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August 05, 2013 07:09 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

"The name and pretense of virtue is as serviceable to self-interest as are real vices."

–Francois de La Rochefoucauld 

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22 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. One of many things, real useful news actually, that you won't be reading in the Denver Post or the Pueblo Chieftan . . .

    Saboteurs in the Potato Salad

    http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/01/saboteurs-in-the-potato-salad/?_r=0

    . . . of course, you will, undoubtedly, read breathless coverage of these important meetings, and the pearls of wisdom uttered by Lamborn, Coffman, Gardner, and Tipton (… awfully quiet on that western front lately — perhaps an alien abduction?)

    1. You won’t hear it from the saboteurs, but this economy is truly getting better. Over seven million new jobs have been created in the last 40 months, and this year is shaping up to be the best one for private-sector job growth since 1999. The stock market is at a record high. The housing market is robust again. The federal deficit is falling at the fastest rate in 60 years. And in June, the government actually ran a $116 billion surplus — that is, took in that much more than it spent.

      And if Romney were in office now, the Republicans would be nominating him (probably themselves too) for sainthood for achieving the above results.

  2. Suggestion for the Dept of Tourism:

    I'm over in France right now to visit my daughter now that her internship has ended (poor baby – having to spend the summer in France doing research 🙂 ). France is a wonderful place to vacation, much better than I expected. We'll come back we've enjoyed it so much.

    So lessons in what Colorado could do to increase tourism. These are items that will have tourists return, and tell their friends to come here.

    1. Provide menus, rental car info, mass transit schedules, etc. in other languages. Pretty much anything here is available in English, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian (which covers people from all of Eastern Europe), Chinese, & Japanese. Makes doing things really easy.
    2. Eliminate tips. The service charge is included and there is no way to add an additional tip. I can understand why it's done this way, it's much nicer and for people used to it, having to determine a tip is probably stressful. And service with a guaranteed tip has been 100% wonderful.
    3. Set the drinking age for beer & wine to 18. Beer (in Germany) and wine (in France) is basically water for meals. There's no enforced drinking age. And shocker – with it not being illegal, they have much less of a teen drinking problem.

    Do the above and we'll increase tourism from Europe & Asia substantially over the next couple of years. Making the trip comfortable is gigantic for repeat and referral business.

    1. What Department of Tourism?  The only way to 'eliminate tips' is to require that servers be paid a real wage, which means that all the GOP electeds just voted against it.  Servers in Europe have healthcare, subsidized ediucation, workable transit.  etc. etc. etc. 

          1. Who includes it?  Who requires that?  Are you suggesting that some govt entity or legislation do away with tips and mandate say an 18% across the board tip?  And what makes you think that would go over with the cheapskates here that getaway with 10% or compensate for good nights when a server walks away with 20%? By what mechanisms and how do you see this working? 

            I mean if you throw out ideas and expect them to be taken seriously please show how they are remotely practical.

            1. I think restaurants should implement it individually. Most presently say there will be an automatic 18% tip for parties of 8 or more. Here's an example. So clearly practible.

              And it can be set to an amount that is a little above what people presently average. So people will make as much as they are now.

              1. If it's voluntary, it won't happen. Especially not via the state's "Department of Tourism".

                Restaurants have long lobbied to have their waitstaff exempted from minimum wage laws, and they don't like the whole tips+wages minimum wage, either. If it's not a law, the industry simply won't go for it.

        1. You understand a 'Department' is a certain level of 'office' correct?  This is not that.

          Not to be a pain in the butt, but your ideas would never work.  Their is no authority that can wipe out tips and insist that servers get living wages (which in the US might be significantly higher than in a 'European-Socialist' state like France.  How would one get from, say, Gypsum up alley to Vail without a car on $2.01 or $7.25/hour?  We don't all live where we can jump on the Hop and Skip.  Tourists like it out here, but the service industry lives–literally–on tips. 

           

           

            1. {sigh} A (singular) restaurant (singular) in New York City (urban)  is not the same as a diner in Eagle.

              You wrote:

              So lessons in what Colorado could do to increase tourism 

              And mentioned a Department of Tourism (which sounds like an actual state entity)  to mean: individual restaurants should opt to do that?

              Lots of restaurants do that, for parties of '6 or more' or whatever. 

              But you seemed to suggest a system where the innocent tourist can just roam about and sleep with good conscience knowing their servers have all been fairly compensated without having to bother calculating what 15% is.  That's not individual restaurants implementing something separately on their own.  Which was the point I was raising. 

              It’s a nice idea, but we're not Europe for ill and good.  Or NYC.  If restaurants, associations etc. want to implement and advertise that, I say go for it, nothing is stopping them.  That did not sound like what you were proposing. 

              Plus, when I travelled there last all my servers were glad to accept tips–although I had heard 10% was more customary.  We may move in different circles. 

              (PS-Have a great trip, I'd love to be in France, tipping or included in tab either way).

              So lessons in what Colorado could do to increase tourism – See more at: http://coloradopols.com/diary/47026/monday-open-thread-28#comment-522004

              1. Hi;

                I figure the best approach is for the Tourism Office (right, not a dept) should suggest that individual businesses do the translating, built in service charge, etc. And then when it works well for some, spread the word to others.

                As for tips over here, we've been told that you don't tip on top. In fact, there's no way to do so as they come to the table, take your card, and print the receipt right there with no place to add a tip.

                The one law the state could implement is lower the drinking age. The tea party Congresspeople keep yelling the feds should not tell us what to do – so undo the no booze till 21 federal law.

    2. David – 

      I'm curious how you've handled alcohol at home. My plan is to teach my kid to handle alcohol beginning at about 16 – small glass of wine at dinner and so on, with the goal of developing a healthy respect and appreciation for alcohol. She is 12 now. What if anything did you do?

      1. I told them to first drink more than they should when they were in High School – so I could come get them if necessary. My wife and I always stressed being safe so no getting in a car if the driver is drinking, don't drink to the point that you make really bad decisions, etc. Oh, and to not drink Tequila as their first booze.

        Because it wasn't forbidden, it was no big deal and all we ever faced was the occasional hangover. Oh, and I would speak really loudly and we would find something requiring serious exertion when they were hung over – so the after effect was more painful.

        There's also the example. A beer/week was heavy drinking for me and I think what the parents do counts for a lot.

        With all that said, maybe I did a lousy job parenting and was just lucky 🙂

  3. Polster makes the big time:

    Groundwork Laid, Growers Turn to Hemp in Colorado

    Colorado has set up an industrial hemp commission to write rules to register hemp farmers and charge them a fee to grow the crop commercially.

    “It’s something that can be copied and used nationally,” said Michael Bowman, a farmer in northeastern Colorado who sits on the state hemp commission. “We’re trying to build a legitimate industry.”

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