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February 25, 2014 06:27 AM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

  • 26 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

"Our ignorance of history causes us to slander our own times."

–Gustave Flaubert

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26 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

  1. These are the folks circulating the initiative to allow communities to decide whether they will allow fracking. Hick hates it. So does the Oil and Gas industry. So it’s truly a bipartisan effort.

     

    http://localcontrolcolorado.org/

     

    Local Empowerment

    Empowers cities and counties to set their own standards providing Coloradans with regional flexibility in regard to fracking and other highly industrial forms of Oil and Gas Development.

    Legal Defense

    Protects communities from Oil and Gas Industry & state sponsored
    lawsuits that seek to strip citizens of their right to protect their families
    and property.

     

    People First

    Ensures that the interests of millions of Coloradans are represented, over Big Oil and Gas.

    1. This explains why I've heard so many ads from the drill-shill front group "Coloradans For Responsible Energy Development" on the radio lately. Shameless "Did you know fracking is actually awesome?!?" sort of stuff. 

  2. Many are upset at the welfare and other payments to the poor. Corporate welfare however is met with a deafening silence:

    State and local governments have awarded at least $110 billion in taxpayer subsidies to business, with 3 of every 4 dollars going to fewer than 1,000 big corporations, the most thorough analysis to date of corporate welfare revealed today.

    Boeing’s $13.2 billion is a bit more than its pretax profits for the last two years. It is also equals a stunning 70 percent of the $18.2 billion of equity owned by Boeing shareholders.
     

    1. I think the state and local tax and business poaching from other states is the unfortunate downside of a federal system.  Is it crazy?  Absolutely.  Any ideas to improve it?

       

      1. So it seems our largest and most profitable corps don't hesitate to TAKE from taxpayers, who have almost no say in these sweetheart deals. 

        First I'd remind ppl that the CEOs and CFOs and owners of these Corporate Takers are always saying the poor and unemployed shouldn't get any govt help, but should instead "buck up" and work just a little harder and retrain themselves for some other job they may or may not get (that is if the "Job Creators" create it. 

        As for a solution, these Big Time Takers should instruct their execs to quit demanding and refuse any and all taxpayer subsidies. If they need to take from me to turn a profit, then they are obviously incompetent at their job and probably should be on that very same unemployment line as those they ridicule. 

        1. Actually, the corporate shake down artists are not saying what you attribute to them.  An awful lot of government largesse has gone to Obama and Dem "bundlers", (I am thinking about you Pat Stryker) who are politically in total sinc with you.  

          If you think it is a Republican vs. Dem thing, you are missing the boat.  It is a "governing class" vs. "governed" thing in my view.

    2. Here is my idea on loopholes to eliminate.  

      Cap the amount of interest that can be deducted on a mortgage to the interest associated with a $200,000 mortgage.  There is a lot of money that would get freed up and it would eliminate the perverse system where people who rent because they can't afford to buy subsidize those that buy.  It would also be a check on crazy loans and make housing more affordable.

      Put the money raised in escrow until you reform entitlements.

      1. How about those who got into homes thorugh no/low interest, liar loans and then gamed the system through default, faux cooperation to forestall forclosure, then bankruptcy and inevitable eviction … essentially free housing for 2-5 years as the process runs its course.  Responsible renters have been subsidizing these irresponsible no-equity "owners", especially during the last downturn.  Indeed, life isn't fair.  

  3. In the Sad, but True department,  

    Gary Kasparov, former chess champion and current human rights activist in Russia Tweets:

    "I've said it before, but if Barack Obama had been president instead of Ronald Reagan, I'd still be a citizen of the Soviet Union."

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/02/23/Chess-Champion-Kasparov-I-d-Still-Be-A-Soviet-Citizen-If-Obama-Had-Been-President-Instead-Of-Reagan

    He also tweets:

    Have to share a friend's joke, "They should take all the Lenin statues they just tore down in Ukraine & put them up at Obamacare centers!"

    Barack, Hillary and John's great work seems to be getting noticed.

    1. Sauce #5

      1 cup ketchup
      1/2 cup cider vinegar
      1/3 cup brown sugar
      1 tablespoon worchestershire sauce
      1 tablespoon pork rub
      1/4-1/2 tsp chipotle powder

      In a pot on the stove, mix all ingredients and bring to a boil until solids are dissolved. Remove from heat.

      1. Sounds good, Ralphie; kinda like the way my mom taught me to make it, but she used Tobasco Red instead of chipotle powder (white people didn't know what that was back then). Gotta try yours; barbecue season is coming up.  

    1. Very interesting. I think we all know Tanc is only interested in being a D list rightie celeb these days, not in the actual work of holding any office, much less Governor.  He knows Hick is going to win in any case so there's no danger of that but a campaign is a lot of hard work and at least some personal expense. Gracefully handing off the job of losing to someone else would sure save him a lot of trouble and he could pretend to be all statesmanlike and unselfish while doing it. Not that he's ever cared about appearing less scumbaggy in the past.  And not that anyone will buy altruism coming from this professional clown but, hey, Whatever.

      1. Funny part was he was only 2% behind Udall in the polls.

        He is not going to be at the debate tonight and I did not see an announcment that he had officially dropped out.

  4. For those that might believe otherwise, There is no such thing as a safe gun

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/25/man-shoots-himself_n_4853983.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

    A man from Independence Township, Michigan, accidentally shot himself to death on Monday while teaching his girlfriend about gun safety, the Oakland Press reports.

    .

    This isn't the first time a gun safety demonstration has gone wrong. In January 2013, 18-year-old Florida resident Alexander Xavier Shaw died doing a similar demonstration. Richard M. McLean, a 22-year-old from Michigan, died in a similar fashion in June 2012. Missouri resident James Looney, 40, was also teaching his girlfriend about gun safety when he shot himself in the head in September 2009.

    But I'm sure the RMGO's solution will be "more guns", like a good guy with a gun coulda prevented this?

    1. The Colorado Independent has even more shocking information about gun deaths just in Colorado:

      As Colorado University’s Gun Dialog project reported at the end of last year, shooting deaths in Colorado have outpaced car-accident deaths since 2009, and in 2012, gun-shot suicides alone overtook car-accident deaths. The project reported that 457 Coloradans died in car crashes and 532 shot themselves to death.

      According to the national Gun Violence Archive, there have been 6,061 incidents of gun violence in the States since January 1st, resulting in 1,554 gun-shot deaths and 2,598 injuries.

      http://www.coloradoindependent.com/146191/colorado-gun-violence-a-weekend-report

      Why am I not surprised that gun deaths outpace auto-related deaths?  Guns are designed to kill, cars aren't (on purpose at least).

       

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