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September 29, 2015 06:35 AM UTC

Tuesday Open Thread

  • 53 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“We must never assume that which is incapable of proof.”

–George Henry Lewes

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53 thoughts on “Tuesday Open Thread

  1. Tone deaf?

    The Denver Post is reporting that Timmy Neville made his decision to jump in the US Senate race last week "while hiking the Appalachian Trail." (emphasis added) I wonder if Rep Mark Sanford and the Argentinian mistress were in tow.

     

    1. Yes, Bush and Cheney are war criminals. Too bad that Obama, like every other President, is giving them a pass.

      From the article you linked to:

      ..his worthless daughter displayed the typical criminal’s offspring response and accused President Obama of lying about and slandering those who committed war crimes even after her criminal father admitted he authorized their war crimes. Although the Bush-Cheney criminal cabal have already been convicted of war crimes in absentia, they need to be arrested, sent to The Hague, and prosecuted for war crimes; if for no other reason than to incentivize the next CIA hero into refusing to commit a war crime in America’s name.

      There is a petition to the International Criminal Court to hold Cheney and Bush accountable.

      1. But it doesn't count. WE don't recognize the authority if the Hague when its decisions go AGAINST our perfect country. This'll stir up the Birchers and their retro "Get us out of the U.N." sloganeers.

        1. It's not going to happen. Certainly Obama is not going to call for any such thing no matter how many signatures.  Certainly not with the shaky nature of  some of the drone assassinations on his watch. But signing is still fun. 

        1. Yep, and before Jan. 20, 2009, we were at peace around the world, we had full employment, and the economy was running at full steam! Then Obama was inaugurated…

          Fortunately, once Romney was elected in 2012, the market tripled since 2009 and unemployment was back down around 5%.  Good thing we tossed that black guy out of office!

          When does Romney get the Nobel Prize in Economics?

  2. No, 100,000 People Did Not Gather In Peru To Support Kim Davis.

    So this is what passes for 'religious liberty' in a post-Kim Davis era?  Who'd have thunk? 

    “People underestimate the worldwide support expressed by Christians for Kim Davis. The conflict of her faith with a governmental policy on the matter of marriage has universal interest, because this conflict is not just in the United States. The matter of religious liberty is a human right that resonates with people around the world,” said Mat Staver, Founder and Chairman of Liberty Counsel.

    Not surprisingly, not a word of it was true.  

     

     

  3. Trey Gowdy, Ken Buck's ammosexual buddy from South Carolina, is apparently being recruited to run for majority leader. One problem:  who will take over chairing the Benghazi committee?

  4. Unfortunately, they aren't part of the inmate cabal running the asylum…

    Many Conservative Republicans Believe Climate Change Is a Real Threat

    The results echo a number of other recent surveys concluding that despite the talk of many of the party’s candidates, a significant number of Republicans and independent voters are inclined to support candidates who would back some form of climate action. It may also point to a problem facing Republicans seeking their party’s presidential nomination: The activists who crowd town hall meetings and Republican presidential caucuses and primaries might not reflect the broader attitude of even the Republican electorate.

      1. All I ever tell you is the concrete fact that R votes in Congress and statements by R presidential candidates demonstrate where the overwhelming majority of elected R members of Congress and presidential candidates stand on these issues.

        The fact that there are exceptions has no relevant bearing on that simple, factual, easily demonstrated reality. When you vote Republican you are voting to contribute to a Republican congressional denier majority and anti-choice majority. You can't disprove that because their votes and statements are on record.  Are there Republicans running and winning primaries as champions of the environment? Are there Republicans running and winning primaries as champions of choice?

        If not, your exceptions don't matter. In fact, even if a few were running and being elected as pro-choice environmentalist Republicans and even if they didn't follow the Susan Collins "moderate" pattern of voting against the party only when they were allowed because their one or two or even three votes didn't matter, their tiny numbers would do nothing to achieve such policies in the face of overwhelming opposition from their own party. However in any given election those tiny numbers could be enough to to give the GOP a majority or strengthen one they already have. An anti-environmental, anti-choice majority.

        So you can link me to all the articles you like and I will peruse them but it won't change the fact that right now, at this point in time, voting for any Republican presidential or congressional candidate is a vote against choice and a vote against addressing the environment and climate change. That is undeniably true. Period. You may be perfectly willing to do that because you think it's a fair trade for the conservative economic policies you support but it is what it is. The 21st century GOP is what it is. Sorry.

      2. CHB, it doesn't matter if you and 95% of the Republican Party happen to be grounded in reality. The remaining 5% make so much noise that they drown out whatever you try to say. In politics, perception becomes reality.

        1. Yeah, if I recall, the one bill he got passed out of committee in the decade he's been in office kept him out of the gutter.

          Interestingly, Rep. Daniel Webster of Florida, who is making noises about the Speakership is right up (down) there with a score of Zero since none of the only handful of bills he has introduced have even gotten out of committee.

          What a terrific Speaker he'd make — he really must wield massive influence among his peers!

          1. Hmm, surprised he didn't want to close that health clinic instead of renaming it.  You know, because it probably accepts Obamacare patients, which is just wrong!  

            Maybe the new name was intended to confuse patients so they wouldn't go there any more.

        2. Nonsense…..everyone knows Doug Lamborn is a quiet but effective leader!  wink

          Isn’t he the man who got the Ronald Reagan Memorial Highway designation for I-25 in El Paso County? It takes courageous leadership to tackle such a controversial issue and prevail.

    1. #TheSmartOne unveils his energy plan today.  (A better descriptor would be 'carbon bomb').  It's Drill Baby, Drill!  In keeping with the spirit of this part of the comment thread, it appears #TheSmartOne appears to be out-of-step with what the majority of Republicans believe regarding the environment. 

  5. RepugTurds on the House panel have a new investigatory technique — ask a question, then interrupt to put words in the witness' mouth, and above all else, don't let them, you know, testify:

    Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.) really took the cake, though. He interrupted Richards several times, and at one point even cut her off as she tried to answer a question and said it was his turn to talk.

    "This is my time. This is my time. So don't interrupt it," Gosar said.

    But the best was saved for last:

    One GOP lawmaker was quiet. Rep. Scott DesJarlais (Tenn.), a pro-life Republican who oncepressured his wife and his mistress to get abortions, gave his Q&A time to someone else.

     

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/planned-parenthood-congress-hearing_560af940e4b0dd8503099da7?utm_hp_ref=politics

    I'll bet Moddy has a great explanation for this behavior.

  6. I never understand why guys like that think calling someone a soft, fuzzy kitten is supposed to bother themwink. Sometimes the best retort is refusing to understand the barb.

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