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November 20, 2015 05:40 AM UTC

Friday Open Thread

  • 34 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“Most of the trouble in the world is caused by people wanting to be important.”

–T.S. Eliot

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34 thoughts on “Friday Open Thread

  1. Profiles in Cowadice

    In the United States House of Representatives on Thursday, 47 Democratic politicians voted for terror. They voted for terror as a useful political emotion in their districts, and they surely voted for terror as a successful tactic abroad. There were 47 Democrats who voted for terror on Thursday. These are their names.

    Jared is on the list. This may, and I mean very remotely may, have been a "smart" vote politcally, but it was also a fact-free, principle-free, and courage-free vote. And if Polis thinks R's won't attack him because of this, then maybe he's not sharp enough to be in congress.

    They voted for terror as a domestic political tactic, making sure that nobody will hang them for this vote, or yell at them on the radio, the next time they run for re-election. (In this, they might want to consult with Hillary Rodham Clinton, who voted for the war that kicked off this whole mess, which doesn't seem to have hurt her much at all. There is a statute of limitations even on the cruelest vote, if you play the game correctly.)

    They voted for terror as a political tactic overseas as well. Imagine you are the parents of small children, caught in the crossfire of the Syrian civil war. Maybe you've got a cousin, or a nephew, or an uncle running a small Motel 6 somewhere in the Midwest. For months now, he's been sending you a little money and begging you all to make a run for it. You finally muster up the dough, and the courage, and a strong enough immune system to make the perilous journey. And then, through the static in your cheap radio, you hear about this vote.

    Republicans have very few tactical cards to play these days. Fear is probably #1, and Jared Polis made sure it has a much greater chance of succeeding next year.

    1. Fear is a powerful weapon. Polis is not the first and will not be the last to fall victim. But it is immensely dissapointing that someone with so much political and economic power cannot overcome their fear and do the right thing.

            1. He's not a rock, V. He just crawls out from under one once or twice a day to display his proud ignorance, shameful narrow-mindedness and wholesale lack of critical-analysis capability. Actually, I think it's a rock duplex; he sublets the other half to his partner in delusional right-wing hysteria, AC.

  2. Hillary Clinton has done it again. Demonizing single payer healthcare with lies and deception.

    “Bernie Sanders has called for a roughly 9-percent tax hike on middle-class families just to cover his health-care plan,” said Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon, referring to legislation Sanders introduced in 2013, “and simple math dictates he’ll need to tax workers even more to pay for the rest of his at least $18-20 trillion agenda. If you are truly concerned about raising incomes for middle-class families, the last thing you should do is cut their take-home pay right off the bat by raising their taxes.”

    – Clinton hits Sanders on middle class tax hikes, Annie Karni, Politico

    The folks at Angry Bear provided the perfect response:

    No, actually, that’s the third-last thing you should do.  The very last thing you should do is fail to recognize that money is fungible.  And the second-last thing you should do is ignore simple math.

    As in: If you and your employer are no longer paying exorbitant premiums to Anthem Blue Cross, and are instead paying significantly less for your healthcare insurance in the form of a tax, you’ll end up with more, y’know, income.  Especially if your employer uses the savings to increase your salary or wages.

    Clinton is making it harder and harder for me to even vote for her in the general election.

    1. Truly, James. Hillary Goldman Rodham Clinton is certainly no less a water carrier for Wall Street than Barack, Thurston, or any of them, really. 'Cept Bernie …of course.

      1. I'd like to see Warren as VP.   The problem is, with Hillary the likely candidate, that would be both nominees were of the same gender.   Surely, nobody would accept a ticket of TWO men or two women.    I mean, did we ever have a ticket with both candidates of the same gender?  

        1. Reminds me of the quote from Justice Ginsberg when a reporter asked her how many women should occupy SCOTUS seats?  Her answer was that "she'd be happy when they were all women."  The reporter, somewhat aghast, said, "you can't seriously be advocating for an all woman court?"  Her answer: "Would you have a problem with an all male court?" 

      1. Not only that, but Thomas, Kennedy, Breyer, and RBG are all likely to retire in the next 4-8 years.  The next Pres could end up appointing 5 SCOTUS Justices, shaping the Court for the next 30 years.

        Imagine Trump's nominees.  Or Carson's.  Or Cruz's, or Rubio's…

        Hello President Hillary Rodham Clinton, damn glad to meet you.

      1. I have noticed, mama, these reflexive reminders we seem to get every time we start extolling the virtues of the "Bern" or lamenting the weaknesses of the "Hilldog", are indicative of the true lack of depth to their support for the candidate they assume will be the eventual nominee.

        I have never been comfortable with conventional wisdom, or the status quo, …or predictions. 

        We are still a full year away from an election in a world than can change in a very short time….Bernie is igniting the imaginations and the hopes of the younger generations…

        stay tuned…

         

         

        1. [An extraterrestrial robot and spaceship has just landed on earth. The robot steps out of the spaceship]

          “I come in peace,” it said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, “take me to your Lizard.”

          Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur and watched the nonstop frenetic news reports on television […]
 “It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see…”

          “You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?”

          “No,” said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, “nothing so simple. Nothing anything like to straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people.”

          “Odd,” said Arthur, “I thought you said it was a democracy.”

          “I did,” said Ford. “It is.”


          “So,” said Arthur, hoping he wasn’t sounding ridiculously obtuse, “why don’t the people get rid of the lizards?”

          “It honestly doesn’t occur to them,” said Ford. “They’ve all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they’ve voted in more or less approximates to the government they want.”

          “You mean they actually vote for the lizards?”

          “Oh yes,” said Ford with a shrug, “of course.”

          “But,” said Arthur, going for the big one again, “why?”

          “Because if they didn’t vote for a lizard,” said Ford, “the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?”

          “What?”

          “I said,” said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, “have you got any gin?”

          “I’ll look. Tell me about the lizards.”

          Ford shrugged again.  “Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them,” he said. “They’re completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone’s got to say it.”

          Excerpted from Douglas Adams' So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

  3. …in other words, Daesh's mother is related to Jeb¿  Perhaps we're bombing the wrong country? 

    Saudi Arabia, an ISIS That Has Made It 

    Daesh has a mother: the invasion of Iraq. But it also has a father: Saudi Arabia and its religious-industrial complex. Until that point is understood, battles may be won, but the war will be lost. Jihadists will be killed, only to be reborn again in future generations and raised on the same books.

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