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February 21, 2013 02:21 PM UTC

John McCain, Ladies and Gentlemen!

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  • by: Colorado Pols

When Republican Sen. John McCain ran for re-election in 2010, he fended off a primary challenge in part by running a gazillion ads in Arizona where he said, "Build the dang fence," in regards to immigration policy. Some folks in Arizona are upset that nobody built a dang fence, and they've been letting McCain have it in townhall meetings. Some of his answers are…well, let's just say it's a good thing he isn't President. From NBC News:

“You said ‘build the dang fence’ – where’s the fence?” one constituent named Keith Smith demanded of McCain.

“He doesn’t want the American people to stand up and ask him the tough questions and hold his feet to the fire,” Smith told NBC affiliate KPNX.

McCain told the crowd that Americans would not support a move to arrest all illegal immigrants in the United States and deport them. He also said he wouldn’t support an effort to make people who had been in the United States illegally for decades to become guest workers because “we’re a Judeo-Christian principled nation,” [Pols emphasis] drawing an angry response from some in the crowd.

It's tough to comment on that last quote because we really don't know what the dang he's talking about. But it makes us feel better to know that McCain probably doesn't know, either.

 

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14 thoughts on “John McCain, Ladies and Gentlemen!

    1. Yep. The" Judeo" is thrown in like, back in the 50s and 60s, the dreidel song would be thrown into the Christmas program. That made it officially non-denominational, I guess. No favoritism for any particular religion here, by golly.  You've not only got complete non-denominational fairness for all kinds of diverse denominations such as Baptists, Methodists, Lutherans and even the few Catholics who attend public school but there's even something to make it fair and square for the little Jews.  Even though they aren't going to heaven but hey, while they're with us they'll get their dreidel song.

      I really don't have anything against Christianity. Well, maybe except for the Inquisition, etc. Most of my best friends come from Christian backgrounds just because most people around here do. So does my husband and a bunch of cousins from mixed marriages.  Also, I'm not exactly observant in more than a very casual, when I feel like it kind of way.  But Judeo-Christian has always struck me as a bit of an oxymoron, at least for Jews.  My attitude toward being included via that hyphen can best be described as "Thanks but no thanks. I'm good".

       

  1. Certainly immigrants do contribute to the economy however an equivalent US citizen would also contribute.  Most media pieces, such as the recent article in the Denver Post, are nothing more than pro- immigration propaganda. The DP probably thinks they are gaining Democrat voters and exhibiting compassion when in reality, they are shills for billionaires who prefer cheap immigrant labor to higher priced US citizen labor.

     

    Sure I may be taking a position contrary to the official “libertarian” position but it is not so simple. First of all, you cannot have a welfare State with open borders. Secondly, you cannot have 1 way open borders, meaning, without equal rights in the other Nation, it does no good to have an open border.

     

     

    1. "An equivalent US citizen" is really fricking unlikely to take up the work immigrants do – remember the Vidalia onions rotting for want of pickers, thanks to Georgia's restrictive laws against undocumented aliens?

      Anyway, your position may be not be in line with your libetarianism, but they're perfectly in line with your opinions about minorities.

    2. Seriously, you really do need to schooled up on this subject. Everything you said is so incorrect it's staggering.

      You can do your own work, so I'm not going to baby sit you, but………the welfare state crack pertains to………..what? Describe how Immigration reform and "welfare state" have anything to do with eachother.

      Open borders, really? The net illegal crossing's zero, this President…..you know, the "black guy" that you hate…..has deported more illegals since '09 than both bushes AND President Clinton combined.

      What's frustrating is that there are skidmarks like you out there, too lazy to actually inform yourself, then you listen to some rightwing hate blowhard spewing this crap, and you follow up by making a fool out of yourself here, repeating what you can remember the guy said, none of which is anything but bullshit.

      But, by all means, please proceed with a rebuttal.

    3. Sure I may be taking a position contrary to the official “libertarian” position but it is not so simple. First of all, you cannot have a welfare State with open borders. Secondly, you cannot have 1 way open borders, meaning, without equal rights in the other Nation, it does no good to have an open border.

      So you are saying?…the best setup is a border that is closed in both directions so that Americans will need an exit visa to leave the country. Do I have that right?

  2. Exodus 22:20 (in reference to immigrants): 
    "And you shall not mistreat a stranger, nor shall you oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt."

     

    1. Reminds me of that modern Biblical scholar:

       

      “If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it.”

      ― Stephen Colbert

      1. Of course, while the majority of the people here are Christian or from Christian backgrounds, we aren't a Christian nation because the constitution forbids the USA from having any official religion and its government from having any role in endorsing, promoting, banning or generally messing in any way with the religious sphere.  The nation as created by our constitution is a secular entity allowing complete freedom of conscience for each and every citizen in the spiritual sphere because of the hands off religion provisions in our constitution. Just sayin'.

        Of course, Colbert's observation on the hypocrisy rampant in the party base that claims we are a Christian nation and that they are the best Christians makes a very good point.

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