“What is abundantly clear now is that our government, federal and state, no longer exists for the people. The reality now is the people exist for the government. Whether you like it that way or not is not the point. The point is the Rubicon has now been crossed. We all work in service to the government at all levels. That’s how government sees it. That’s how the president sees it; that’s how senators see it. That’s how state legislators see it and governors see it.”
–Rush Limbaugh, yesterday

Looks like the sun is going to come up after all. And it’s a glorious morning in Denver Town.
So how come Rush gets paid millions to merely state the obvious?
A Statist reality Rush and none of the other windbags have done anything to stop. Heck, maybe even hastened.
nra.org
have always been regardless of NRA. Take a few billion from defense budget or just create a line within deffense budget called “National Security-partial response to domestic massacres”. LaPierre wants us to ignore the killings in parks, malls, churches, museums, etc.
Zero mention of mass murder magazines.
While he did address the issue of media errors re “machine guns”, the only important contribution of his soliloquy, he did not talk about assault weapons.
LaPierre wants a national database of the mentally ill. I want a national database of gunowners and local publication of those with CCW. And ban of mass murder magazines.
VP Biden is the right guy to move this forward, not Asa Huthinson. The last couple of days I’ve seen a replay of a memorable moment from the ’07 Dem pres candidate debates when Anderson Cooper took a video question from a freak who asked Biden how he would protect his “baby” and then held up an assault weapon. Biden, well known for speaking more bluntly than most, replied to the effect “if that is your baby you are mentally unstable”
otherwise known as the NRA. $10 annual dues. The purpose of the NRA will be to discuss refrigeration and guns. Perhaps Larry or Dio could be the Executive Director.
The Goosinator.
Yeah, more guns is the answer … ?
As long as you and your nut case buddies keep denying the reality of America’s historical socialist/capitalist economic partnership, you’re doomed.
Doooomed.
Doooooooooooooooomed, I say.
Keep it up. This old socialist is cheering you on.
Did I mention, doooooooooooooooooooooooomed!
Time for you (and that mewling, bloviating fat ass) to get to work. That is all.
a story somewhere…(I lost the link, looking for it…) about a 7yr. old who is shot to death this morning as he sat in his carseat. His father accidentally shot him while putting away a gun he had unsuccessfully tried to sell.
Nothing else to say, really.
that was their big, foreshadowed answer to 20 first graders and 6 adults slain at the hands of a 20 yr old insanely-armed murderer?
Armed security does NOT work. Armed security DOES NOT WORK.
Armed security and STILL 2 people DEAD.
Armed security on the fuckin’ largest US armed military base in the world and STILL 13 people DEAD and 29 WOUNDED.
Following NRA’s fucked up response & logic then we should have armed guards at IHOPs, hair salons, coffee shops, shopping malls, schools, universities, securities trading firms, Sikh temples, fundamentalist churches, … everywhere.
(this puts me over my quota on characters for the rest of 2012 and likely into 2013 — see ya)
http://www.post-gazette.com/st…
How about, 1 down, 7 more to go:
This is obscene beyond words. And of course, the NRA wants more guns to solve this crisis.
for what passes as protest by right wing “victims”.
what I meant was…the horror speaks for itself.
LaPierre is a criminal…who makes a million dollars a year to perpetuate the horror.
I love my refrigerator…it’s my baby. That’s where I keep the cabbage.
they pry it out of my undependable temperature dead hands!
I could really use the bump in salary, . . .
and, besides we all know that there’s a couple of obvious solutions to this country’s refrigerator crime problem:
1. Allow every citizen to openly carry their refrigerators with them,
and,
2. More refrigerators. I’m thinking maybe one in every room of one’s home and workplace. Vigilance . . .
Remember people, it’s the position of the NRA that refrigerators don’t kill people, . . . that’s all the fault of video games, and the media.
(I’m also thinking about cooperating with that other NRA — as far as I can see, the very best place to keep your “heaters” would be one of our “coolers” . . .)
as well as openness to cabbage recipes. Its not just for coleslaw anymore!
your refrigerator, if it opened right to left or left to right, if the freezer were on the side, the bottom or the top. Members must be open to differences in refrigerators.
a Boulder/Nederland solution for Denver
AKA a “please rob these people” list? I think that’s a bit much…
is going gnuts and you know he has a penis and a CCW, it might be wise to call local law enforcement
public work, public document
top stolen home items are cash, jewelry, expensive portable home appliances and entertainment gear — guns are gonna be found if they’re accessible. CCW list ain’t gonna make the 35% of US households that own a gun anymore susceptible.
Thieves look for easy targets. Do you really think that if a thief knows that a home owner has a CCW then that makes the house a good target.
Fuxsake, sound it out Conceal Carry Weapon permit. That means the gun owner is pretty likely to be CARRYING the gun (’cause those kinda folks don’t go anywhere without their Precious). Besides, rule #1 for a thief is to find an easy target. Is an armed gun-stroking ass, someone paranoid enough to get a CCW sound like an easy target?
If anything, a published CCW list would make unarmed citizens the easy targets. So it would be thanks to these fuckheaded paranoic CCW assmoles, the rest of us would be put at even more risk.
On the other hand, cars and drunks kill an awful lot of people and we don’t publicize individuals’ vehicle registration information so that you can look up that license plate of the driver swerving all over the road yourself. I would be inclined to think if you know your neighbor is going nuts, a discreet call is a good idea whether or not you know he has CCW. I was once trapped in a garage while canvassing by a crazy man who I’m pretty sure is NOT a gun owner, but who turns out to be a disgruntled former Rocky Flats employee and a scientist perfectly capable of making a pretty damn serious bomb in his basement. (Yes, local PD knows and keeps an eye on him.)
CC permits are issued by the Department of Agriculture, the good folks looking after your best interests in phone solicitor blocking for $$ per year, gasoline weights and measures, etc.
Because they are not a law enforcement agency, they are unable to access FBI and other federal agency databases while determining an applicant’s approval.
Yet another hole in the wall of trying to stop the crazies from killing you or me.
Welcome to Florida.
Sorry, but I don’t think the analogy works.
I don’t believe in anonymous free speech.
I don’t believe in concealed carry.
Because they aren’t designed to kill.
Please, don’t compare guns to anything other than tools designed for killing or maiming humans. When other things kill people, they are being used incorrectly.
(Also, specifically regarding cars, there are MILLIONS of incident-free car trips taken every DAY, meaning that the percentage of fatal trips out of all car trips is infinitesimally small. I bet the ratio of woundings and killings to the number of times a gun is drawn in this country is much higher. That’s just a hunch.)
I’ll look it up later — if I’m incorrect then you’re right, but firearms instructors tend to advise not telling anyone you’re a gun owner who isn’t already a legal gun owner, because this increases the risk of your gun being stolen and used in the commission of a crime.
To post your comment decrying anonymous free speech.
I give you our team!
becasue once they take away ourfridges tyranny is all but certain.
call Rick Scott. That is just gnuts
for when you’re plugged. (no pun, period)
then they will come for our foot massagers..
We can’t let this happen…
In 2011, there were 31,347 total firearms deaths (including suicides).
I looked up some numbers on rounds fired per trip to the firing range, and got an average of 250 rounds per person (based on anecdotal statements from sport shooters on a forum), and found another report stating that there are around 3,100 operational firing ranges in the United States. Assume a range services ~80 customers per day (10 per hour — probably low) and you get 22,630,000,000 rounds fired annually just at sport shooting ranges — doesn’t include rounds fired for hunting or people shooting cans in an open space area. 13.7 million people went hunting in the US in the last hunting season, but I found no way to estimate the rounds they fired. There are ~100 fatal hunting accidents annually in the US and Canada.
In 2011, there were 34,485 US traffic accident deaths. There were just under 3,000,000,000,000 miles driven in the US. Divide that by 40 (average miles driven per day) and you get 75,000,000,000 daily uses of automobiles.
So, one death per 721,919 rounds fired (firing ranges only), to one death per 2,174,858 car trips — so there are three times the fatalities per round fired as fatalities per use of vehicle. This would tend to support that guns are more dangerous than cars; however, this is including gun suicides, which are approximately 40% of gun deaths.
Additionally, I referred specifically to “cars and drunks” — a knowing misuse of automobiles that is nevertheless extremely common and extremely high-risk. Getting behind the wheel while drunk is comparable to drawing a firearm while drunk: Never a good idea and you have a decent chance of ruining a life. We don’t publicize the names and home addresses of alcoholics who also have registered motor vehicles, or of motor vehicle owners who possess large quantities of alcohol.
Lastly, I strongly disagree that guns are manufactured for the sole purpose of maiming or killing human beings. I’m all for banning the magazines and assault weapons which DO fit that description, but I support ownership of handguns and long guns that are designed for hunting and sport shooting, in addition to home defense. Guns designed for mass murder don’t belong in private hands, but barring access to a reasonable hunting, sport shooting, or home defense weapon for healthy people with no violent criminal history would be going too far.
of rounds fired and visits to ranges are likely high, esp in CO where most ranges are in rural areas. When hunters are fine tuning for their upoming hunting excursion they often don’t fire more than 5-6 rounds. I don’t think I’ve ever fired 250 rounds in a visit and I usually take 6-8 guns with me. But, I do agree with the conclusion in your last paragraph