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December 04, 2014 06:35 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

"The most confused you will ever get is when you try to convince your heart and spirit of something your mind knows is a lie."

–Shannon L. Alder

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25 thoughts on “Thursday Open Thread

    1. Yes – you can't argue wit video. This is why we need body cameras on all police … to show Faux News viewers the left is not "race baiting" and "race hustling" … the left is telling the truth and the right hates them for it. 

    1. U.S. experiences unprecedended slowdown in health care spending

      The amount the United States spent on health care went up last year by the smallest amount since federal scorekeepers started tracking these dollars half a century ago, according to an audit issued Wednesday. The news might come as a shock to Americans struggling to keep up with rising costs.

      Combined spending on health care by households, businesses and the government rose 3.6 percent to $2.9 trillion in 2013, the fifth straight year it increased by less than 5 percent following decades of faster growth, the Office of the Actuary, an independent office within the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services,reported in the journal Health Affairs. Health care accounted for 17.4 percent of the whole economy, the same as in 2012.

      And this is what Republicans have been lying about for 6 years straight to the American people. They want us to pay more. They want insurance companies to be allowed to charge anything the free market will allow. They* said it would ruin America, that Obama is anti-American and that he hates business

      * – "they" are not stupid bloggers, "they" are high elected Republican officials in national and state offices with power and visibility.

    1. We can keep track of it, but it doesn't matter.  The way House districts are drawn, they can literally set fire to the Capitol building and get re-elected between now and 2021.  Look at how an imbecile like Lamborn managed to get 59% last month running against a credible opponent.

    1. Not a big deal. If you read their entire article, the electorate self-reports as shifting toward the party that was the winner after most elections.

      What we also know is that even in red states, voters seem to prefer progressive policies. This also has been true for a long time; voters seem to like the apparent strength of conservative candidates, but agree with progressive policies.

  1. In light of the ongoing police brutality issues in Colorado (especially Denver, where the DA fails time and again to charge police officers involved in shootings and excessive force incidents), it is time for the legislature to enact, and Hickenlooper to sign, legislation creating, funding and empowering an independent Inspector General agency to investigate such incidents.  Such an agency would only work if headed and staffed by non-prosecutors–preferably by lawyers with civil rights experience.  This epidemic of government violence against people of color must be stopped.

    1. And it's not going to be stopped by tasking prosecutors who have close relationships with the the police with whom they normally work to get convictions. In cases where it is a police officer facing indictment it absolutely has to be a special prosecutor brought in from outside the cozy world of police/prosecutor partnership.

      1. Exactly my thoughts. This would be a relatively easy change to make in procedures, and might provide a small deterrent factor in the same way body cameras do.

    2. Any such bill needs to give authority to present to a grand jury and bring charges. Ideally for that reason, it should be an independent body marginally attached to the state AG's office.

      And, just to be straightforward, any such agency will need prosecutorial experience; it won't do to have an entire agency that doesn't know just what laws it's capable of prosecuting, nor how to best build a prosecutorial case. Perhaps, though, it could draw on the AG's office for most of that experience, and put civil rights attorneys at the head of oversight…

      1. I think there are any number of competent criminal defense attorneys–especially public defenders, whose clients have been persecuted for decades by law enforcement–who would have an excellent idea on how to build a prosecutorial case.  As has been pointed out, merely being a prosecutor and knowing how to build a case does not guarantee that the prosecutor will build a case against a police officer.

        1. Agreed that prosecutors that are involved with police can't be the driving force – only looking at the fact that we need someone willing to actually do the prosecutions, and that means they're prosecutors in both title and duty, and there should be prosecutorial knowledge.

    3. The Senate would never approve it.  It would cost money.  Money which could be sent to Texas to defend the border.  And bigger TABOR refunds.

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