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September 19, 2014 11:44 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

"One is never so dangerous when one has no shame, than when one has grown too old to blush."

–Marquis de Sade

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    1. In the interests of bumping the anti-Islamic filth a bit futher down the page, and also stimulating some actual political debate:

      What questions would you ask the candidates for Governor?

      For Senate?

      For CD3?

      1. for governor…Would you support legislation that would encourage equitable negotiation by making make surface rights and mineral rights co-equal, so that just compensation for nuisance would be available to surface owners, ?

        for senate…Would you support legislation that would end all energy development subsidies for fossil fuels , including oil, gas, and coal?

        for CD3…Would you support legislation that would end all energy development subsidies for fossil fuels , including oil, gas, and coal?

        1. Ask if they think there's a strong enough possibility that all those grieving families are lying to warrant investigating the possibility that it's a hoax. Otherwise they can just say, hey, we never said it was a hoax. We just said it's an interesting theory.  Free speech! Communism! Arglebargle!

    1. You're up a little early aren't you, turd blossom?  Why don't you do a little study on the Wahhabi's this weekend and then get back to us.  Try to connect a few dots, K? Bonus points if you can convince me that all Christians practice 'Christianity'…

       

  3. Isil is Islamic. Islamic people live in an Islamic state. Islamics are not ISIL.

    Or are you promoting the idea that all Muslim people, all Islamic people, are terrorists?

    1. Well , hasn't that been the right wing meme from day one? Isn't that why so many on the right refer to Obama as a muslim? Apparently ac is as bigoted as the people he supprts.

      1. Maybe troll-op is just repeatng talking points.  Does anyone think troll cares if its bullshit is consistent, logical, factual, sound or offered with integrity?  Its job here is to spew crap.  That's all it does, all it has ever done, all it is capable of doing by all accounts.  

          1. PS. Muslim leaders in Great Britain and elsewhere are asking that the world stop referring to these people as ISIS or the Islamic State because what they practice is completely contrary to the teachings of Islam.  

            Bringing Israel and Israeliness into the discussion kind of confuses things because being Israeli has nothing to do with practicing Judaism and about 90% of Jewish Israelis don't. Then what makes them Jewish? It's a little confusing because it's kind of a religious/ethnic hybrid. Think of it as like being an ethnic Italian Catholic. You can stop being a practicing Catholic but you're still an ethnic Italian. Being Jewish is kind of a twofer. Being Israeli  was invented about 15 minutes ago in historic time. 

            Taking violence in religious writings as proof of  those religions being exactly as violent as their writings today is also not very accurate. The Bible, especially the oldest part of the Jewish Bible but also parts of the New Testament, are chock full of violence with the Jewish Bible featuring many exhortations to wipe out gentile groups and take their land and to execute people in various unpleasant ways for all kinds of infractions, including being disobedient to your parents. There are even passages in the New Testament where Jesus, generally viewed as all peace and love, recommends taking up the sword. 

            Pretty sure Jewish religious writings can match the Quran for exhortations to smiting whole groups of folks (without even offering to allow them to convert first as being Jewish is very much an ethnic thing in the Bible) but nobody uses that as proof that Judaism isn't really a religion but a plan for world domination. Correction. Hardly anybody.

            1. I like that….I am ethnically Jewish, got a bunch of rabbis in the lineage, like to think I have the core Jewish social values thing going on, too, "Make the world a better place" – my great great uncle from Vienna reportedly had a saying, "Justify the space you take up and the air you breathe".

              Sounds like Jewish guilt for sure – who else would feel they need to justify anything?

              I've been to a few Jewish temple services and many celebrations, and pretty sure the actual religion isn't a fit for me. I'm just fine with my Creator most days, and she/he is fine with me.

              So I'll take the extra melanin, the social values, the love of scholarship, and leave the plan for world domination on the table.

  4. How did American politics become so disfunctional? Newt Ghttp://www.salon.com/2014/09/20/when_the_republicans_went_insane_newt_gingrich_fox_news_grover_norquist_and_the_roots_of_todays_shameful_intransigence/?utm_source=huffpost_politics&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=pubexchange_articleingrich:

  6. I'm in Central Park this morning readying to march for what is billed as the largest march for climate in the history of our nation.  I'm not sure how many people are here, but the park is both 'packed' and 'buzzing'.  The UN General Assembly is in town this week – and there are corresponding events each day they are in session to bring awareness to this global threat.

    It's worthy to note that one of the very first global leaders to take on the subject of climate change wasn't a wide-eyed socialist, it was Margaret Thatcher.  Here is a five minute clip of speech she gave on the subject over three decades ago.  There is a 36 minute version of her speech before the UN that is top shelf.

    Here's to a pleasant, troll-free Sunday…

     

      1. On any planet covered by 70% water on the surface, no country is not an island . . . 

        Someone needs to show this planet's GOPFoxKochsackers a globe . . . 

        1. True, Dio, but our landlocked state experiences climate change differently than one which is actually physically losing parts of its landmass due to sea level rise each year. 

          We get wildfires, drought, flooding, with co-occurring toxic pollution from drilling leaks. More  frequent and damaging tornados and hail are also climate-change related, as anything that puts more moisture (from evaporating oceans) and  more chaos into the weather system contributes. 

  8. Interesting story here…take a look at the existing and proposed export facilities on the map in the story. The "Looming threat" they are discussing is sea level rise as a result of Climate Change. Remember though…this is from Motley Fool…their perspective is from that of investors.

    How This Looming Threat Could Devastate the U.S. Energy Industry

    By Adam Galas

     

     

     

    There is an impending energy crisis looming that almost no one has heard of, but could have dire consequences for America's energy industry.

    According to Tim Osborn of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and Steve Gill, senior scientist at the agency's Center for Operational Oceanographic Products and Services, by 2100 much of southeastern Louisiana will be under 4.3 feet of water. This area faces the fastest rate of sea level rise in the world.

    To me, it is the impact on the natural gas industry that will be the most dramatic….the Gulf Coast is the site of the vast majority of proposed export facilities for oil and gas….the industry is counting on the dvelopment of the export market to boost nat gas prices…

     

    To put those numbers in perspective consider this: Grand Isle, Louisiana, which is 50 miles south of New Orleans, has reported annual increases in sea level of 9.24 millimeters, which is a third of an inch per year — more than quadruple that of Key West, Florida.

    Things are even worse in other areas. According to Mr. Osborn, "[W]e have rates of 11.2 millimeters along the south shore of Lake Pontchartrain — the metro New Orleans area. And inside the city we have places with almost a half-inch per year."

    To put it another way, every hour an area of land the size of a football field, 16 square miles per year, becomes submerged.

    What's causing this?
    While many people may initially think climate change is to blame for this slow-motion disaster in the making, in fact that's only partly the explanation. Southeast Louisiana has an average elevation of just three feet above sea level and, according to this study, much of New Orleans, whose port adds $37 billion to the U.S. economy each year (and supports 160,500 jobs), will largely be underwater within decades.

    get this…

    The land that's currently sinking is home to some 50% of the country's oil refineries as well as a network of pipelines that serves 90% of the nation's offshore oil production. In total, 30% of our oil and gas supply faces disruption in the coming decades if something isn't done. 

    http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/09/20/how-this-looming-threat-could-devastate-the-us-ene.aspx

     

    2. I love this line:

      There is an impending energy crisis looming that almost no one has heard of, but could have dire consequences for America's energy industry.

      Right. The reason you haven't "heard of" it is that the Koch brothers' friends have been lying to you about climate change. If you stick your head in the sinking sand next to the rising ocean long enough, you drown, idiots.

       

       

      1. I was there today as well as several other Coloradans. Official estimate is now 310,000. Being called the largest social march in the last decade. Very inspiring event 

        2.  A worthy endeavor. Tomorrow it spills over into lower Manhattan- you guessed it – Wall St.. An interview prior to the march w/ Naomi Klein (author, former financial sector VP) on Democracy Now! (Garnered from Truthout; More articles) as she discusses “win-win” solution of new model for capitalism in profiting from green solutions to climate change.

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