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August 26, 2014 06:32 AM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

"Yesterday's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why."

–Hunter S. Thompson

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47 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

    1. OK. Here's one to file under Latino demographic take over of Arizona can't come soon enough:

      WASHINGTON — The Republican primary to succeed Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) will indicate whether voters wish to nominate a candidate that Brewer herself supports, or one that would take the state in a more conservative direction.

      In the third-to-last primary day of the year, Arizona voters also will decide between a state representative who is concerned about undocumented immigrants bringing Ebola to the United States across the southern border, a state representative who mistook YMCA campers for undocumented minors and a rancher who said Democrats are behind the majority of the nation's mass shootings.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/25/arizona-governors-race_n_5708875.html

      You read that right. Jan Brewer's choice isn't conservative enough.

      1. An embarrassment of riches for the GOP.  Well, at the least the embarrassment part.   But what could you possibly expect from the state party which gave the world Evan Mecham as governor…….

      1. Probably something with a homersexhual reference.  He seems to find it deliciously naughty to take on a name from a group he hates and fears. 

  1. Udall won an Emmy last night!

    Best supporting role for a lost President.  He won 99% of the votes.  Obama could not be there to present.  He was lobbying some of the voters.

     

  2. GOTP Republicans don't give a damn about service members, unless they're fighting a made-up war for no other purpose than greed, or coming home in a flag-draped coffin, so the Chickenhawks have something to pretend to feel sad (and noble, and brave) about.    The ones who are lucky enough to come home, they couldn't care less about. They cost money, you see. And the GOTP has proven that living veterans mean nothing to them. 

    1. The GOTP's attitude regarding uniformed political props — er, I mean, veterans — is precisely the same as their attitude toward children: Once you're "out," you're ON YOUR OWN.

    1. Welcome to Pols, you ignorant, pin-headed, twit. Nice to have another mental midget on board. Moderatus and AC have been carrying the load for a while and they could use some back-up. So far, the few comments you have made indicate that you are another talking points spewing, hateful, xenophobic, ignoramus like your predecessors. Good to have you on board….enjoy the ride….

  3. Overreach vs. A Sound Case…NY Times:

    Mr. Perry and his lawyers have had substantial success in the court of public opinion, contending that the charges represent an overreach that has more to do with politics than the law. But Mr. Perry’s critics note that the grand jury indictment was secured by a special prosecutor who was appointed by a Republican judge and has no clear political leanings or ties to the Travis County courthouse. And some in Texas say the most important political context was the animus Mr. Perry harbored toward the district attorney’s office that, the prosecution alleges, led him to jump on a drunken-driving arrest to improperly attempt to force Ms. Lehmberg from office. The special prosecutor, Michael McCrum, a former assistant United States attorney during the George Bush administration, told reporters last week that he had a sound case against Mr. Perry.

    1. I disagree with much in this story. Especially characterizing the recent governments as moderate ones seeking reconciliation or anything like it. Bibi is hard core and aligned with the even harder core and has never had any intention of allowing a truly sovereign Palestinian state on Israel's border. He said as much himself, that Israel would never cede control of security on it's border. Any Arab state could not be allowed full sovereignty if Israel insists on retaining the right to go in for security purposes whenever it pleases. 

      Recent governments have worked overtime to create preemptive facts on the ground to prevent the possibility of  the formation of a viable sovereign Palestinian state while they play for time in hopes of I don't know what. That the Palestinians will fade away? They've lost no opportunity to humiliate Abbas, the most moderate option, destroying his credibility as someone who could deliver on any of the Palestinians' aspirations, thereby strengthening the hand of Hamas, a truly sinister enemy. 

      Hamas and most of the Arab world may deeply hate Jews but I firmly reject any notion that all international objections to Israeli policies, policies which have not exactly been successful or even mildly constructive, are based on anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism isn't to blame for the fact that most of the two thousand who have perished on one side are civilians, hundreds of them children, while less than half a dozen civilian casualties including a single young child have been suffered by the other side. It is what it is. Media shows it because that's what it is and the world sees what it sees. 

      Some may certainly be influenced by anti-Semitism but anti-Semitism is hardly required to be aghast by the lopsidedness of the suffering, regardless of who is most at fault for it. It certainly isn't required to see Bibi as an evil SOB. I always have and I'm Jewish and most definitely not of the self-loathing variety.  There's a big difference between being Jewish and being Israeli. 

      There was no such thing a state of  Israel throughout my ancestors' history in Europe. Israeli culture has pretty much nothing to do with my cultural roots in Eastern European Jewish culture. We never heard of things like falafel or hummus or anything like that until well past my early childhood. We didn't do Israeli dances at weddings when I was a child. Israel was a brand new country with a brand new reconstructed spoken language, a modern creation, bearing only the tiniest resemblance to the languages of European Jewry, Yiddish for Ashkenazi and Ladino for Sephardic. That's the culture American Jews come from, not Israel's created mid 20th century culture. For the better part of the last 2 thousand years Jews were a no larger than a 10% minority in Palestine.

      It's a mistake to see all objections to Israeli policy or the Israeli government at any given time as directed against Jewishness.  We were Jewish before there was a state of Israel.  People may certainly object to Israeli policy without my acusing them of hating Jews. 

      1. Well said, BC. Though the author is a talented writer, there is nothing really new in his arguments. And, anyone who suggests that Western MSM coverage of this area of the world and the conflict isn't decidedly pro-Israel is nothing more than a propagandist. 

      2. Well-written, BC. My ancestors on my mother's side – all ethnically Ashkenazi Jews, most converted to Christianity or practicing secularism, no relationship with Israel.

        The converse of "hate Israeli policy, love Jews"?

        Right wing evangelicals love Israel, hate (or at least have contempt for) Jews. This includes Gordon Klingenschmitt, who along with most of the evangelical right,regularly exhorts his followers to "Pray for Israel", l.e., support apartheid policies in Palestine. However, all this is in preparation, in their minds, to fulfill a Christian prophecy laying the groundwork for Jesus' second coming,and subsequent conversion, and the unconverted – Jews, Muslims, atheists, the rest of us – going to hell.

        I also see the "Love Israel, hate Jews"attitude on Patriot and Supremacist sites.

        1. Jewish hawks lying down with these fleas has always turned my stomach. They only support Israel because of their End of Days fantasies which include everyone, including Jews who have fulfilled the prophetic requirement of returning to Israel, who don't accept Jesus as their Savior being condemned to to eternal damnation.

  4. Wray, Colorado and the showdown between Colorado and the utterly-failed War on Drugs made the NYT this weekend.  50,000 souls each and every year lose their life to an epileptic episode.  One every 10 minutes.  To put that in perspective, every three days we fill up the equivalent of a commercial airliner like the one shot down over the Ukraine with epileptic patients and let them die.  We just as well be shooting them out of the sky. 

    Cannabidiols have shown great promise for substantially reducing (and in some cases eliminating) seizures.  The problem?  That Great Social Experiment: Prohibition – and an willfully deceptive government agency, the DEA, who perpetuate the myths and lies about the cannabis plant.

    So spare me the "hair on fire" time the Repubs are wasting in never-ending hearings on Benghazi, the fake IRS scandal, rattling the chain of war and bitching about the vacation a certain black man took on Martha's vineyard.  Real people (your constitutents) and real lives are affectted by Congressional ineptness. We give you a six-figure salary to solve problems.  Do your job.

    (Here's the video embedded in the story)

     

      1. We do have some champions, Jared and Perlmutter to be specific.  The Stanley Bros. are wonderful, caring yourng men on a mission.  In case you missed it, the NYT ran a great article on the marijuana refugees settling in Colorado, namely El Paso County.  Of course, the El Paso Einstein, has completely missed the opportunity to take a pro-life position on the subject and open up, at the very least, access to medical marijuana for children anywhere in the US.  Why would he care about the 50,000 people that die each year from these epileptic episodes that could be healed by a product produced by his constituents when he has so many other important things to deal with?

        I hope to God Irv Halter beats him over the head on this every chance he gets.  Irv: El Paso county narrowly approved Amendment 64.  Don't run away from this.

        1. The issue of hemp, particularly its medicinal uses, has great potential as a bipartisan, crossover issue. I've seen gunhead recall voters here in Pueblo get pretty excited about hemp farming.

          I suppose that's wht it would take to get the DEA to downgrade cannabis from a Schedule 1 to Schedule 2 or lower substance. Republican legislators would have to call for it. I have no idea how likely that is.

          The FDA is evaluating down-scheduling cannabis. If the FDA decides to recommend downgrading,the DEA could follow suit. Or its head, Leonhardt, could continue to stonewall it,in which case Obama could proceed with an executive order. 

    1. Now, now…you know that the esteemed Dr. Herbert Kleber, of the Columbia University Medical Center and the New York State Psychiatric Institute, would frown on all that, as VICE reports:

      VICE has found that many of the researchers who have advocated against legalizing pot have also been on the payroll of leading pharmaceutical firms with products that could be easily replaced by using marijuana. When these individuals have been quoted in the media, their drug-industry ties have not been revealed.

      Take, for example, Dr. Herbert Kleber of Columbia University. Kleber has impeccable academic credentials, and has been quoted in the press and in academic publications warning against the use of marijuana, which he stresses may cause wide-ranging addiction and public health issues. But when he's writing anti-pot opinion pieces for CBS News, or being quoted by NPR and CNBC, what's left unsaid is that Kleber has served as a paid consultant to leading prescription drug companies, including Purdue Pharma (the maker of OxyContin), Reckitt Benckiser (the producer of a painkiller called Nurofen), and Alkermes (the producer of a powerful new opioid called Zohydro).

       

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