casa DeMar today . . . a good story for another time, . . . perhaps in a year or twenty, when I can laugh about it.

  17. GalapagoLarryGalapagoLarry says:

    Where’d you find the vegetarian?    :)

  18. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    I already knew that Obama knows how to win elections. I’m still waiting to see if he’s finally learned how to govern well.

  19. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    And you are right, an update was indicated. So it is now updated :)

  20. Duke Coxdukeco1 says:

    That’s a step in the right direction…. :)

  21. ColPhacts says:

    This Black Friday, Walmart workers are taking action in support of improved working conditions and fair full-time schedules. “Making Change at Walmart,” which is organizing the demonstrations, is a campaign affiliated with the United Food and Commercial Workers (UFCW) union. Here in Colorado, there’s a great opportunity to show your support! Can you take a couple of hours on Friday morning to show up in support of Wal Mart workers?


    Colfax Avenue & Wadsworth Boulevard Lakewood, CO

    WHEN: 8AM – 10AM Friday, November 23, 2012

    Please contact Alain Tshimanga or Julie Gonzales at (303) 425-0897 x306 to confirm your commitment to volunteer to support Walmart associates. Go to… to sign up! The action will protest Walmart’s continued retaliation against employees fighting for better conditions, and advocate for improved working conditions and fair working schedules.

    For more information about Black Friday events, go to, and check out the #walmartstrikers hashtag on Twitter.

    Thanks for standing up this Black Friday–not just for Wal Mart workers, but for respect and fairness in every workplace.


    Joanne Schwartz

  22. parsingreality says:

    That is the answer.

  23. Libertad 2.0 says:

    This is the second or third spam post like this in the open thread.

  24. Gorky PulviczekG Pulviczek says:

    I’m out of state myself today but I’ll see if I can find some employees nearby to support.

  25. dwyer says:

    This is the 49th Anniversary of the Kennedy assassination in Dallas.  The link is to an article about

    the last day in Dallas.

    For those of us who were young adults and working in Kennedy enterprises, it is our day of Infamy. Hence the post.

  26. PERA hopeful says:

    Miss Harris’s class at Alma Schrader elementary school in Cape Girardeau, Mo.  The principal came to the door and spoke quietly to the teacher.  She told us, “The president has been shot by a sniper. Who knows what a sniper is?”  Joel Greer, the smartest kid in the class, raised his hand and defined sniper.  Then they let us out early.

  27. Gray in Mountains says:

    I read recently about bananas (I was bored). The old cartoons that illustrated slippery banana peels were actually very accurate. Those bananas may now be extinct. In our quest for foods that sell better we really do harm. While these “small” bananas are not as sweet and ripen very fast once it begins to happen, they are still very good even 3 days after harvest. Those on the plant that are still green may be ripe by the time I have made it through the first batch. So, these that I’m enjoying now would never make it in the time it takes to ship. But, as we try to become locovores and these are not extinct I think folks ought be encouraged to grow them where they can contribute locally to nutrition and culture. Today I am going to dry those remaining and see if they dry as effectively and attractively as what one gets at their local Whole Paycheck store.

    I don’t even like bananas. Rules to be broken. Wonder if I’ll like khat. I’m going to look for some in the remainder of this T’day weekend.

  28. parsingreality says:

    A friend’s banana plant dropped a big stem of green bananas during a storm. Over almost a month, they continued to ripen and we continued to eat them.  

    I saw a picture once of the banana’s probable ancestor.  Nothing but seeds within some pulp.  Now, they still have the seeds, but they are so tiny it doesn’t matter.

    Sarasota, here, is definitely about the northernmost, coastal point for bananas.  I know that coconuts won’t grow more north than Tampa, fifty miles north of here.  Maybe ‘nanas are about the same.  

  29. parsingreality says:

    It was to be our high school homecoming and it was the birthday of a hot girl I was hanging out with, Marcia Vahlberg.  

    Man, did Oswald ever mess that day up……

    I took a bunch of photos of the old school as it was being turned over to the Ringling College of Art and Design for a museum about four years ago.  And, one, of course, of where some friends and I were when we got the word about Kennedy.

    (No A/C in those days. What wusses now!)

  30. AristotleAristotle says:

    Because we didn’t respond?

  31. Diogenesdemar says:

    I was in Kindergarten. I do remember being let out early, and walking home to find my mother crying because “we may be headed for war.”

    I think that’s one of the things we’ve likely lost to history — the sense of overwhelming national dread — at the height of The Cold War, less than one generation removed from WWII (My mom lost two of her brothers in that), only one year post-Cuban Missile Crisis, bomb-shelter-constructing-suburban-neighborhoods, duck-and-kiss-your-ass-goodbye drills and PSAs — on that day, no one knew what this meant for certain.  Was this the literal first shot in the next final World War?  Nowadays we remember only the terrible loss of an assassinated President; on that day in 1963 the terrible losses running through the minds of Americans were many and very terrible indeed.

  32. Gray in Mountains says:

    But, wierdly I was not in school. I was pretending to have laryngitis that week to see how long I could go without speaking. 11/22 was day 6. I was listening to a small transistor radio and heard Brinkley. Went downstairs and my mother was crying in front of the TV where her stories had been interrupted. She was crying. I continued with the laryngitis through the killing of Oswald and the burial of JFK. Just listening, watching a small B&W Monkey Ward Airliner TV. My dad was in Navy and we were living at Great Lakes. He was allowed to come home that evening. War was a concern of everyone we knew. Some of you likely remember that there was a paranoid meme that floated immediately that the Russians were behind the assasination. That meme was reinforced within days when it became known that Oswald had lived in the USSR.

    One day I am going to do another very long word fast. You learn a lot when you are observant

  33. fatboy says:

    Remember a lot of that weekend because we were glued to the TV and my birthday was that weekend.  We too got let out of school early back in Kalamazoo, MI.

  34. Diogenesdemar says:

    all weekend we’ll be seeing that same pathetic flock of motley turkeys at the top of this page.  It’s like Halloween, only much more frightening.  

  35. BlueCat says:

    and remember it vividly. Our teacher happened to be Catholic and so proud of the first Catholic president.  She had been educated throughout her school years at Catholic grade schools, HS and college. It was especially heartbreaking to see her so devastated. As if it wasn’t heartbreaking enough.

  36. Gray in Mountains says:

    I would bet $100 you know one of my very good friends. Don Wilkinson

  37. Duke Coxdukeco1 says:

    it was 6th or 7th grade at Trapp elementary near Winchester, Kentucky, but I remember the hullabaloo it created. I was too young and self-possessed to really understand the larger ramifications of the act, but completely caught up in the history of the moment. They let us out of school…my parents and the teachers were terribly distraught…even Walter Cronkite had a hard time keeping it together.

  38. BlueCat says:

    but in light of Dems keeping the White House, blocking McConnell from achieving his top and pretty much only priority of making Obama a one term president coupled with electing a GOP majority to the Senate and Dems gaining 8 House seats, I hope you will be able to accept that the rightie media is not the all powerful hegemony that you’ve been assuming it to be.  You can afford to give yourself a break and stop subjecting yourself to quite so much of it.

    Every day more of their audience dies and new young voters turn 18, including 50 thousand Latinos a month. Please allow yourself and others to be a taste less pessimistic.

    Those of us who were cautiously optimistic erred mainly in being too cautious, not too optimistic, because we gave the rightie  media too much credit, not too little.

    Rush may be King of the grumpiest old men but it’s been a long time since he’s been able to influence the important primaries or elections in spite of dominating talk radio.

    While many obstacles remain, including the difficulty of dislodging the GOP House majority that resulted from the GOP surge and mass gerrymandering, a lot has been gained that would have been lost. The Dream Act won’t be vetoed, the Supreme Court won’t become more far right, the positive aspects of health care reform won’t be reversed, social security will not be privatized and more and more important GOP voices are beginning to try to walk back the set in stone nature of the no tax raise promise.  

    I sincerely hope that the outcome of the election contributed to a very Happy Thanksgiving for you and your family, Dwyer.

  39. GalapagoLarryGalapagoLarry says:

    Halloween and Groundhog Day.

  40. thiokuutoo says:

    I read somewhere that the first talking to by Romney made him understand that he needed to brass up.  The sad part of the article was he sees that he should start in the middle instead of giving up before starting to talk to bohener.

  41. Diogenesdemar says:

    “Low-priority spending” . . . Any governmental spending that does not solely, immediately, and directly flow into your pocketbook.  See also “Entitlements,” “Social Welfare,” and “Undeserved Charity.”

  42. PERA hopeful says:

    But as you can tell, I’m at the age where memory is unreliable.

  43. PERA hopeful says:

    I do remember that Miss Harris’s first name was Wilma.

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