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November 06, 2014 06:29 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

  • 35 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

"Make the best use of what is in your power, and take the rest as it happens."

–Epictetus

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35 thoughts on “Thursday Open Thread

  1. KAGAN HOLDS ON IN HD-3! Odds that Dems hold the House grow. In the Senate, it's gonna come down to Jahn's recount and WTF is up in Adams County. If we save Judy Solano we can save the Senate.

    Hope springs eternal! In Colorado, the Democrats are STILL STANDING UP.

    1. What am I missing, the way I’m looking at it, the dems lost Zenzinger and Nicholson, which puts them one seat down, assuming they hold Jahn’s sheet.

        1. I know but the numbers still aren’t adding up for me. On my sheet, I have Dems ahead 10-7 in the seats not up for election. Including Jahn’s win, I have the republicans ahead 11-7 in the seats that are up this year. So my count is that the GOP is still ahead 18-17, even if Jahn wins.

          1. Dems Seats not up for election: 14,17,18,21,25,26,28,29,31,33

            GOP seats not up for election: 4,8,10,12,23,27,35

            Dem seats retained: 5,20,22,32,34

            GOP seats retained: 1,2,6,7,9,13,15,30

            Dem seats lost to GOP: 16,19,24

            GOP seats lost to Dems: 3,11

            Net: GOP + 1

          1. It was a wash for the ammo-sexuals:  they traded Herpin and Rivera for Neville and Waters-Woods.

            The more things change, the more they stay the same.

  2. Solano has to win the Senate seat in Adams County.  She's the turnkey.  If she loses, everything goes to GOP; if she wins, everything goes to Dems.  Adams County is the shocker in this election.  Of course Cheri Jahn has to withstand the recount.

  3. Cory Gardner: The More You Know, The Less You Like

    That seemed like an obvious way to attack Gardner, and I was assured by top campaign officials that it was going to be their strategy.  But, they didn't do that.  Instead, of course, they focused on Gardner's Personhood stance (without even mentioning "Personhood") and little else.

    Why didn't they brand Gardner for what he is — a leading member of the most despised institution in America, the GOP House?  In fact, he is apparently one of the ten most "conservative" (read: radical) members of the worst Congress in US history?  Why didn't they remind voters of Gardner's role in causing the government shutdown (wasting billions of dollars), the near default of the US debt (that still resulted in a downgrade), the never-ending votes to repeal Obamacare (that is actually working as planned), the obstruction of immigration reform that was actually passed with bipartisan votes in the US Senate, etc., etc.?

    Democratic messaging has been disastrous since the election of President Obama.  I remember, and empathize with the woman who told President Obama that she was "exhausted" attempting to defend his Administration.  It's as if we have Pat Caddell as our media advisor (I couldn't resist, BC).

    We faced a nasty electorate on Tuesday.  Bob Beauprez was not that much better a candidate than he was when he was trounced in his last race.  Andrew Romanoff was not that worse a candidate than Joe Miklosi who only lost by 2 points in 2012.  We knew that going into this election.  That made it even more important to establish a clear, simple message that Gardner (and Coffman) caused the gridlock that everyone hates and should be thrown out.

    Democrats must tout their successes in a way that resonates with voters.  Is that really so hard?

     

    1. The Guardian (and others, too) with some interesting options for Senator Udall before he leaves office: expose the Bush-era torture report that has been held under wraps by both parties.  The Senator was an effective, behind-the-scenes champion on NSA and CIA overreach.

      But Udall’s loss doesn’t have to be all bad. The lame-duck transparency advocate now has a rare opportunity to truly show his principles in the final two months of his Senate career and finally expose, in great detail, the secret government wrongdoing he’s been criticizing for years. On his way out the door, Udall can use congressional immunity provided to him by the Constitution’s Speech and Debate clause to read the Senate’s still-classified 6,000-page CIA torture report into the Congressional record – on the floor, on TV, for the world to see.

      1. Have we lost our ever-loving minds?  MRAPS for Yuma County? M-16's for the Wray Police Force?  There ARE days that Rand Paul looks like an option…(brief moments, but 'moments'). 

        Military-Grade Equipment Distributed to Colorado Police

        The 1033 Program, authorized by Congress in the early 90s, was initially designed to transfer excess military property to federal and state agencies for use in counter-drug activities. In 1997, under Congress' National Defense Authorization Act, the program spread to local law enforcement agencies.

        Since then, law enforcement agencies have used the program to stockpile everything from rifles and armored personnel carriers to tents and cold-weather gear.

        1. Pretty soon, we will see headlines here like in other parts of the country–local police using Urban Assault Vehicles to enforce code violations, flash-bang grenades used to conduct routine search warrants, and military-style gear and weaponry used to suppress protest.  Oh, wait–the last one already happened (see:  Occupy Denver).

          Brave New World, indeed.

          1. Who was that Republican Congressman who was shooting a watermelon back in the late '90's as part of his investigation into the death of Vince Foster?  What the hell was his name?  (He was the late 20th century version of Darrell Issa.)

    2. Apparently Yertle has promised to bring up a bill to outlaw abortion after the 20 week of pregnancy.  (Under Roe v. Wade, legislatures can ban abortions in the third trimester w/ exceptions of the health of the mother.)  This attempts to move the date up one month so it will be an attempt to generate a case for the Supreme Court to revisit the trimester scheme implemented in 1973.

      It will be interesting (but not dispositive) to see where our new Senator goes on voting for this bill.  Not dispositive because Obama will likely veto it and give the pro-choice community an opportunity to raise $$$ and make noise in anticipation of '16.

  4. Apparently Don Suppes can go back to using public facilities as benies for himself and the other council members.  Its good to be the King (of a small incorporated water district that no one further away than Olathe has heard of. 

  5. Will the Dems try a more populist message in 2016?  It probably could only help; but, thanks to the continuing stranglehold of DLCists on the national party, it seems unlikely at the national level.

  6. Post-Election Rumors:

    1.  Claire McCaskill not looking forward to being part of minority and may not seek re-election.

    2.  Pelosi wants to keep her leadership position.

    Both good news for Rs in 2016.

  7. My Obamacare repeal and impeachment re-up prediction is true. 

    Now let's see if Obama and elected D's in DC can rebut the constant and flagrant lies of Republicans and AC regarding their newly improved and budget improving health care system. It's not tyranny, it's just a little better way to provide health care to deserving (that is, all) Americans.

    And since Michael Bennet doesn't have any more campaigns to ruin, maybe even he can say something good about Obamacare and progressive policy in general.

  8. I was just looking over the voting totals at The Newspaper, and Udall and Gardner ended up 3 percentage points apart (it may close a little more, but I think most of the votes are in now).  Gardner got 48.7% and Udall got 45.7%.  This means the polls weren't off nearly as much as we thought on election night (I think the avergae of polls was predicting Gardner by 1.5% or so).  

     

    Similarly, Hickenlooper is up by 2.4%, so the polls were right on.  Democratic votes did come in strong at the end – just not quite strong enough for Udall.  🙁

     

    1. One thing about the gubernatorial race struck me as not very odd:  Both Ways correctly can claim to have come close to winning but he ended up with about 47%. If you combine 37% which Tancredo got in 10 with the 10% which Maes got that year, you get 47%.

      Oh, and 47% was also the percentage Mittens got nationwide.

      And 47% was the portion of the general population which Mittens claimed did not pay taxes.

      That's a magic number………

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