Thursday Open Thread

"Part of resilience is deciding to make yourself miserable over something that matters, or deciding to make yourself miserable over something that doesn't matter."

–Elizabeth Edwards 

19 Community Comments, Facebook Comments

  1. MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

    Look! Squirrel! Shaking hands with Communists!  Oh, wait…

    • notaskinnycooknotaskinnycook says:

      Those are great photos michaelBowman. Maybe someone should blow them up, frame them and hang them in the House chamber to teach the spoiled children who work there how to play nicely with people who have "the other letter" after their names. 

  2. dwyer says:

    This is war, and winning this battle is crucial. 

    Regarding the "next man" theory, Dems could use it, as well.  What if the baker refused to make a cake for Catholics, or Missouri Synod Lutherans, or anyone with black hair because…well you know, or how about for a bar mitzvah. 

    I agree there is a message to deliver, clearly, loudly and repeatedly.  Spell it out.

     

     

     

    - See more at: http://coloradopols.com/diary/52379/tuesday-open-thread-44#comments

    I think the above is from Miss Jane.  I agree with the analysis.  The problem is the dems don't have a good way to "get the message out.'  How should it be done?  I am open to suggestions.  But, the republicans can and do and are appropriating the public airwaves, both locally and nationally, to get their message out.  On the cake case, I have not heard any rebuttal, except here on the blog.

    • Miss Jane says:

      Thanks dwyer.

      I'm in Colorado Springs.  The daily paper is inundated with pro conservative letters and columns going on and on about "freedoms!".  We did have a couple of good letters this week. Both writers said that using public resources paid for by taxpayers to run one's business obligate the business to serve the public.  One letter stated "baking a cake is not a religion." and the other said "Religion cannot be misused as a tool for bigotry in public, only in private.  

      But, as you say, getting the message out is difficult.  It takes time, effort and money.  Since working with dems can be a bit like herding cats and baby chickies this makes things harder.  I would hope that the state and county chairs could figure this out.  It would also be helpful if some of the constituencies democrats serve would step up to the plate. But they would need to be asked first.

      There does need to be an ongoing educational effort to counter the psuedo libertarian nonsense that passes for conservative thought these days. Since many dems are educators you'd think some of them could come up with a framework.  Quietly talking to friends and neighbors is fine, but sometimes you need the equivalent of a bull horn.  

      • dwyer says:

        Thank you so much for your thoughtful reply.  The Denver Post has a blog section.  I have commented from time to time.  It has unlimited space and so one's letter does not have to compete for space as a Letter to the Editor does.

        However, the Letters to the Editors reach a much wider audience.  I will write a letter to DP.  I urge others to follow up on your suggestions.

  3. MichaelBowmanMichaelBowman says:

    I'm lovin' me some Pope Francis this morning. Move over, Scrooge. There's a new Sheriff in town.

    • horseshit GOP front grouphorseshit GOP front group says:

       

      As a graduate of Catholic school and one of the millions of prodigal catholics, I really, REALLY like what I see in the character of Pope Francis.  I don't think he will fare so well in changing such an archaic institution but I wish him well nonetheless.

      Call him butter, because he's on a roll.

  4. ZappateroZappatero says:

    Mary Landrieu (D-Barely) to traingulate against Obama/Obamacare/ACA in reelection bid. 

    Which direction will Michael Bennet and Mark Udall take in Udall's campagn to earn another $1Million+ as U.S. Senator from CO? For instance, Udall has been pledging to cut Social Security almost since before Obama's inauguration, a true triangulatory move the betrays the policy preferences and politics of his home state.

    CO Dems will most likely have to forever wonder what it would be like if their Democratic Represenatives and Senators were full-throated, unapologetic legislators like Elizabeth Warren.

    • gertie97 says:

      That's easy, Zap. If they were full-throated liberals, they wouldn't be senators from Colorado.

      • MADCO says:

        They would be from MA, NH, and sometimes MN or WA.

      • BlueCat says:

        True. But you don't have to be a full throated liberal to find sensible ways of supporting ACA. Bennet isn't running this time but can probably be counted on to be supportive because he's definitely on Obama's team. 

        Distancing won't help Dems much anyway. That just makes it look like you agree with Rs that it's something to be ashamed of and you're sorry you voted f for it. Why should middling voters vote for an apologetic D when they can vote for an R who never supported it instead? 

        Ds need to get aggressive and proud in their messaging about the positives (and there are many) of ACA.

        • Miss Jane says:

          It is Louisiana and she is a Landrieu.  Perhaps people want to vote for her, they just need a reason why they can justify it.  She has been doing this for a while and can better afford to trumpet ACA after the election. 

          • BlueCat says:

            Landrieu is kind of a special case. Was speaking in more general terms. If we could keep a majority without keeping Landrieu that would be fine with me, too.

            Having trouble posting. if this appears multiple times …sorry.

  5. Diogenesdemar says:

    Sounds to me like maybe that Old Testament diety has finally gotten a little fed up with all those liberals and their deviant lifestyles . . . 

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/13/science/earth/as-quakes-shake-oklahoma-scientists-eye-oil-and-gas-industry.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

    . . . in Oklahoma ?!?    Repent, sinners – while there's still time !!!

     

  6. Diogenesdemar says:

    Don't look now, but guess who's just decided to govern a lot more like our Republicans . . .

    http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/12/12/one-way-to-handle-smog-lower-the-standards/?partner=rss&emc=rss

    . . . I think maybe Richard Nixon is finally beginning to have an impact.

  7. Diogenesdemar says:

    So, . . . for Moderatus, and all of Colorado's other gunner wannabe's who "need" but can't buy 30-round firearm magazines anymore, is surgery their only remaining alternative . . . ????

    http://coloradopols.com/diary/52488/do-antibiotics-affect-getting-pregnant

  8. nancycronk says:

    Popular Arapahoe County Sheriff Grayson Robinson announced his retirement today, giving six weeks notice, and naming his successor, UnderSheriff David Walcher. Robinson's retirement letter did not say, "I'm going to Florida to play shuffleboard" or "spending more time with my grandchildren". Instead, it read, "Leaving office prior to the end of my third term has always been an important element of my very deliberate and well-considered succession plan".  http://www.arapahoegov.com/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/1126

    Robinson is hugely popular in Arapahoe County among community leaders in both parties. Readers may recall he arrested his successor, fellow Republican Patrick Sullivan, beefing up his image as a "nonpartison law-and-order swashbuckler". http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/11/29/former-arapahoe-county-sheriff-arrested-on-drug-charge/

    Robinson appears apolitical every time I have seen him. He is very professional and serious as he carries out his duties as the highest ranking Official in Arapahoe County. Will Sheriff Grayson Robinson cash in his substantial political capital and run for higher office? Time will tell.

     

  9. nancycronk says:

    One more thing – 

    He's been positioning himself as a moderate and getting media attention "as an independent thinker" for some time. http://www.denverpost.com/ci_22427943

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