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June 01, 2015 06:35 AM UTC

Monday Open Thread

  • 17 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

Why is his nature forever so hard to teach
That though there is no fixed line between wrong and right,
There are roughly zones whose laws must be obeyed?

–Robert Frost

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17 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

  1. Are we on the verge of civil war within the GOP? Last night, Rand Paul and those who stand with Rand temporarily killed the surveillance program. Yertle McConnell, who has already endorsed Randy Paul for president, was on the floor this weekend denouncing him.

    John McCain responded by referring to Rand Paul as the worst in the GOP field of '16 candidates! (Lindsey "Blanche Dubois" Graham, McCain's heir, is set to announce today that he's running. No one will notice.) 

    Dick and Liz Cheney have announced that they are establishing a national security PAC. Perhaps those two should track Rand as he runs.

    I'm guessing Jeb Bush will need to consult with his national security advisor, George W. Bush, before formulating an opinion on the surveillance bill.

  2. The division within the GOP is all that saves us from a true civil war. There are plenty of Tea Party people talking about and planning for secession and a real civil war. They're calling for a "convention of states" to look into "curtailing the federal government".

    It's an unholy alliance between the corporate hacks and the Obama -hating paranoids.

    Progressives, unless we pull our heads out of our nether regions and offer real alternatives, are stuck with being grateful that the corporatists are so far winning the GOP civil war. At least, they can be bought off.

  3. How to tell when a Republican Presidential candidate (one of the serious ones!) is lying – when he has no opinion about the 35 Trillion gallons of water that just fell on his parched state:

    After literally 35 trillion gallons of water fell on Texas this month, washing away homes and killing at least 28 people, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz still would not talk about climate change.

    “At a time of tragedy, I think it’s wrong to try to politicize a natural disaster,” the 2016 Republican presidential candidate said last week when asked about the role of climate change in the floods.

    In a way, the “let’s not politicize this” response is similar to the familiar “I’m not a scientist” dodge — a way to avoid talking about the science that says human-made carbon emissions are warming the earth and screwing with natural weather patterns. Cruz, for his part, says he does not accept that science.

    In the meantime, climate scientists across the country have been speaking out about the climate implications of the Texas floods. And on Friday, ThinkProgress asked several of those scientists to weigh in on Cruz’s comments.

    The overwhelming response: Talking about climate change after a weather tragedy is not political. In fact, it’s necessary.

    The old "I'm not an accountant" dodge for economic issues or the "I'm not a scientist" dodge for any number of other issues should not let politicians off the hook. They make policy decisions every day on issues where they are not expert. They either hire them, listen to them at hearings, or pretend they don't exist when convenient.

    The press shouldn't stand for those answers, and voters shouldn't vote for someone who won't answer a basic policy question. And the hypocrisy of politicizing Hurricane Sandy relief makes Ted Cruz' lie even more egregious. 

    1. Yes he is but it is not yet possible in this country for a self labeled socialist to become President. I do think his run is still extremely valuable and the more support he gets, the closer we get to a day when someone like him, but who has never called himself a socialist will be able to win.

        1. He's  still serving a valuable purpose.  If the discussion is whether or not he can win the nomination, of course not.  But when taxing and spending was closer to Bernie's end of the scale our middle class was the broadest, most prosperous and upwardly mobile on the planet. That's factual,  measured, recorded, not opinion, not "belief" in some ideology.

          Since GOP/Conservative/DLC /center right Dem "responsible" fiscal policy has been in place the overwhelming majority of Americans have lost ground on all those fronts. Everything good is less affordable for most Americans than it was when unions were strong, taxes on the wealthiest were higher, minimum wage had much more buying power,  jobs for skilled workers offered wages with much more buying power, education cost less compared to average buying power, health care cost less compared to average buying power, people were able to graduate from college with little or no debt,  public money was being spent on big infrastructure, big exploration, big things, important things.  Things that truly made us number one. And not just in the ability to blow things up.

          Whatever discussion you want to have on fiscal policy, decades worth of stats prove the discussion should have been over ages ago with the conservative policies you advocate proven failures. They don't stimulate the economy. They don't create well paying jobs. They don't help the middle class. They've turned "we're number one" into a joke in category after category, especially  in reference to our once world's greatest middle class.

          Once again, that's by objective measures, decades worth of hard data, not "belief" in any ism.

    1. New Joe Lieberman? Then not centrist. Make that Conservative Dem. Tired of letting righties keep moving "center" ever farther right. Obama is center. HRC is center. This guy is not.

    2. Here's the meat….

      Additionally, we need a philosophical shift in the Democratic Party, a new willingness to support programs that create pathways for nongovernmental and philanthropic innovation and investment to help solve the problems of society. We should embrace approaches, such as social impact bonds, that combine private-sector capital and expertise with public-interest goals to produce better government services. Such changes will require Democrats to leave our ideological comfort zone and move away from the idea that government, and government alone, is the answer to our problems.

      Yep…that pretty much says it….

      This guy is a Republican infiltrator….

      1. I think what we need to move away from is the concept that the private sector does everything better (see private war profiteer contractors, private for profit prisons, youth detention, private for profit education, private for profit solutions to infrastructure, private for profit healthcare coverage, etc. etc. etc.) and that  government can't do anything better with public funding (see 50s, 60s infrastructure accomplishments, 60s space program, social security, medicare and medicaid, public universities back when they received adequate funding, etc. etc. etc.).

      2. He's just following Gingrich's "replace the left" strategy. City Councilman candidate Wayne New  practices this strategy. So does Edgar Antillon, local Barbeque King and wannabe State rep, who by the way still has an active Republican campaign site for HD32 .

        Antillon is probably waiting until after his big June 11 "Appreciate Everybody!" event.  (then why not call it Customer Appreciation Day?) That  should allow him to build up enough name recognition to make a successful run, though not as a Republican, nor, he says, as a Democrat. We'll see.

        The takeaway for us, as people who care about policy, not just politics (thank you Zappatero!) is to do our homework. We need to continue to write comments, blogs, LTEs, and diaries, keep on spreading the word so that voters understand that the D or R labels don't necessarily mean much.

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