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July 08, 2013 06:48 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

  • 43 Comments
  • by: DavidThi808

(Promoted by Colorado Pols)

"The problem with internet quotes is that you cant always depend on their accuracy"

–Abraham Lincoln, 1864

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43 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

    1. Turning? I think that happened sometime last week, sadly. I just hope the rest of the region stays out of and it stays an Egyptian war.

    2. I have a few friends visiting there now. They say it's possible to stay away from the violence if one's careful and keeps up to speed with events as they happen. So clashes between the involved parties are still restricted to certain areas now – though I gather it's going to get worse.

  1. the birthers are baaaack. boyles and his cadre are wilder than ever…I thought that christians couldn't lie…unless of course they were catholic bishops protecting pedophiles….

     

     

    1. RE dwyer:

      Christians do the same as everyone else.  Differences being Christians have a Savior, assuming they are not false Christians.

      True Christians have a spirit of repentance, which will slowly but surely alter their behavior, i.e. lying less than before…

      You can spot a false Christian because they lack the fruits found in Galatians 5:22.

      Galatians 5:22-23

      New International Version (NIV)

      22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

       

       

      1. The Eight 'I'd Rather You Didn'ts' revealed to the culinarily wise by the Great Spaghetti Monster

        It's The Eight "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts"

        1. I'd really rather you didn't act like a sanctimonious holier-than-thou *** when describing my noodly goodness. If some people don't believe in me, that's okay. Really, I'm not that vain. Besides, this isn't about them so don't change the subject.

        2. I'd really rather you didn't use my existence as a means to oppress, subjugate, punish, eviscerate, and/or, you know, be mean to others. I don't require sacrifices, and purity is for drinking water, not people.

        3. I'd really rather you didn't judge people for the way they look, or how they dress, or the way they talk, or, well, just play nice, okay? Oh, and get this into your thick heads: woman = person. man = person. Samey = Samey. One is not better than the other, unless we're talking about fashion and I'm sorry, but I gave that to women and some guys who know the difference between teal and fuchsia.

        4. I'd really rather you didn't indulge in conduct that offends yourself, or your willing, consenting partner of legal age AND mental maturity. As for anyone who might object, I think the expression is "go f*** yourself," unless they find that offensive in which case they can turn off the TV for once and go for a walk for a change.

        5. I'd really rather you didn't challenge the bigoted, misogynistic, hateful ideas of others on an empty stomach. Eat, then go after the b******.

        6. I'd really rather you didn't build multi million-dollar synagogues / churches / temples / mosques / shrines to my noodly goodness when the money could be better spent (take your pick):
        Ending poverty
        Curing diseases
        Living in peace, loving with passion, and lowering the cost of cable
        I might be a complex-carbohydrate omniscient being, but I enjoy the simple things in life. I ought to know. I AM the creator.

        7. I'd really rather you didn't go around telling people I talk to you. You're not that interesting. Get over yourself. And I told you to love your fellow man, can't you take a hint?

        8. I'd really rather you didn't do unto others as you would have them do unto you if you are into, um, stuff that uses a lot of leather/lubricant/vaseline. If the other person is into it, however (pursuant to #4), then have at it, take pictures, and for the love of Mike, wear a CONDOM! Honestly, it's a piece of rubber. If I didn't want it to feel good when you did it I would have added spikes, or something.

        1. Twitty, I am SO stealing this! I'm a devotee of the "Sketti Monster and I've never seen anything that summed his teachings so well.

          1. BTW: I have the Testament of the 'Sketti Monster and His holy proper name is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Just thought I'd clear that up.

            1. Excuse, me, but your assumption that FSM Orthodoxy is the only religion is narrow-minded and arrogant.

              I myself am a Seventh-Day Pastafarian.

               

              1. Ya-  Pastifari!  (Myself, I am ecumenical.  I believe that noodles of various sorts have come about in many cultures, and all hold tasty sauces very well, though each may be particularly adapted to its regional or specific blend of goodness).  

                 

      2. Whichever set of myths, parables and magic formulas appeals to you. It's all good until we start imposing our faves on others and doing other charming things for which Christians have been known just as much as others throughout their history such as torturing and killing folks in the name of their beliefs.

        1. That is summed up well in GSM's first two "I really rather you didn'ts"

           

          1. I'd really rather you didn't act like a sanctimonious holier-than-thou *** when describing my noodly goodness. If some people don't believe in me, that's okay. Really, I'm not that vain. Besides, this isn't about them so don't change the subject.

          2. I'd really rather you didn't use my existence as a means to oppress, subjugate, punish, eviscerate, and/or, you know, be mean to others. I don't require sacrifices, and purity is for drinking water, not people.

          – See more at: http://coloradopols.com/diary/45369/monday-open-thread-24#comments

          1. That GSM would get along well with legendary Rabbi Hillel. When asked to explain Judaism while standing on one foot he said …don't do to others what you would not have them do to you.  Period. That was it.

            I like it better than the positive "do into others" version because Hillel's doesn't assume that what you want is what everybody should want. For instance you might really think being tortured into accepting some magic formula to save your soul is what you'd want if you didn't already accept said formula. I kind of think It's safer to assume that if you wouldn't appreciate something yourself, best not to impose it on others. Even if it turns out they might like it (take Eurotrash music…pulease), no harm done. And of course you can always just ask.

      3. Indeed, it's easy to find a true Christian, just find a true Scotsman.

         

        When dealing with a True Christian® always ask them the question: “Just what would you do for Jesus?” If the answer comes back “Anything” then deal with them very carefully. Eventually God will tell the True Christian® to screw you. The True Christian® can do this and remain a True Christian® because taking a magic Jesus pill absolves him of any responsibility toward those he's wronged and transfers it to the Jesus guy who, presumably, will make it all better for the wronged person, at least after they're dead, or something.

         

        In addition, it's OK for the True Christian® to steal from his children and yours because the world's going to end soon anyway. May as well use it up before that happens.

          1. Oh no. Now I have that stupid jingle melody stuck in my head. Quick. We need a Eurotrash or Russian pop music fest post from David. It would enter my head just long enough to cleanse the jingle with no danger of sticking.

      4. Nocky, a few questions-

        What is a true Christian, how do you tell the difference, and when did you get your license to certify someone as a true or not-true Christian? Is there a course I could take at CMU, or something?

         

         

      5. Well, I guess that means the Catholic bishops, anti-immigrant haters, and anti-choice liars fall in to the "false Christian" category, then.

        Be careful where you quote Scripture, Nock, and remember your Shakespeare:

        The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
        An evil soul producing holy witness
        Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
        A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
        O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!

      6.  love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,  gentleness and self-control.

        Sorry, Nock. I keep looking at the Republican agenda…I'm not finding the above concepts represented there. Please do cite some work done by the Republican Party that elevates and focuses on these fruits.

        I thought you guys were the true Christians. Please point out to me t

        1. (oops)  where the Republicans display any such behavior toward you if you are female, dark-skinned, young, gay, a pot smoker, from another country, poor, working-poor…anything but white, greedy, and violent.

        1. This would be an historic moment, a real step forward for men who still want to wear anachronistic facial hair, and maybe be able to save a little soup from lunch for later–in the process.  You never know what crazy adventure might wait in Hot Sulfur Springs.  I wouldn’t want to compete with that base. 

          Baumgardner would be busting a nearly 100-year old trend.  The last time a U.S. Senator got elected from Colorado with facial hair (according to the official portraits via that arbiter of all things true and good, the intertubes)  was the election of 1918, Republican Lawrence Phipps who served until 1931 (Udall's seat currently).  The last Democrat elected with facial hair, as per the same rigorous research standards above, was Sen. Charles Thomas, who served from 1913-1921.  

           

      1. But, but, wouldn't that make God an atheist heathen Democrat?!? Maybe a secular Jew? Oh, I forgot. To our righties (except the misguided Jewish ones) that's pretty much the same thing.

    1. Rule #1.
      When you announce (and he has announced) for a new office, either change your existing website or nuke it and start a new one.

      So, Randy has already demonstrated that he is an idiot.

      BAUMGARDNERFORSENATE.COM is available and so is RANDYBAUMGARTNER.COM (mispelled with a t)

      More proof of idiocy.

  2. Here's proof that hilarious satire in novels and films has nothing on hilarious satire in  the real world.

    An ex-madam who claims to have supplied former New York Governor Eliot Spitzer with hookers is now Spitzer's opponent in the race to become NYC's next comptroller.

    “This is going to be the funnest campaign ever,” Kristin Davis, who spent three months in prison for running an escort service, told The New York Daily News.

    “I’ve been waiting for my day to face [Spitzer] for five years,” Davis said. “I sat … in Rikers Island, I came out penniless and nothing happened to him. The hypocrisy there is huge.”

     

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/08/kristin-davis_n_3560659.html

     

    While "funnest" instead of "most fun" is one of those things that has a nails on blackboard effect on me, I can't argue with the sentiment.

     

  3. Well, I've been able to access Pols each of the past three days, so I guess China's censorship of this site is over, maybe? I'm glad to be back!

    1. Are they aware that equal representation by county is unconstitutional? The Supreme Court held a long time ago that legislative district must hold equal numbers of voters.

      The U.S. Senate gets an exception only because it is defined in the Constitution.

      1. There is also a fundemental difference between states and the federal government as between the states and their counties.  The US is a federation of states.  Counties are a subset of states.  Big difference.

         

         

    2. Look at the people in the room. You can see all you need to see, right there.

      This is about white, privileged, Christians against everyone else. The delineation between rural/urban is merely another fold in society where the fundamentalist crowd can try to tuck their racism. The Republicans will resort to any arena of hatred and fear to motivate their base. Why not stoke up a war between the country folk and the city folk?

      (full disclosure: I am a white, privileged, christian.)

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