Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry is gone, not that anybody noticed. With poll numbers that couldn’t even crack 1%, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker is now the latest Republican Presidential candidate to drop out of the 2016 race.
What say you, Polsters? Who will be the next Republican candidate to exit the race for President? Vote after the jump…
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There are so many dead men walking, it's hard to choose!
I think that there is some reason to hope that the GOP field will be culled down to a manageable size by the end of January when the voting starts. We've had two drop already. One more per debate would be good progress.
Rand will be next. The little people (Pataki, Gilmore, Piyush, the Frothy Mix and the Drama Queen) can operate on fumes since they have very little infrastructure to maintain and had such low expectation.
There were great expectations for Rand and he has disappointed deeply. From whom much is given, much is expected in return.
Unlike other people in the race, Rand isn't running in the 2016 Presidential election for the purpose of becoming President (or even VP). He's running to give himself a bully pulpit for an ideology that he wants to advance. He'll be in until the bitter end because it serves that purpose.
…chicken dinner!
Just like dear old dad.
Carson is going to hang in for a little while, but I'm telling you when the fundies find out what the SDA Church is all about, Carson is a goner. Most of his support is the evangelical crowd, but only due to ignorance. A little knowledge, and poof! They didn't vote rather than vote for Mittens because he was a Mormon. They're not gonna like SDA any bit better than the Church of the Latter Day Saints.
Is the SDA church like the Pentacostalists (speaking in tongues and playing w/ poisonous snakes)?
Actually, they are fundamentalist health nuts that arose in the mid-1800's — the bible is literally word-for-word true, heavy on vegan/vegetarianism, invented breakfast cereals (gasp!), practice kosher and the Sabbath starts at sundown Friday until sundown Saturday.
While they were considered a cult, it seems enough time has passed that they are considered just another evangelical protestant church.
I don't see Carson's run for the presidency causing any great theological schism on the Right.
Adventist hospitals (some major ones in metro) have good cafeterias. Not entirely vegetarian, though Adventists are old school vegetarian with eggs and dairy OK, because all kinds of people use and work in their hospitals, but with lots more fresh healthy fare available than your usual hospital food. I've been a visitor in a couple of Adventist Hospitals and appreciate the very nice edible food.
Can't imagine where keeping kosher would come into it for vegetarians. No such thing as a carrot that isn't kosher. Those rules are all about which kinds of meat you can eat, how it's slaughtered, which kinds of fish you can eat (has to have scales, can't have a shell) and not mixing meat and dairy. But I'll take your word for it.
Pretty sure they're like most orthodox and fundamentalists. They may think they consider every word of the bible to be true but you don't see them (or anyone) following every rule therein. Don't strike me as a weird cult at all. At least no weirder than most Christian denominations or other religions.
I just looked up the Wikipedia entry for them to briefly summarize what I could about them. I was curious to know what SDA stood for, and so when I realized it was Seventh Day Adventists, I just do what I normally do and looked them up on the web.
I knew zip about them until 5 minutes before I posted my note. Just in Time education 🙂
They aren't pure vegetarians, just a fairly good share (35%) of them. They also tend to avoid caffeine, alcohol and tobacco. Good thing I'm a non-practicing Southern Baptist — I couldn't handle their lifestyle![wink wink](https://cdn.ckeditor.com/4.5.1/full-all/plugins/smiley/images/wink_smile.png)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adventist_Church
I'll take your word for it. All the Adventists I knew were vegetarians. Didn't know it was optional. Anyway…. good hospital cafeteria food and not any wackier than any other religious group, much less than some.
The doctor's lounge gets meat.
Carson already got himself uninvited to a fundie gathering 'cause SDA.
From what I can tell the problems that evangelicals have with the SDA are:
1} Extra prophets. Ellen White is akin to Joseph Smith.
2) Differences in how immortality is defined. Frankly, the arguments from either side sound like birds chirping.
3) What you need to do to be saved. E's believe in the Get Out of Jail Free Card (belief alone) while SDA's believe you actually have to do stuff.
4) Differences in what happens at the end times. Again, birds chirping.
I think 1 and 3 are the real deal breakers for E's.
To me, and probably anyone else not in these two camps, these differences sound like the bridge joke.
A good joke has to have an element of truth.
I agree that Rand Paul will withdraw soon, if not necessarily next. Unlike Dear Old Dad, he has no lock on his seat, and he won't sacrifice that for a chimerical Presidential run.
Yeah well, I'm a mainly secular Jew (not so secular that I'm not doing the Yom Kippur fast, sundown tonight until after sundown tomorrow. Force of habit, I guess) so one Christian sect is no more or less weird to me than another.
It's all good as long as nobody is trying to shove any of it down anybody else's throat. Or burn people at the stake. Or impose unconstitutional religious tests. Or make ridiculous statements that only certain religions comport with the constitution when the constitution is very clear about not endorsing, establishing, showing favoritism to or opposing any, all or non religion.
Anybody who's clear on that is fine with me no matter what what religion they practice, including Atheism. I consider Atheism a religion because being a strict atheist requires as much dedication and faith in that which can't be proved or disproved as any other religion.
As long as government confines itself to secular matters and leaves the spiritual sphere alone, I'm good. It would be nice though, if after all these years under a constitution that bans religious tests or favoring religions we could stop demanding that candidates for President swear they're good Christians. Sorry, Bernie, but I bet we have our first woman, first Latino, first Asian, and anything else you care to name before we have our first Jewish or any other non-Christian President. Despite the alleged (what a joke) war on Christianity.
To any Jews out their who will be joining me, may you have an easy fast .
Amen!
Yep. Weird, fetal tissue for research and never held elected office. Oh and he's not white. He won't' drop out until he's sure, but that day isn't far off.
The GOP likes to have token brown skinned candidates in the early stages of the race for the presidential nod but anyone who isn't pure as the driven snow white and thinks their going to get that nomination is delusional.
D'oh. "they're". I hate when that happens!
Not sure that I agree that the religious right will have a problem with an SDA candidate. As someone born into a fundamentalist church, I would say that they will mostly see a reflection of themselves. We can parse some of the details of their different faiths here but fundamentalist voters are going to be looking at positions first and foremost and then theology. With something as glaring as the Mormons or the Catholic church, that second step could get troublesome but with the SDA, I don't think it would. It has been strange to watch, over the years of my life, the bedfellows that have been made of conservative Catholics and fundamentalists. Because, I can tell you that, until Muslims showed up on their radar 14 years ago, there is no religious group that fundamentalists dislike more than Catholics.
Still, I think it is going to be moot. Carson's greatest asset is that he is Trump without the bombastic qualities. And his greatest deficit is that he doesn't just lack the bombast, he seems to lack charisma of any kind.
I agree that the JV squad won't be the next to have one of it's members drop out. After all, the dimmest stars last the longest.
I think Christie is the next to go, when the indictments come in.
Remember when all the talk was about who would be stronger, Walker or Bush? Back before Bush became Jeb! of course. When you look at this field it's really hard to imagine who the hell they've got besides Jeb! this point. Won't be Trump (I know but trust me, it won't). It's hard to see anybody else on this list going all the way. After all the hype and hysteria and shock of the Trump Show, will it just be the most vanilla candidate again, like the last two times with McCain and Romney? Although wouldn't a third Bush be pretty shocking, too? Especially if he won the general making every other President a Bush for decades? Pretty sure trying to play that down is why he went with Jeb! like we wouldn't notice. We certainly do live in interesting times.
Maybe Mittens is keeping his powder dry, planning a late entry after all the other have burned themselves out………..
Nfw. Two time loser, RINO governor, invented Obamacare, and not yet fully vetted on the Mormon thing (most Christian denominations do not consider Mormons "Christian."
Odd election. Dems and Rs could both wind up feeling like their candidate is someone they got stuck with.
Mittens didn't actually invent Obamacare although he did test the prototype for it when he was governor. IIRC, the concept was cooked up by Newt Gingrich (remember him?) and a Republican think tank (talk about an oxymoron) in the '90s as the alternative to Hillary-Care.
Yep:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2011/10/20/how-a-conservative-think-tank-invented-the-individual-mandate/
My spin is better.
if Al Gore claimed he invented the Internet, Romney invented Obamacare.
You forgot Jim Gilmore…
… and so did everybody else.
We remembered, but Gilmore's campaign probably won't change even if he drops out.
Governors – Christie is next. When he realizes that he can't win (he may already know) and there is no cabinet invite impending. Also, no fundraising, he's out offensive come backed by Trump, and no one really likes him, at least not as much as they like Rubio, Jindal and Carson.
if there's a late entry, waiting so as not to be duck sat, Governor Haley.
Bobby Jindal – he was voted off the island when they forgot to include him in the big Kumbayah photo. Plus, Lousianans hate him.
Plus, I don't know w how to put this politely but he just isn't the type the GOP base can see as President. He can be Christian and call himself Bobby 'til the cows come home.
Right about that..he will always be the wrong skin color to suit that great racist southern base that is propelling the Republican party into oblivion.
I did not say he could win. He is better liked than Christie.
Think Jindal's next, but I guess it really depends on who Cheney invites to go hunting with him this fall, right?
That's one way to thin the herd.
Arianna Huffington thinks the media's love affair with Trump is just about over because of his refusal to simply answer yes or no if he believes Obama was born in the US:
The fact that a supposed "straight talker" can only dodge and dissemble on that question dramatically lessens his appeal, and it's no longer entertaining for the media to pretend to take seriously anything he says.
If Pataki or Jindal drop out of the race but no one notices, did they really drop out?
Corollary: Could they suddenly reappear when Trump finally stops sucking the oxygen out of the room and get that announcement bump because no one knew they had been in the race to begin with?