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September 26, 2015 12:18 AM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“I don’t think there are any rude questions.”

–Helen Thomas

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  1. Apparently the spammers are choosing Friday night to try out their new scripts on our poor hapless website. We're back up and monitoring for further shenanigans.

  2. #TheSmartOne proves once again that he can grasp almost nothing related to Vatican activities.  Not to be one-upped by Ricky, he's jumped on the bandwagon of 'the Pope isn't a scientist!".  Never mind the Pontif, who has more scientific training than 99% of Congress, is fully informed by the Pontifical Academy of Sciences.  

    Remember when #TheSmartOne asserted during the fury of Repeal and Replace!  in 2013 that the US Embassy in Vatican City was being moved over retaliation by Catholics over Obamacare?   He'd forgotten the process of moving the embassy from its current location to the compound at the U.S. Embassy to Italy began under Jeb’s brother, President George W. Bush, whose administration purchased the buildings. The new location is actually a tenth of a mile closer to the Vatican, came with no reduction in staff or activities and provided a significant cost savings to the US taxpayer. 

    To parrot BlueCat, Jeb! is challenging the decades-long notion that he is #TheSmartOne. 

     

      1. J Paul Brown's facebook posts reveal less than proficient command of the English language. On the other hand, he does take very good care of his sheep.

        And he votes with Dems occasionally when the interests of his constituents call for it.

    1. #TheSmartOne Express rolls through parts of lily white South Carolina, lobbing word bombs as they pass each train station.  This is what passes for conservative strategery in 2015:

      Jeb Bush's "Free Stuff" Racial Insult Was a Shrewd Calculation

      The "free stuff" to blacks dig was simply etching a lurid racial stereotype graphic to it for conservative voters. And stereotype it is. The majority of the recipients of these programs have always been white seniors, retirees, women, and children, and white workers. But these programs have been artfully sold to many Americans as handouts to lazy, undeserving blacks, Hispanics and minorities. 

          1. It's not a 'bad chart', it's un-labeled' .  You're right, it's illustrates the discretionary portion of the federal budget.  If you add in mandatory spending under food and agriculture, the number jumps from 1% to 4%, which is inclusive of not only the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP), but all agricultural subsidy payments, federal crop insurance, disaster payments, etc.

            The post was directed generally at the latest Jeb! 'Free Stuff' campaign; you may recall the fight over the food stamp program in the last farm bill authorization.  The chart was to put that argument in perspective: even if the program was funding only the black citizens Bush refers to, it would be something in the neighborhood of half the USDA budget (2% of the total budget).  But we know that those benefits go predominantly to white seniors, retirees, women, and children, white workers and veterans and not the scary black people Bush is referring to.

            Whether it's Ken Buck disparaging brown people or a washed-up Bush talking about blacks getting 'free stuff', it makes me ill that these conversations are even taking place. 

            1. Also does not show interest payments on the national debt. The military is actually 63% as I believe veterans' benefits should be counted as part of the military budget.

              1. Interest claims approximately 7% of the federal budget; Social Security takes up 24% of the pie. SSI provides monthly retirement benefits to 39.0 million retired workers, 2.3 million spouses and children of retired workers, 6.1 million surviving children (it's what provided for Paul Ryan's family after his fathers death) and spouses of deceased workers, and 10.9 million disabled workers and their eligible dependents.

                About 11% of the federal budget provides aid (other than health insurance or Social Security benefits) to individuals and families facing hardship.  (Spending on safety net programs declined in both nominal and real terms between 2013 and 2014 as the economy continued to improve.) These programs include:  the refundable portions of the Earned Income Tax Credit (Reagan program) and Child Tax Credit, which assist low- and moderate-income working families through the tax code; programs that provide cash payments to eligible individuals or households, including Supplemental Security Income for the elderly or disabled poor and unemployment insurance; various forms of in-kind assistance for low-income families and individuals, including SNAP (food stamps), school meals, low-income housing assistance, child care assistance, and assistance in meeting home energy bills; and various other programs such as those that aid abused and neglected children.

                But to a Bush who's suffering asphyxiation from The Donald, this all looks like 'free stuff' for black people. (statistically 13.2% of the American population).  

                 

                 

                 

          1. I'm not in denial about anything, as I have access to sources of information that I don't share here. It is an uphill battle, but one worth fighting. As one example, before the Boehner retirement, there already was a growing splashback from more sensible conservatives in the US House against the crazies in the Freedom Caucus who wanted to shut the government down over Planned Parenthood>

            1. Whatever gets you through the night, dear. And never mind that your defense has pretty much nothing to do with any reasonable observations on the reality of the makeup of the 21st century GOP. Insider secret ring info aside, it's painfuly obvious that that make up bears little resemblance to your wishful thinking about what constitutes the norm and what constitutes outliers. 

              Hint… the crazies aren't limited to the Freedom Caucus. They just make the general, majority, main stream bat shit craziness of the 21st century GOP look a little less crazy by comparison.

              There isn't any significant difference between the positions taken by the Freedom Caucus on marriage rights, women's access to family planning and health care, so called religious freedom, immigration, international relations, war and diplomacy, the challenge of climate change and most other issues and those taken by GOP establishment. It's only a matter of legislative methods that are a little, not that much, more or less extreme. That's all. That's the 21st century GOP, whatever you may  convince yourself it is.

            2. I was just on a Facebook thread about the long-since-gone guanopsychotic people who have hijacked the Republican brand. If there was ever a time for a real third party in this country, I think it's fast approaching. And it won't be progressives who think the Democrats are too cautious or have sold out. It'll be what's left of the Goldwater Republicans who have given up on ever getting their party back

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