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October 01, 2015 06:32 AM UTC

Thursday Open Thread

  • 16 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul.”

–Mark Twain

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16 thoughts on “Thursday Open Thread

    1. Good for them! They're about to replace the czar with a commissar, and some of them realize that there is no difference. They need to assemble a pure Tea Party slate and if they are unsuccessful in installing such a team (and they probably will be…..at least at first), shut down the House by blocking another squishy RINO pretending to be a red-blooded conservative.

      One of two things would them happen:  McCarthy would need to cut a deal with Pelosi and install a grand coalition leadership, or McCarthy would have to take serious steps to incorporate the teabaggers into the House leadership and carry out their demands.

  1. “Chump Change!” That’s what we would yell during Obama rallies when he referred to change that Romney was offering. Well, Chump Change is what Donald Trump is offering now in his tax proposals. Lowering the top income tax rate from 39.6% to just 25% and eliminating the estate tax are obvious giveaways to the rich. All you need to know about his plan is that Grover Norquist has given his blessing to Trump’s plan.

    Democrats have an opportunity to seize the tax issue and make it their own. I believe that Udall and Romanoff lost primarily because they didn’t give the middle class voters concrete reasons to vote for them. Women’s issues and a Balanced Budget amendment just didn’t cut it. Neither does telling the middle class to go back to school. That is just elitist and insulting.

    Instead, Democrats should offer real tax relief to the middle class. Donald Trump says that under his proposal married couples making $50,000 a year will not pay federal income taxes. Guess what. A married couple with two dependents today only pays $366 in federal income taxes. That’s Chump Change.

    A real benefit to the middle class would raise that level of income tax exclusion. Here is what a married couple with two dependents (i.e., children) pays today:

    $60,000 income — $1,866

    $70,000 income – $3,366

    $80,000 income – $4,866

    $90,000 income – $6,366

    $100,000 income – $7,866.

    And, here is a kicker — that same family that has $100,000 of capital gains and/or qualified dividend income (aka, Trust Funders) pays $0 federal income tax.

    Of course, all of those middle class families also pay state income taxes, sales taxes, property taxes, gas taxes, etc.

    Democrats should propose a plan to eliminate, or greatly reduce, federal income taxes these middle class families pay. Make the ultra-rich multi-millionaires and billionaires pick up the tab. Even the GOP base agrees with this. It’s (past) time for Democrats to offer the middle class a reason to vote for them again and expose the Chump Change that is offered by the GOP.

    1. Agreed.

      Capital gains rates should be either eliminated, or limited to gains from the sale of 1 primary residence (as determined by tax and voting records). There should also be cap of something like a maximum sale value of 10x median income every 4 years.

  2. This should be Democrats' response to just about every statement, proposal, idea, ad, press release coming from Republicans for the next year or two:

    "Well, he/she is either crazy, lying, or stupid, (name of press person). And there's no way at this time to say they aren't all three."

    Can it apply to Coffman? Lamborn? Klingonschitt? Gardner? Carson? Trump? Bush? 

    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.

  3. Yet another mass hammer kife shooting attack . . . 

    . . . another Thirsday in America. 

    “Find the cost of freedom, buried in the ground …”

    [sigh]

    1. Look – now is not the time to talk about guns. Let's respect the families of those affected. (PS – next month isn't looking good either, since we're likely to have another mass shooting sometime before then…)

        1. Precisely what they depend on. Besides, the fact that people actually die from gun violence is just an unforseeable consequence that barely registers against the pure joy and fulfillment of owning a gun.

          1. As the sheriff in Douglas County, Oregon, John Hanlin was front and center following Thursday's shooting at Umpqua Community College, which left at least 13 people dead and 20 others wounded.

            Two years ago, Hanlin was one of hundreds of sheriffs around the country to vow to stand against new gun control legislation. In a January 15, 2013, letter to Vice President Joe Biden, he wrote, "Gun control is NOT the answer to preventing heinous crimes like school shootings."

            http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/10/oregon-sheriff-umpqua-massacre-white-house-gun-control-newtown

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