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February 16, 2015 06:57 AM UTC

Presidents' Day Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

"If you are not too large for the place you occupy, you are too small for it."

–James Garfield

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24 thoughts on “Presidents’ Day Open Thread

  1. Looks like our unified Republican Congress is going to give us another (albeit partial) government shutdown. No, not because Obama had vetoed any funding bill. Seems the GOP House and the GOP Senate cannot reach agreement on DHS funding bill.

    And Speaker Boner says that the Senate Dems need to get off their asses and pass the House-approved bill! Maybe when he puts down his Merlot bottle and sobers up, someone can explain to him that McConnell is now majority leader.

    1. Some people are saying Boehner should be watched very closely since he is simultaneously threatening to shut down these important national security functions while at the same time secretly negotiating with foreign leaders to undermine the Commander in Chief's attempts to reduce Iran's nuclear threat.

      1. Call for public hearings into his negotiations with Israel.

      Democrats should be united and unequivocal in calling for an inquiry as to why Boehner was negotiating with Ron Dermer when a simple speech is purely a diplomatic protocol matter that is properly handled by the State Department. What did he get in return? Were any promises made? Boehner is 3rd in line for the presidency and should know better. There must be hearings. Immediately.

      2. Boehner's security clearance must be placed under administrative review.

      It should be a grave national security matter when a Speaker of the House is conducting negotiations with a foreign government and at the same time shutting down domestic security operations. (Scary Red for AC.) Are these two things linked? Responsible intelligence officials have a duty to protect America. Investigate.

      3. Republicans must be made to answer for the conduct of the Speaker.

      Questions are raised here. I know because I just raised them. Democrats need to be united in raising them too. Presidential candidates for the GOP nomination have to take a position on this thing.

      Democrats, especially that moribund, slothful, aging group of tortoises in the House need to go on the offensive if they want to ever see a majority again. Bringing down a fragile, weak Boehner whom Republicans will gladly toss aside is a good first step.

      Is John Boehner a Traitor? We won't know unless we investigate him now. Or maybe it's better to foster the wonderful sense of bipartisanship that Democrats always hope for and Republicans can always be counted on to manupulte to their advantage.

      1. Obama is the traitor, not Boehner.

        Obama has a hard time remember Israel is our friend, Iran is our enemy.

        He seems to get the two confused rather easily.

        1. How is Isreal our friend?  Do they lend miltary support to our foreign actions?  Do we have the ability to project power from Isreali bases?  Provide the US with discounted weapons systems?  Do we receive access to natural resources?

          A friendship is a two way street; not one where some pissant upstart thinks that they can call all the shots.  Isreal is no friend: they are the coke-snorting kid that thinks that Daddy will always bail them out no matter how many times they f**k up.

  2. Presidential Feats and Flaws – one rule – if you mention a failure, you have to mention an accomplishment, as well. So you Obama-haters must present a balanced view.

    President 1: George Washington – Flaw: He was a slave catcher, relentlessly pursued "his" slave,  Ona Judge.  Ona was the First Lady's personal slave while George was President. Ms. Judge eventually escaped for good, and lived her sunset years in Portsmouth, Maine. Feats: He established the tradition of a cabinet of advisers. His farewell address is a celebrated speech in which he warns against "the baneful effects of the spirit of Party".
     

  3. Jeb Bush is dominating the GOTP money race. One of the best arguments against Jeb in a general is… do we really want a father and two of his sons to be every other president for decades? Do we really want anything that close to a dynastic Presidency? Too bad we can't make any such argument with HRC as the Dem candidate, a would be co-President (a nonexistent office in our system for someone who wasn't elected to anything at the time) whose entire political career was built on her marriage. So it's going to be dynasty v Eva Peron? Wake me when it's over.

    1. I'm with you on this one, davebarnes. It never worked the way it was supposed to. The interagency cooperation it was built to foster is nonexistent. It's just possible that the separate agencies have gotten even more secretive than they once were. The name has always rubbed me the wrong way, too. "Homeland" sounds so fascist to me. I was a word I never heard associated with the U.S. until Georgie started up on his cowboy adventures to go get him some of that "awl" over there in those sandy places.,  

  4. I came across a t-shirt slogan today that seemed so appropriate for our two troll boys I had to post it….paraphrasing…

    Being dead isn't hard for the person who is dead, it is difficult for everyone else involved. Being stupid is the same way….

    1. Worm, why haven't you enlisted yet?  That way you can do something to put an end to all the carnage you're so fond of watching. I'm guessing you don't have the balls to serve in the military.

    2. So you're saying Obama needs to take us to war in all of these places all over the Arab world? If we're going to send in ground troops to wage war in all these countries, and of course nothing but bombing isn't going to get it done, we probably should get Congress to declare war and we'll really need to bring back the draft. We've already done a pretty thorough job of chewing up and spitting out our all volunteer forces.

      Of course, you won't need to be drafted, AC . You'll be at the head of the line to volunteer, right? But why wait? I'm sure you can offer your services as a mercenary right now. Maybe you can get  war hero Bill O'Really to go with you. And what on earth is the matter with Egypt doing the bombing (they are) this time since it's their citizens? If ISIS is finally getting the states in the region with the most at stake to wake up and police their own neighborhood, that's the first positive thing to come out of this whole Neocon Cheney/Bush created clusterfuck. 

  5. When it comes to the ossified Teabag arseholes in congress, forget the gang that couldn't shoot straight; this motley mob of morons and imbeciles can't even agree on how to load the gun!

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-gop-congress-assessment-20150215-story.html#page=1

    This scaly assortment of droolers and knuckledraggers controls BOTH houses, and yet still they sit there on their thumbs, waiting for the Rapture. Please just keep pissing it all away, incompetent knuckleheads…

  6. And here's a case of Congress doing the right thing, and the Obama Administration showing the same level of incompetence as they did on the initial ACA website. I am so hoping to get a competent administrator as president in 2 years.

     

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