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March 27, 2015 11:46 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Laws too gentle are seldom obeyed; too severe, seldom executed.”

–Benjamin Franklin

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  1. The truth is that in today’s Republican Party, Ted Cruz’s radical, right-wing ideas don’t really stand out as being all that extreme. In fact, his anti-choice, anti-woman agenda is the furthest thing from extreme—these days, it’s actually the mainstream of the Republican Party. Stephanie Schriock at RCP Emilys List

    1. Great point.  

      What this country needs is a dishonest Democrat talking about the war on women while paying their female staff less than their male staff and further enabling and putting a sexual predator in the White House as the spouse of the Democrat President.

      That seems to be mainstream Democratic Party thinking these days.

      1. Did you clear that posting with the new face of the GOTP — Dr. Chaps?  Between him and Ted Cruz, you have the cream of Republican intelligentsia leading your party to future success 🙂

      2. Andrew: you can posture all you want and try to change the subject. The bottom line remains that our party IS the party of warring on women. Controlling what happens, in the uteruses of women of child bearing age, seems to be right up there with increasing defense spending. 

          1. CHB is talking about the party, the GOP. He feels that many of their positions aren’t true conservative positions. Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of people who call themselves conservative today are Republicans who are completely in AC’s camp so what is commonly meant by the label “conservative” is not what CHB believes it should mean but that doesn’t change the commonly recognized meaning.

             It’s most practical to go with common usage. Few, for instance, use the word “gay” according to it’s old definition. If you say it was a very gay party now, no one assumes you mean a happy festive affair. Kind of pointless to insist on the traditional usage. It’s not just the GOP that has changed radically but also the working definition of conservative. The CHB conservatives may have to come up with another label for their ideology. Neoconservative is already taken. How about Conservative Classic?

        1. “Here is the secret of the opposition to woman’s equality in the state,” Elizabeth Cady Stanton wrote. “Men are not ready to recognize it in the home.”
          “Historically, the conservative has sought to forestall the march of democracy in both the public and the private spheres, on the assumption that advances in the one necessarily spur advances in the other” The Conservative Mind

  2. Senator Morgan Carroll’s Legislative Week in Review

    Andy Kerr and Leroy Garcia put forward some great bills – and some noncontroversial ones. Most are moving along in the process. There was even some bipartisan cosponsorship of successful bills. (Women’s History Month, for example, with Guzman and Todd cosponsoring)

    Will someone please explain to me why Senate Republicans would not want college students to know how much they will owe after they graduate (Kerr’s bill 15-200), or why parents should not be allowed to take time from work to visit their child’s school? (Kerr’s bill 15-1221)

  3. If anyone here is connected to any national equal rights groups, a suggestion.

    Get one of the ticket takers at the NCAA final to agree that they’ll refuse to take a ticket from a gay couple. Then have a gay couple go up where they’ll be told to go to another line.

    Have one person filming something else where they catch this in the edge of the camera and turn to it as they “realize” what’s going on. This needs to be an individual not a part of any equal rights group.

    They post it to YouTube and tweet it. Then you have an equal rights re-tweet it. At which point it explodes across the net. As everyone is waiting for the game to start, the main topic of discussion will be if the two gay ticket holders will get in to watch.

    Have a second person start videoing after the discussion starts, and keep going in case the people next in line say anything.

    All you need is 1 ticket taker willing to do this. And if you then script it right, you’ve got a giant news story and Indiana is facing a horrible public backlash.

    1. OK now; ya’ll don’t mess with Hoosiers. I happen to be one; born and raised (altho I’ve now lived in Colorado for several years longer than I lived in Indiana.

      What you all are seeing is a typical example of a dumb f…k Hoosier, in Governor Mike Pence. For what it’s worth, Pence has been a wholly owned sock puppet of the religious right for years. Now, it’s like “duh, I didn’t know all this bad sh…t would come down when I signed this fundamentalist Christian bill.”  “I had no idea it might hurt our state economy” (at least Arizona Governor Jan Brewer was smart enough to veto a similar bill a couple years ago).

      So, now it’s time to “back peddle” and let’s get a quick bill introduced to “clarify” what was meant by the original bill. My prediction is that the “clarifying bill” will likely make things worse. But, we shall see.

      Regards,

      Conservative Head Banger    ( AC/DC Rules!  as long as they’re not gay!))

      1. OTOH, it’s nice to see a state other than Colorado referred to as the Hate State. Although if Chaps, Waters-Woods, and the Neville family had it their way, Colorado would follow Indiana down that drain.

      2. Until Hoosiers will state publicly that this is a pro discrimination bill and that it should be repealed, then absolutely mess with Hoosiers. By the way, every college in the state of Indiana needs to put out a statement on this, especially the Holy Cross Fathers at the University of Notre Dame.

  4. To anyone graduating from High School who is really smart and motivated I have some advice – don’t go to College. From How the world’s youngest self-made female billionaire is shaking up the healthcare industry

    She is a college dropout, which puts her in the company of famed subversives like Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, the Peter Thiel posse, and Kanye West.

    Oh, and say goodbye to all those medical lab jobs. Lowers healthcare costs, raises unemployment.

    1. And just how many people do you suppose get to be billionaires? Opportunity and inspiring Horatio Alger stories like this are all great but remember. Arithmetic is harsh mistress. Even if every single person put forth their very best effort, was brilliant and lucky, you just can’t fit more than .001% into the top .001% and so on down the line. There are alternatives to college that can lead to making a decent living but very few people are going to live fairy tales involving getting into the top .001% or .01% or .1% or even the relatively small potatoes top 1%.  99% will reach none of those levels because of, there it is again, arithmetic.  Most of the 1% who do make it that far up the ladder won’t be doing so by getting less education. Yes the Horatio Alger myth works but only for a few.  Just like most kids whose parents push them mercilessly in sports will never make a dime for their efforts. The rest of us need a more practical plan.

      1. It pays off well for tens of thousands. There’s a few who hit a billion. But there’s an immense number that hit 10 million+.

        And I didn’t say everyone should do it, I said those that are very smart & motivated. Because for them, the diploma has minimal impact. What matters is what they can accomplish.

        1. You’re such Republican in your view of how economics ought to work toward a society of a few winners at the top (tens of thousands out of hundreds of millions win. Too bad for the hundreds of millions of losers) Guess the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.wink

          1. PS. There are no doubt millions, not thousands, of smart motivated people graduating from High School. So this isn’t going to be a practical plan for the overwhelming majority of them either. Please review arithmetic 101. Republicans just love the Horatio Alger stories. Dems know they’re nice and  all the best to all the Algers who came out on top but they’re of  little practical value to the overwhelming majority. Dems would kind of like to see routes toward decent lives for them too. Like when Unions and the world’s broadest most prosperous middle class made us truly exceptional. We’d like to have that but with the civil rights and social justice that were missing back then.

            Republicans ideas about what was the best part of that era and Dems ideas about what what was best are pretty much opposite.  We like the smaller wealth gap, broader prosperity and upward mobility. Rs like the “values” expressed by anti-gay, anti-immigrant, anti-woman, anti-minority social norms. They prefer going all the way back to the gilded age for economics.

    2. Um, David, it looks to me like most of your list went to college. In fact, one could argue that college provided the incubator that allowed them to turn an idea into a very profitable business. 

      And what BC said. 

  5. Attn dustpuppy:

    We have to think up some really gruesome penalties for Scott Walker.

    “Dropping a hammer” on him sounds kind of mean, but we can do better, if we put our minds together, I’m sure. Torture, dungeon, indentured servitude to Mali villagers? C’mon buddy, help me out here.

    Either way, I think this may also drop the hammer on Walker’s presidential ambitions.

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