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February 05, 2016 11:27 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“Nothing ever becomes real till it is experienced.”

–John Keats

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  1. Have always loved the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Musically they are phenomenal, and I respect them even more after learning they'll be playing benefits for Bernie. 

    Flea had this to say about the Socialist Jew:

    A year ago, nobody really cared about Bernie Sanders or knew who he was.

    Well, I did. And I gave him a hun to kick it off

    And here's a guy that is not relying on fear-mongering or Super PACs or billions of dollars. He's just talking about issues that really affect us as human beings, like caring about each other and evening the playing field.

    Our Christian Brothers and Sisters will surely agree with that.

    People try to demonize it like, "Socialism is the next step to communism." That's just insane silliness. Bernie isn't talking about eliminating the spirit of capitalism in terms of the competitive spirit of people being able to lift themselves up by their bootstraps through discipline and hard work and creativity and ingenuity. He's not trying to eliminate making something great of yourself and being part of the American dream. He's just saying, "Let's even the playing field so everybody can get a decent education and have an opportunity to get health care and take care of themselves and educate themselves." That's what civilization should be about. The bottom line is that everybody deserves to get a good education. This country is completely capable economically of providing a high-grade education for everybody regardless of their economic class.

    And boy, wouldn't the wheels of our Capitalist Juggernaut be stronger than ever with a highly educated working class (Progressive goal) in whom the country has invested (Conservative principle)?

    And everybody deserves to have a high grade of health care regardless of their economic class. That is what's going to help [reduce] crime and poverty. That is what's going to make this country a beautiful, vibrant place.

    Or we can reconcile ourselves that we'll never get anything done without compromising with our Fascist, Warmongering, Anti-Social, Anti-Government Friends on the Right.

    People can still get rich, but it's just giving everybody a chance that everybody deserves.

  2. Bad Water in Colorado's Raton Basin

    From the Styx, by excellent Colorado environmental writer Peggy Tibbets, reports:

    Gas drilling arrived in southern Raton Basin [see map below] in the late 1990s, and along with it came heavy traffic, noise and what many locals say is contaminated water.

    Numerous residents discovered they had a chemical in their water called “tert-Butyl alcohol” or “TBA.”

    The COGCC investigated the matter and published a report suggesting TBA was naturally occurring, among other explanations. Now the case is closed and the report not only leaves more questions than it answers, but it resigns residents to living with water they dare not drink.

    The COGCC advocated for less testing (less governmental overreach, EPA = bad, right?), and so the water (and air) were not tested. You don't find contaminants if you don't test for them. Doesn't mean that they're not there, and having toxic effects.

    1.  

      Now the case is closed and the report not only leaves more questions than it answers, but it resigns residents to living with water they dare not drink. 

      This outcome is quite common. The COGCC is still a promotional firm, mandated to make sure O&G gets ALL the recoverable resource out of the ground. Protecting health and safety is secondary to protecting mineral rights and profits… nothing new.

      As I said elsewhere…Governor Frackenlooper will see to it that his friends are protected.

  3. Yesterday Zap posted about HRC's tin ear in bragging about Kissinger's endorsement. Yep. She wants more liberal Dems to like her better (or like her some) and liberal Dems sure do hate Kissinger while Rs aren't going to vote in a general for a Clinton because Kissie gave her a thumbs up. So I'd have kept quiet about that one. But enough about HRC's supporters. How about Trump's?

    A white nationalist group that made robocalls on behalf of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump in Iowa is now targeting New Hampshire voters ahead of next week's primary.

    "We don't need Muslims. We need smart, well-educated white people," says one of the voices on the call. 

    "I am a farmer and white nationalist," says another. "Support Donald Trump." 

    Listen to the call here.

  4. Fireworks at the republican debate tonight…Rubio getting reamed by Christie..Carson on Cruz…Now Trump dissing the audience of “donors”…Now Bush and Trump getting DOWN…just before break…great script writing…Emmys, I'm thinking…

    1. Yup. The discussion on waterboarding and torture was nauseating. Trump, you want to bring waterboarding back? Trump: Yes, and worse. Cruz? Yes, because waterboarding isn't torture, and it should be used rarely. Jeb, your thoughts? Jeb: bring it back. OMFG.

       

      1. Water boarding is the same technique that used to be called water torture and for which people have been prosecuted and convicted going back over 100 years and as recently as the 1970s both in US military and civilian courts. That's more than enough legal precedent for the notion that it's not torture and/or not illegal to be utterly ridiculous but talking heads never bring any of that up. They could check it out with a few minutes of googling (just as GW's lawyers and AG could have done) but it's so much easier not to bother and just treat it as a difference of opinion. Just like they did with the ridiculous, bogus Swift Boat accusations against Kerry, treating a tissue of non-existent reports, non-existent signatures and initials, testimony from a doctor who's name or initials don't appear on any of Kerry's medical records versus perfectly legit documented fact as just two differing opinions. 

  5. The first Jewish President – food for thought.

    I can relate to this from my own family history – my mother kept the secular Jewish take-care-of the-community social justice ethic, even while she and the rest of the family fled their Jewish names, their Jewish identities, and their Jewish history as fast and far as they could.

    I wonder how our Teavangelicals, who like to promote "Judeo-Christian morality" and loyalty to Israel, in service to an end-times scenario in which Jews return to the Holy Land, will relate if Bernie becomes the Democratic nominee and/or the winner of the election in 2016.  Will they talk about his Jewishness? Use dog whistle anti-Semitic attacks? Claim that he's a secret Muslim? What do you think?

     

     

     

      1. "The first Jewish president…….what do you think?"   I, for one, have grown really weary of the continual injection of religion into our national political scene; especially fundamentalist Christianity. Guess these politicians don't understand Article VI of the US Constitution. 

        1. Grow tired of it all you want. It's still a reality. Presidential candidates are still expected to profess faith in God and it had better be some flavor of Christian faith. Especially in your party.

        2. In fact, encourage other Republicans to grow tired of it also. Growing tired of the sectarian hold on our politics is a good thing.

          However, it would be nice if your influence could persuade your party's candidates. Cruz is running as a full blown Rushdoony Dominionist who thinks that the Constitution is subordinate to the Bible.

          Rubio seems to have set his sights not on Commander in Chief but as Pastor in Chief.

          The least religiously motivated is Trump, who only finds it necessary to osculate the rump of the prosperity gospel preachers.

          Really, Republican candidates, for any office, act like they must pass the faith commitment at Colorado Christian University.

        3. And BTW, CHB. First Jewish President is more akin to first African American or first Hispanic as practicing the religion is entirely optional to the identity. Bernie is non-religious so he isn't a Jew in the same way a Methodist is a Methodist. If you're born a Jew you're a Jew as so many Christian raised children of so many Jewish parents who themselves converted to Christianity from the time of the Inquisition through the Holocaust learned the hard way. It's not a choice.

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