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July 10, 2013 06:34 AM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

"A man that studieth revenge keeps his own wounds green."

–Francis Bacon

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    1. Ron Paul?  That guy who's been on a government paycheck for how long now?  Thanks Ron for living fat off the suffering 'poor and low-middle inclome workers'

      1. I read a story this morning about how Rand is just as crazy radical as his daddy, Ron…but he is deliberately hiding it. I'll see if I can find it again and post a link.

  1. Found it…

     

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/07/10/like-father-like-son-ron-paul-passes-the-neo-confederate-baton-to-rand.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28The+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29

    As Rand Paul’s national profile continues to rise, one question has dogged the Republican senator from Kentucky: Is he is father’s son, ideologically speaking, or his own man? Or, to put it more bluntly, how far has the apple fallen from the extremist tree?

    There are two probable answers. Perhaps Rand is indeed an independent thinker who, while sharing the broad, small government and non-interventionist leanings of his dad, is not a crank. Or, Rand is indeed a crank, yet one whose ambitions outweigh his ideological convictions. In other words, Rand knows that, in order to succeed on the national stage—he is widely expected to make a run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016—he can’t let his freak flag fly.

    Since Rand’s emergence on the national stage several years ago, I’ve been inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. But in light of a blockbuster report by Alana Goodman of the Washington Free Beacon, I now lean more toward the latter. Goodman reports that one of the senator’s closest aides and the co-author of a 2011 book, Jack Hunter, spent years as a neo-Confederate activist and radio host. From 1999 until last year, Goodman reports, Hunter was the host of a South Carolina radio program whose alter ego was “The Southern Avenger.” Hunter, who would sport a Stars-and-Bars mask during public appearances, praised John Wilkes Booth, the assassin of President Abraham Lincoln—whom he compared to Saddam Hussein. Earlier, Hunter had been a leader in the League of the South, a secessionist organization

    1. Rand Paul is part of the "revisit" the Civil Rights Act of 1964…you know the one about no discrimination in public accommodation; it is a federal law.  Well…RP is one of those who thinks that private property rights and states rights should trump the 14th amendment,,,   This is, IMHO, the absolute danger behind the rash of abortion laws in the states…..as well as the possible, and I stress possible, consequence of DOMA.  If SCOTUS decides that abortion is a matter for each state to decide…which is the official Republican/religious postion, it opens the door to 

      unravel civil rights legislation and the ability of the federal government to guarantee equal protection under the law as stated in the 14th Amendment……

      1. The overturning of DOMA could become important if subsequent SCOTUS decides that marriage is an issue to be decided by each state…..the DOMA decision did not

        make marriage equality a civil right….

        1. @dwyer, that is correct. Whether states that don't currently recognize same-sex marriage have to recognize marriages from states that do   is a seperate issue that hasn't been decided on yet. I imagine this issue will be before the court in the couple of years (certainly less than a decade).

    1. Thanks for posting this, DP. I watched this earlier and was proud of this young person's bravery and ability to speak truth to power. Amazing and sad that the Tx legislature had to forcibly remove her!

    1. DIA to Grand Junction, David.  We'd get back some of the skiers we lost to Utah.  (If we ever get any snow, that is.)  I know a guy who works building the light rail–a billion bucks to go from DIA to Silverthorne alone, he says.  But I think it would be great for the state.

      1. Not so fast there …

        DIA to Silverthorne is one thing …

        But, I really enjoy our 13,000-foot plus natural barrier that keeps the majority of Grand Junction righties from crapping up our side of paradise (or, at least slows their progress …)

        (Along those same lines, I think the very best thing we could do for Colorado would be to erect an impenetrable mountain range just south of Trinidad to keep that Texas riff-raff out …)

        1. And we really appreaciate our 13,000-foot plus natural barrier that keeps city folk down there in the flats.  We wish it kept our water over here too. 

            1. If the Good Lord had wanted eastern plain cityfolk to stray futher than Vail Resorts, he wouldn't have named your trickle over there the SPlatte. 

                1. As it has been said at many a water conference, if God had wanted all of the Colorado River to flow west, he would have given Glenn Saunders to the Western Slope.

                   

    2. That tube transport system is nothing short of fucking amazing.  And from a company in Longmont too.  Thanks for posting it.

  2. Rand Paul is Ron Paul, only more handsome and less honest. In other news, things are getting ugly in Pueblo. Mountain West Research, a firm based out of Pocatello, Idaho, but which contracts with Asian call centers, has begun "push-polling" against Senator Angela Giron in Pueblo. The calls begin with a 10 minute questionnaire designed to draw out the interviewee's political leanings and opinions on the recall election and gun legislation.

    Then, things get ugly. The questioner presents, in a thick Pakistani accent, 5 "hypothetical" questions about Giron.  The format is, "If this were true, how would you feel? Would it change your level of support for Senator Angela Giron?"

    The five hypotheticals include falsehoods or exaggerations about raising taxes, cheating non-immigrants on tuition rates via the ASSET legislation, overrunning costs on Boys and Girls club as the CEO, being congenitally against the second amendmendment, and having a "known criminal" working for her in the anti-recall effort.

    To me, this is the quintessence of calculated political evil – to ask which of five lies will be most effective in changing voter's minds. Stay tuned.

     

      1. @Phoenix Rising, Whose cost-benefit analysis? Increasing numbers of minimum-wage, part-time jobs, with little upward mobility certainly passes a corporate cost-benefit analysis (cheaper labor costs).

        However, it fails the societal and macro-economic cost-benefit analysis. Unless we’re willing to allow people to be homeless or hungry, despite working, it becomes a question of pay now, or pay later. If people are without access to healthcare, or don’t make a living wage on the front-end, we all end up paying later in the form of welfare, food-stamps, and reimbursing hospitals for uncompensated care.      

        1. Their CBA, Urban. The one that reflects the real world consequences as it applies directly to them over the course of some short-sighted future.

          For corporations, it's the CBA that says "We can dump toxic chemicals that would cost us $1,000,000 to mitigate; worst case we can reach a settlement to clean it up for the same $1,000,000 – and there's only a 3% chance we'll be caught."

          For this push polling group, it's pure numbers: how many people can they dissuade vs. how many people are turned off by the tactic, and how much does it affect the person they're actually supporting?  I don't even know who's opposing Giron – the worst that could happen is they make my support for her even stronger than it is already. Using that kind of math, it's no wonder they pull these stunts.

          The Republican Party has bought in 110% to the "run the government like a corporation" mantra: maximize shareholder profit and all other consequences be damned.

  3. Perhaps a Sleeping Giant is awakening in time for 2014 elections:

    From Greg Sargent:

    It’s not unusual to hear dirty hippie liberal blogger types (and the occasional lefty Nobel Prize winner) point out that today’s GOP has effectively abdicated the role of functional opposition party, instead opting for a kind of post-policy nihilism in which sabotaging the Obama agenda has become its only guiding governing light.

    This is not typical opposition, and its good to hear this stated outright by someone as respected inside the Beltway as Chuck Todd. The only mystery is why more journalists aren’t willing to point it out. After all, Republicans are making this basic reality harder and harder to ignore.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/07/09/sabotage-governing/

    1. WHAT?  Todd reports on MSNBC; a cable channel that supports the "progressive

      perspective."  That doesn't mean that Todd is biased.but he is no Uncle Walter. The observation that the Republicans have abdicated the role of the opposition party is correct.  It is their political strategy that is working for them.  Obama can not get his agenda passed….none of it.  Meantime, the repubs are winning in the states…..and using that power to successfully pass their agendas…..see, we do not have a popular national election.  Everything happens in the individual states.  The federal House of Representatives is secure far into the future for the Republicans.  They are posed to take over the Senate in 2014.  

      You will not hear this on Chuck Todd's program.  "Progressive" blogs are the equivalent of right wing talk radio  Everybody sprouts the party line.

       

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