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November 21, 2014 06:35 AM UTC

Friday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

"Rage is exciting, but leaves me confused and exhausted."

–Mason Cooley

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    2. Perry does make a good point at the start when he says “…we are on the verge of a return to federalism like you have never seen it in this country.” That is true. Republicans fucked up the functionality of the federal level so much that states and cities were forced to go it alone and work things from the local level.

      And then TFA right after defines federalism as "the concept that states should be independent from the federal government," and I stopped reading there. I can't deal with that much pure ignorance this early in the morning. 

      1. I read that quote too quickly.  I first thought he said, "we are on the verge of returning to feudalism like you have never seen it in this country."  

        Ooops…..

        1. Who needs a fence when you have helicopters and bullets? Kansas State Rep. Virgil Peck had an idea of his own...

          According to The Kansas City Star, during a House Appropriations Committee discussion of controlling feral swine, a committee member discussed how hunters in helicopters are used to control the hog population. Here's what Peck said: "Looks like to me, if shooting these immigrating feral hogs works, maybe we have found a (solution) to our illegal immigration problem."

          KKKrazee never rests…

          2. Holy christ?!?  Really?!?  I'm starting to feel good about Brownback bankrupting that fucked-up state. I don't want them to be able to afford a gun, or bullets, let alone a helicopter . . .

    3. He just lost a big election,” Jindal said. Jindal, who is one of several Republican governors leaning toward running for president in 2016, said Obama didn’t want the nation to focus on his economic record or on the implementation of Obamacare.

      They should be thrilled that Obama  and the Dems curiously decided to ignore their own pretty spectacular (compared to what Bush stuck them with) record on economic recovery in spite of Rs doing all they could to create failure.  On purpose.

      Guess Obama thought that coming out with brutal honesty about what the Rs have been up to and bragging about the gains would sound like blaming the Rs (who deserve it) instead of being all olive branchy and Dems didn't want to talk  about them because that would mean mentioning Obama and most of them decided to run on "We don't like Obama much either", a brilliant message to use while running against candidates who don't like Obama even more and wouldn't contribute to his hanging on to the Senate.

      Hmm. Lets see, says the average low info voter. Guess if his own party is treating him like nuclear waste, the best bet is to go with the party that really hates his guts and must be better on jobs and the economy because that's what Rs are good at and that must be why the Dems don't even want to bring that stuff up.

      If Dems ever do decide to run on the economy and on all the policies that poll well but that voters obviously don't know enough to realize are opposed by the Rs they voted for and supported by the Dems they voted against, Rs would be well and truly screwed.  Let's hope the message that Dems take away from this is not to be even more afraid of touting their own accomplishments and exposing their opponents failures than they were this time.

      1. I got one of those email surveys by Wasserman-Schultz and was as candid/brutal as I could be about Dems. running away from the president and their economic record.  Which brings us up to Bennett.  Here is hoping some progressive Dems. give him a run for his financial backed money in a primary.  What a back stabbing jerk for voting for Keystone.

  2. So it's been a little over 12 hours since POTUS announced his EO on immigration reform.  Still haven't seen any sign on the GOP's promised swift retribution although Boner issued a statement that Obama has damaged the presidency.  

          2. they're going to fix our shredded Constitution and put a stop to this Tyrant …….. right after their nice, long Thanksgiving vacation. Lord knows that $170K is paltry without some nice bennies.

            (On a side note, I'm contemplating our rumored furlough over the holidays. A nice touch my highly profitable employer just mentioned.)

      1. Not so fast DP.  You know they will find a compliant activist judge to give it the thumbs up so it can move up the food chain to the Roberts (break every precedent in the books) court.  Republicans have been stockpiling activist judges and blocking Democratic appointments long enough to tip the scales of justice.  And to think they hate miscarriages when it involves a woman.

  3. Maybe he was up late playing that drinking game where anytime anyone from his caucus says something batshit about suing and/or impeaching or imprisoning the president, he has to do a shot.  

        1. Agreed – for as well as he played the chess game on marriage equality (and I suspect he's playing the same game with cannabis reform), it was MIA during the elections.  But I don't blame him for that; it was the candidates who ran away from him who should be faulted.

          1. I blame Obama too. He hasn't been strong on messaging accomplishments or attacking R intransigence and he 's been a dick to his own congressional Dems for years as he tried to charm Rs no matter how obvious the futility of breaking through their dedication to his failure (hell, they announced it as their sole policy from day one, then kept proving they meant it) proved to be. Small wonder Dem pols have never been too excited about going out on a limb for the guy who has always treated them as part of the partisan problem he kept insisting could be solved by holding hands and singing.  

            1. A bit harsh Tabby.  They were talking Secession and violent revolution.  Obama's actions might be disappointing to those on the left but I think he did what he did to hold the Union together.  Lost a lot of battles but at the end of the day, he will be able to hand the country over to the next president after a peaceful election in 2016.  That is an accomplishment in itself.

            2. I personally think one of Obama's biggest mistakes was not including Howard Dean in his administration.  Dean had the magic to organize and message.  Big mistake to throw Dean to the curb.

    1. The lawsuit asks the court to rule on the legality of delaying the employer mandate. That's it. No penalties, not even a request to force the administration to implement the mandate NOW.

      And people accuse Obama of being wimpy…

        1. Stupid and dangerous talk by high office R's and their overlords in the media only to whip up their ignorant base and daft listeners. Both sides do not do this.

          Maybe it's time for someone in authority over such matters to tell the more excitable conservatives in the Congress, and on the electric teevee box, ix-nay on the yrrany-tay for a while. I hate to draw comparisons between this president and the late Mr. Lincoln, but popular legend has it that John Wilkes Booth, who did more damage to American government than any other American actor until Ronald Reagan got elected twice, yelled something to that effect after ventilating Lincoln with a derringer. This debate is going to be deliberately made ugly enough by people with their own agendas to rope and ride. You say it in Congress, and whatever nuance there was in your remarks, which probably wasn't much, gets leached out as it goes down the puke funnel to the "respectable" conservative media, to the national radio gasbags, to the local radio gasbags, and ultimately to your drunk uncle who watches Hannity and sends around viral e-mails about FEMA camps.

          Maybe we can stop pretending that declining to deport a few million people for three years is the equivalent of the Writs of Assistance. Maybe we can stop, for a moment, and consider that some people might take what we are saying seriously enough to do some real damage. Maybe we can stop, for a moment, and, you know, think.

  6. Four score and minus four score and two weeks years ago … the American people sent the GOP to Washington, D.C. to … wait for it … raise their taxes via trial lawyer fees!

    They took the bait. 

    Damn ambulance chasers!

  7. Four score and minus four score and two weeks ago … the American people sent the GOP to Washington, D.C. to … wait for it … raise their taxes via trial lawyer fees!

    They took the bait. 

    Damn ambulance chasers!

  8. Suck it, Teatards, you evil, lying, racist vermin:

    "A two-year investigation by the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee has found that the CIA and the military acted properly in responding to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, and asserted no wrongdoing by Obama administration appointees.

    Debunking a series of persistent allegations hinting at dark conspiracies, the investigation of the politically charged incident determined that there was no intelligence failure, no delay in sending a CIA rescue team, no missed opportunity for a military rescue, and no evidence the CIA was covertly shipping arms from Libya to Syria."

    House intel panel debunks many Benghazi theories

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