A Whole New Colorado Pols Is Coming…

For eight years, Colorado Pols has set the standard in this state as the most widely read and discussed blog devoted to coverage of Colorado politics. Almost 19,000 blog posts and nearly 500,000 comments later, this site has become an invaluable property for news and opinion about our state’s politics, and the collective wisdom of our authors and community members has become a trusted institution all by itself.

In January of 2013, we’re making major upgrades. We’ve been working for months on a complete redesign of Colorado Pols, and migration to a new software platform. For users, this will mean an enhanced experience, and far better organization of content. You’ll retain your same usernames and passwords once the conversion is complete. Front-page editors will still promote posts to the home page. Over time, we hope to roll out exciting new features, but in the meantime we’ve worked hard to preserve the community you’ve spent years inhabiting.

Best of all, this is a work in progress, and puts us in a position to be better responsive to requests from readers for future improvements. Use this space to freely discuss the types of features you’d like to see in an ideal Colorado political blog, and we’ll see what we can do.

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  1. Diogenesdemar says:

    electrical shocks — anonymously, of course — to certain commenters?

    (If you’re concerned about abuse, you could ration us to one or two a day . . . )

  2. Gray in Mountains says:

    these “upgrades” always leave me confused, bewildered and frustrated

  3. harrydobyharrydoby says:

    That way readability is improved by keeping replies at the same level closer together instead of getting pushed down from intervening nested comments.

    And we could open the can of worms around user ratings.  

  4. parsingreality says:

    It seems that about as soon as I get comfortable with eBay’s latest format, or my banks, they up and “improve” it. It almost always means, if nothing else, more java thingies that take bandwidth and cpu cycles to run.

    The only improvement I would like to see, and I’ll bet a lot of Polsters will echo this, is the ability to edit a post.  Even if only for ten minutes.

    I’ll hold my breath and hope for the best.

  5. UglyAmericanUglyAmerican says:

    1. Mobile support

    2. Subscribe to thread

    3. SMS or email notification of thread update

    4. Easier posting of music videos

    5. Emoji!

  6. Not Dame Edna says:

    Right now, you have to sign out of Colorado Pols and sign on to either Denver or JeffCo Pols and then sign off of that to sign on again to Colorado Pols.

    This wouldn’t be so terrible if it weren’t so hard to just sign on to begin with. I have lost count of the times of my attempts to sign on and being told that my pass word was invalid. Very frustrating especially because I copy and paste the pass word sent to me by Soapbox.

    I suspect that I am not the only person this happens to and probably accounts for the fact that are few to no posts on Denver or JeffCo Pols.

    So, if you could fix that glitch, this would be much easier and much more fun.

  7. Gorky PulviczekG Pulviczek says:

    Either a la Slashdot or at least with a simple “+1″/”-1″ interface for users.

    Slashdot has the advantage that moderation rotates between users, based on their “karma” (the gestalt of the contributions they make to the site).

    But “+1″/”-1″ (along with a way to configure the level at which you see comments) would go a long way toward reducing the impact of election-season morning drive-by spammings.

  8. AristotleAristotle says:

    Pols has needed an update for a long time. At the very least, they need something to make it friendly for smart phones – either a mobile version of the site, or an actual app. And the layout is really out of date.

    I hope that soapblox’s best features are retained (cascading comments, clear labeling of new comments, your comments and replies to your comments…. as you can see, I’m most concerned with being able to follow comments easily, and soapblox kicked every other platform’s ass on that count). And I hope the new features are awesome.

    Count me as excited to hear the news.

  9. davebarnesdavebarnes says:

    will be text instead of an image so The Google will index it

  10. GalapagoLarryGalapagoLarry says:

    I’m on SS and that check sure comes in handy.

  11. RedGreenRedGreen says:

    How about the Guvs fix it so ANY spam industry gets some special attention from the legislature. It worked with payday lending, it can work with insurance spam and that guy who keeps posting cut-rate TED bullshit.

  12. GalapagoLarryGalapagoLarry says:

    it includes what’s been happening to me today.

    To wit: I return to a diary and start scrolling down to check on only the red “new” posts. When I reply to one and hit “post” all the rest of the “news” disappear and the only red “new” on the page is by my own post. That leaves no recourse but to re-read the remaining posts to see if they’re new or not.

    This sucks. I hate reading.

    It just started happening this morning. Is Pols already trying out parts of the upgrade? If so: thumb down, 1, unfriend, hide commentor and whatever else becomes available.

    Whoa. Another strange thing just happened. Somehow on “preview” the minus sign on the “1″, above, became a strikethrough on the “1″ and partial strikethrough on “unfriend”.

    This site is boehnerizing!

  13. VoyageurVoyageur says:

    If you dislike a given poster you can click ignore on him and his comments disappear from your screen — while still being evident to anyone who has not chosen to ignore him.

      It’s a great way to handle trolls and flame artists without taking away their rights to post.    

  14. Gray in Mountains says:

    I’d like to see the part that says (1 new) in a field of 57 comments be clickable. Not just to get that comment, but to go to the area to see what it is in reply to , etc. Save scrolling

  15. RedGreenRedGreen says:

    Otherwise, I wish Pols would go back to the original format, before there were fixed screen names, when there were actual Capitol insiders posting (along with the Dead Guvs). Plus more mailbags! That is all, thank you.

  16. RedGreenRedGreen says:

    Not so much chrome as maybe a stainless steel or some rare metal that will be really eye-catching.

  17. AristotleAristotle says:

    Which browser do you use? Internet Explorer?

  18. Gray in Mountains says:

    bewildered

  19. Diogenesdemar says:

    rather have the ability to send someone an electrical shock?

  20. Not Dame Edna says:

    Doesn’t matter what computer I am on. I have heard this complaint from others .

  21. Gorky PulviczekG Pulviczek says:

    I’m aware of two popular forms of comment moderation.  The most common is a “+1″ and “-1″ button (or a “thumbs up” and “thumbs down” button) next to each message.  Logged-in users can click those (once!).  One of several things can then happen, based on the point total of the message:

    1. The comments are sorted from highest to lowest point total (replies to comments move with their parents); or

    2. Some sort of filter moves the lowest-rated comments to a level of “invisibility”; or

    3. The point total is displayed by the comment but no sorting or hiding is done

    The other method I referred to is used by Slashdot – http://www.slashdot.org .  Users with high “karmas” (based on positive contributions both in stories/diaries as well as comments) are allowed occasionally to “moderate” the comment threads.  The moderators vote on the threads, marking them as “+1 Insightful”, “+1 Informative”, “-1 Offtopic”, “-1 Troll” etc.  The users then browse the comments filtering at a user-selectable point total.  The highest point total is 5; the default point total is 1.  There’s an additional meta-moderation system intended to curb abuse.

    It’s all described at http://slashdot.org/moderation

    I’m sure I’ve further muddied the waters…

  22. Gorky PulviczekG Pulviczek says:

    If nothing else, editing would be a fantastic edition^H^H^H^H^H^H^H addition.

  23. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    Barron replies that he disagrees.

    I then edit my comment to say there is a God…

  24. AristotleAristotle says:

    just because there are some people whose idiocy needs to be saved for eternity. So they can’t delete them and create some plausible deniability (yeah, I think I made up that word). I think the thousands of preserved-in-amber typos and misstatements are a fair price to pay for that. (And I’ve made more than my fair share of those…)

  25. davebarnesdavebarnes says:

    will get paid.

    It is the CP socialist way.

  26. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    We can vote them up down and it shows the result.

  27. Pam Bennett says:

    Select commentariat with spam removal power.  As seen above, at least until the owner with the power removes the example, is why some of us elders should have that key.

  28. DavidThi808DavidThi808 says:

    For any comment the Guvs should consider removing

  29. Diogenesdemar says:

    good auto insurance . . . and the fact is that TED bullshit is way more useful than any repeated 21-point checklist bullshit.  

  30. Gorky PulviczekG Pulviczek says:

    I’ve seen some sites which allow only a short (say, 5-minute) period for editing which would prevent the worst abuses.

  31. sxp151 says:

    In fact Barron was the last one I remember doing that.

  32. Gorky PulviczekG Pulviczek says:

    The geeks over at Slashdot don’t generally understand the moderation system either.  But it works well.

    That said, I’d also be fine with just displaying the point totals.  For those of us who are trying (everybody’s patience?), it would be useful feedback on how well the message is coming across.

  33. Diogenesdemar says:

    the fun if having a penalty box.

    “BJ want a . . . cream puff?”

    “The president is a . . . silversmith!”

    “That is the most durned up, bunch of durning durn that’s ever come out of your durning durned up head, you complete durn.”

  34. BlueCat says:

    transition as uncomplicated as possible?

  35. RedGreenRedGreen says:

    But the spammers should also worry that their paymasters will face devastating regulations to rein them in.  

  36. RedGreenRedGreen says:

    to allow editing for something like a couple minutes? We’re talking about typos or forgetting to include the link or whatever, not rewriting history or escape from the penalty box.

  37. RedGreenRedGreen says:

    the new space-age Pols will have a holographic vortex box meant to contain and re-educate. And it’s going to be full if we use the system G describes above. Tons of violators.

  38. Diogenesdemar says:

    that must really hurt; I get a kind of brief melancholia anytime I pass by one of my former homes . . .  

  39. Gorky PulviczekG Pulviczek says:

    None of the rest of us voted for it.

  40. Duke Coxdukeco1 says:

    To wit: I return to a diary and start scrolling down to check on only the red “new” posts. When I reply to one and hit “post” all the rest of the “news” disappear and the only red “new” on the page is by my own post. That leaves no recourse but to re-read the remaining posts to see if they’re new or not.

    has always happened to me. I just figured that was normal.

  41. RedGreenRedGreen says:

    Once you add a new post, and the page refreshes, it’s the only new post since you last loaded the page. There’s nothing unusual about this.

  42. AristotleAristotle says:

    And I know, I know. I’m guilty of just going right to post anyway. I’ve made many mistakes I wanted back that way.

    Maybe the solution would be to make us wait 30 or 60 seconds before we can proceed to post. That way, we’d have nothing better to do while we wait than to actually proofread our posts. Maybe we’ll all catch our typos, or even get a chance to cancel something we might regret publishing.

  43. GalapagoLarryGalapagoLarry says:

    In 60 seconds I can refresh my vokada. Which is what I’ll do. Or pee.

    It doesn’t hurt us to live with our indiscretions, mistakes, foibles, typos, fuckups, whatever. In fact, it can provide us a learning moment. (Once, it was for me, and I insist in letting it stand.) Sometimes we need reminders we’re subject to “oops!” That “post” button isn’t a guillotine trip. It’s just a little rectangular pixellated “post” button.

    If perfection were the goal, this place wouldn’t be about politics. And personalities. And oops!

  44. GalapagoLarryGalapagoLarry says:

    always before, the remaining red “new” flags stayed, unless I left the thread.

    Ok, if I’m going senile (publicly, yet) and you guys are right, then I propose for the new improved ColoPols:

    Please make it so the red “new” flags remain until we leave the page.

    That was always really valuable. Or maybe it wasn’t? Now you guys have me all confused. Hmm. Is that why the doors at the end of the hallway are always locked and my nurse is a transgender ex-Bronco lineman?

  45. Diogenesdemar says:

    transgender . . .

    . . . but she was one hell of a defensive tackle.

  46. GalapagoLarryGalapagoLarry says:

    Ok. She may have the game stats, but I’m going to make it through one of those doors some day. When I find my eyeglasses.

  47. AristotleAristotle says:

    Maybe it can be 10 or 15. Just trying to think of something that will prompt people to actually be sure that they want to post what they write. I know it took me a long time to finally develop the discipline to wait and make sure I was going to post something I wouldn’t mind being in the permanent record, while still allowing that record to be permanent.

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