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November 06, 2013 10:31 AM UTC

Tipton: "I Never Voted To Shut Down Government"

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  • by: Colorado Pols

WEDNESDAY UPDATE: MSNBC's Steve Benen:

In this case, just about everything the audience member said was true. The dozens of repeal votes took place over more than six months, but when it comes to budget talks and the shutdown, the local voter got it right, and when Tipton said otherwise, the congressman was wrong. 
 
For that matter, it’s not “disingenuous” to be say Republican were “playing politics” when they shut down the government for no apparent reason, since that’s pretty much exactly what happened.
 
But just as important was Tipton saying, “I never voted to shut down government.” I emphasize this not just because the Colorado Republican is misleading the public, but also because I suspect this will be what nearly all House Republicans say over the next year, when they’re forced to defend their fiasco. [Pols emphasis]

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A brutal pair of town hall meetings held by Rep. Scott Tipton of Colorado recently illustrate the challenges for Republican members of Congress, after the last month's shutdown of the federal government for which the GOP has been overwhelmingly blamed by voters. Last week, we released video of Tipton's rocky Montrose town hall meeting one week ago last Saturday, in which angry constituents grilled Tipton on the shutdown, the Affordable Care Act, and proposed universal federal background checks for gun buyers.

Here's another clip of video from the same town hall tour, this one from the night before at Grand Junction City Hall. In this clip, a constituent challenges Tipton in some detail about the GOP-controlled House's intransigence with regard to budget negotiations, which led to the shutdown:

Here's a transcript of this memorable exchange:

AUDIENCE MEMBER: Congressman, once again you're only telling half the story. On March 23rd 2013, the Senate its budget resolution, and you could have started a conference committee right then. But for six months, Speaker Boehner refused to appoint the conferees. And the Senate Democr–I mean Senate Republicans, filibustered Harry Reid's attempt to appoint conferees. So instead of voting to defund Obamacare 46 times in that six months, we could have been having a conference committee. Why didn't we have a conference committee? Because it was your strategy to shut down the government and threaten default. And that's what this is all about, and you know it.

TIPTON: Well I'll correct you, because you are wrong.

AUDIENCE MEMBER: Good.

TIPTON: It was never my strategy to shut down the government. As I stated from the very beginning, I did not want to see government shut down. I never voted to shut down government. [Pols emphasis] And it is disingenuous to be asserting that only the Republican can play politics, and Democrats… [inaudible, applause]

The fact that the overwhelming majority of Americans, including a majority of Republicans, disapprove of the GOP-controlled House because of their behavior leading to the government shutdown makes this an especially noteworthy denial. In addition, polling shows growing personal vulnerability for Tipton in the wake of the shutdown. By repeatedly voting for resolutions tying operation of the government to conditions neither the Senate nor the President would ever accept, it is the judgment of most Americans that Tipton and his fellow House Republicans did indeed, repeatedly, "vote to shut down the government." Republicans demanded concessions in exchange for what the President and the public considered their basic fiduciary duties, and their choice to continue making such demands for two weeks after the shutdown is what prolonged it. It was only after the polls showed unrecoverable disaster for Republicans that they relented, ultimately passing a resolution with none of their demands.

Public opinion on the shutdown is sufficiently lopsided that it seems to us Tipton could only hope to get away with this kind of total fictionalization before the very friendliest of audiences. Yes, Grand Junction might be one such beet-red place.

Unfortunately, there are video cameras. And outside that friendly bubble, denial doesn't make Tipton look good.

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10 thoughts on “Tipton: “I Never Voted To Shut Down Government”

  1. Still not pinning them to the wall.  This is a good point, but technically the never voted to shut down the government, they just didn't vote on anything.  The way to pin them is to state that the Republican leadership blocked a vote on every Democratic plan sent to the house when the leadership knew it would pass.  As far as his BS argument that the Dems in the Senate were blocking stuff, doesn't pass muster.  The fact is that the Senate voted on every plan that the House proposed and voted them all down.  In contrast, the House never even voted on a plan because the leadership didn't want it to pass, which it knew it would.

     

    So, it's kind of that "undemocratic" stuff along with the government shut-down which pins all Republican butts to the wall.

    1. Thank you for being honest. The truth is that Tipton did not vote to shut down the government. Negotiations broke down and both sides refused to budge.

      Give the Obamacare train wreck a few months, and the shutdown will be an asset to the GOP not a hinderance.

      1. That's completely untrue, Modster. There was no negotiation to break down. There was just a demand to take back legislation that was duly passed, signed, approved by the Supreme Court, over which which the Republican presidential candidate who promised to repeal it was defeated by the guy with his name on it, and which the Republicans failed to repeal in spite of 41 attempts. 

        The whole thing was negotiated to death and subject to a referendum election long before the shut down loomed. It may not have been a direct vote to shut down the government but it was because the Democrats refused to cave to blatant extortion as a last ditch attempt by Republicans to get their way in spite of losing in the legislative process, in the courts and at the polls that the government shut down and 24 billion was wasted. If there was a moderate bone in your body you'd join all the true moderates in admitting that.

        But since Cuccinelli has definitely and repeatedly claimed that the Virginia gubernatorial election is absolutely a referendum on Obamacare, I suppose, in such an instance, we can count on you to admit that Obamacare is the legitimate choice of the Virginia electorate if he loses?

      2. And how did Social Security work out for you, Moderatus?

        PPACA, aka Obamacare, shall be fine. Medicare, too, had glitches when it rolled out.

        Talk to me by the end of March and see whose tune you're whistling – the trainwreck or the complete destruction of the Republican Party. 

  2. That's why we refer to Tipton as "Where's Scotty?" in Pueblo. He'll do a town hall in conservative Pueblo West, but not old Pueblo, where the Democrats live. I suppose we scare him.

  3. When you're running away from something this hard, this soon after you thought it was a good idea, in a place as single-minded as Grand Junction . . .

    . . . that tells you all anyone needs to know about how colossal a disaster this was, AND how likely it is to be tried again in the near future.  

    Reasonable people should take some small comfort in Mr. Tipton's denials and lies . . . 

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