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September 14, 2015 02:39 PM UTC

GOP Uses Cheap Scare Tactics To Dodge Gitmo Legacy

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  • by: Colorado Pols
Sen. Cory Gardner (R).
Sen. Cory Gardner (R).

As the Grand Junction Sentinel’s Charles Ashby reports–a new proposal to transfer foreign combatants presently being held under dubious legal circumstances from the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to Colorado’s Florence “Supermax” ultra-secure federal prison, which was floated previously as President Barack Obama has tried to find a way to close the Guantanamo Bay’s controversial detention center, is meeting fierce resistance once again from Republican lawmakers in our state:

Colorado shouldn’t allow terrorists now held at a military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to be transferred to the federal Supermax prison in Cañon City, U.S. Rep. Scott Tipton said Saturday…

“The war on terror hasn’t been won,” he said in an interview. “This is not a criminal. This is a terrorist. This is somebody who has declared war on the United States of America, and I think the appropriate response is to leave that in the control of the military. Keep (Guantanamo Bay) open.”

Tipton, however, expects President Barack Obama to “do whatever he wants,” but urged him to listen to Congress and keep the prisoners where they are.

Gardner also called on the White House not to close the military prison.

“The Guantanamo facility houses some of the world’s worst international terrorists, and it’s critical that we keep them there,” he said in a statement. “That this reckless and irresponsible idea is being considered at all by officials in the Obama administration shows a careless disregard for the safety and security of Coloradans.”

Supermax, Florence, Colorado.
Supermax, Florence, Colorado.

But as the Denver Post’s editorial board replied yesterday, that’s a bunch of fearmongering claptrap:

If that’s the case, then we’d better go home and bolt the doors, because the worst of the worst are mostly already here. Among them:

Ramzi Yousef and four other al-Qaeda operatives convicted in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; Terry Nichols of the Oklahoma City bombing; Unabomber Ted Kaczynski; and Zacarias Moussaoui, convicted as part of the 9/11 conspiracy.

Also, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, the Boston bomber; Richard Reid, the “Shoe Bomber”; Umar Abdulmutallab, the “Underwear Bomber; Eric Rudolph, the Olympic Park bomber; and Ahmed Ressam, an al-Qaeda operative convicted in the 2000 millennium plots.

Oh, and did we mention al-Qaeda operatives involved in the U.S. embassy bombings in Africa?

As host to the nation’s most secure federal prison, affectionately known as the “Alcatraz of the Rockies,” Colorado already has the nation’s biggest, and maybe the world’s biggest after Guantanamo itself, population of internationally-recognized high profile terrorists–including high profile members of Al Qaeda and a 9/11 conspirator. Back in 2009, when President Obama was first looking to close Guantanamo’s detention center, then-Gov. Bill Ritter was heavily criticized by local Republicans, including then-state Rep. Cory Gardner, for saying he would not oppose the transfer of Guantanamo Bay inmates to Colorado. Gardner infamously warned of a “pipeline of terror from Kabul to Colorado,” a preview of the kind of scare-tactic rhetoric he has frequently employed since then as he pursued higher office.

The real problem, both in 2009 and today, is one that the Denver Post only indirectly references in their editorial:

We don’t think Florence is the best location, either, but not because terrorists don’t belong there. Convicted terrorists absolutely belong there, and are there. But the Guantanamo detainees are enemy combatants. They aren’t convicted [Pols emphasis] and, if they can’t be released to another country, they should be housed at a military prison on the mainland…

The biggest problem with the inmates at the Guantanamo Bay detention center is, of course, their extralegal status. Because most detainees at Gitmo have not been convicted of a crime, with many being cases that cannot be tried under American criminal law due to jurisidictional problems or circumstances of their legally questionable detention, transferring them to the United States could become highly problematic–especially for American politicians who have essentially argued for over a decade that Gitmo detainees have no legal rights.

Once you realize that the fear being blown up our collective kazoos by Sen. Cory Gardner and Rep. Scott Tipton has no rational basis, these much less savory motives become easy to see. It’s quite possible that there won’t be a solution to the Gitmo detainee question during Obama’s presidency, or even while Republicans remain in control of Congress.

But history is going to judge this someday, folks. And history won’t be kind to the fearmongers.

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15 thoughts on “GOP Uses Cheap Scare Tactics To Dodge Gitmo Legacy

  1. The problem with the Gitmo prisoners is very much tied up in the fact that they haven't been – and in many cases can't be – convicted even under the military court rules established explicitly to handle prisoners taken under the authority of the 2001 AUMF.

    Some of them are eligible for release if we could find a country that would take them (and where they wouldn't be persecuted). Keeping them in Cuba keeps them away from a certain amount of judicial oversight. Moving them here could grant some of them new protections from the courts. Most of the prisoners would certainly remain under the authority of the AUMF that keeps them detained even without their trials, but even they might find a more receptive court system here.

    Of course, the real problem isn't some imagined lenience of US based courts, or the inconvenience of moving them to the United States. The real problem is that the Bush Administration, the CIA, and others so botched up the capture and treatment of these prisoners that we haven't been able to properly try them and either release them or imprison them with full legal authority.

    History will not treat the US kindly in this matter, that's for sure.

    1. Yep, evidence/confessions extracted via torture, regardless of what John Yoo thinks, is fruit of a poisoned tree and can't be used at trial.

      Speaking of war criminals, has Dick Cheney taken any international trips recently? devil

        1. No evidence that any useful intel was ever gained by torture, a method that has traditionally been used to get people to say whatever they thnik you want them to say has been produced. No legitimitate court of law, civilian or military can admit evidence obtained by torture or bring a case at all once it's tainted by torture. So they did what should never be done and what makes any kind of civil or military justice impossible.

          And, BTW, the Bush administration did release many of those held and some of them did return to the battlefield. That's Bush, not Obama. What would you expect of people, especially those not guilty of anything but being in the wrong place at the wrong time and being sold for bounty to us,  who have been subjected to torture and long hopeless years of incarceration by the US? That they could possibly not hate us?  

          If what they had to do was ruin our international reputation, make legitimate trials impossible and create legions of enemies while not gaining any reliable intel then… OK. Mission accomplished. 

          And if you say it’s war, the Geneva Conventions apply. if the Geneva Conventions don’t apply then you’re talking about something other than war. Either terrorism is war or it isn’t and in either case, our constitution and military code both outlaw torture.

    2. I've read that moving them to the US would create a major constitutional problem, and could result in the AUMF as it pertains to detainees being invalidated. Our laws were simply not designed for endless war.

  2. You do know that Bush and Cheney will be vindicated because eventually the guys in Gitmo will crack and tell us where the Iraqi WMDs are hidden, and where we can find Osama bin Laden, and where Jimmy Hoffa is buried, and what happened to Judge Crater. It's just a matter of time.

    1. Exactly.If they didn't have fear, hate, racism, poor bashing and bigotry, how on earth would they fill all those hours on Fox "News"? The GOP has devolved to where the only thing it's for is fearing and hating fill-in-the-blank.

      1. And ignorance — don't forget the foundation upon which fear and hatred are built and sustained.

        Without millions of ignorant little Moddy's, demagogues running the GOP would wither and crumble into obscurity.

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