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Why I support Perlmutter for Senate

by: TakeBackTheHouse

Fri Dec 19, 2008 at 15:53:57 PM MST


(Progressives and Moderates united for a common purpose - promoted by redstateblues)

An anecdote, slightly filtered...

So, on election night I was standing in a room with Rep. Perlmutter, Sen-elect Udall, and Secretary-designate Salazar.

Ed was holding forth on his vision for the post-election future, and said exactly the things that would normally make me cringe (even if it was awesome for my ego that I got to stand next to a cheese tray with such heavy hitters.)

Perlmutter said that now we held the levers of power, we had to show that we could build coalitions, work across the aisle, and embrace a more centrist agenda. He poked me in the chest with his index finger and said (in a slightly more colorful way)

"Even though there are ~some people~ who will [object to me] for doing it every step of the way, it is what we have to do."
TakeBackTheHouse :: Why I support Perlmutter for Senate
People throwing Progressives under the bus pisses me off, and I will [object to them] doing it every step of the way. Usually it betrays an ignorance of what Progressive values really are. When polled on nearly every topic, the vast majority of Americans outside of the DC power circles hold Progressive values. When people try to 'balance' the needs of millions of citizens with the desires of the wealthiest fraction, and when they think that the 'center' is a place where we give up half our rights in order give the wealthiest double what they ask, it raises my indignation.

But here's the thing; Perlmutter is not just another weak valued 'Centrist' who thinks capitulation is compromise. He is an actual Moderate who, much more often than not, represents the real middle of Colorado. For years the Bush-dogs have called the 'center' the territory between the extreme Right and sanity, and have called 'moderation' voting with their party the 85% of the time when it doesn't matter. Perlmutter reclaims the rhetoric of Centerism for ~gasp~ the actual middle. He supports our troops by actually protecting and providing for the soldiers and veterans. He supports working families by actually supporting workers.

He is the real moderate representative of a moderate district in a moderate state. Sure, that puts him well to the Right of me, and he is not always a paragon of perfect virtue*, but he rarely strays too far from the best interests of his constituents, and he never does anything without input from all stakeholders and real reflection.

It reminds me of the case of Morgan Carroll. Despite being an unapologetic progressive, she garnered a lot of crossover votes by showing the Republicans of her district that her positions were not just knee-jerk responses, or sold to highest bidders, but that they were reached through a process of engaged deliberation. She met with them, listened to them, and when she had an opinion of her own she voiced it. Her voters might not agree with her on many issues, but they trusted her to deal rationally with the future issues that nobody saw coming.

That is where I am on Perlmutter. He doesn't always vote the way I want him to, but he approaches most votes in a way I trust and respect. He stays available to his district, he asks questions, and when the time comes he is unafraid to express his leadership. I don't know what odds he has in the horse race of appointments, but I can go on record right now to say that any world where I can be a critic of Sen. Perlmutter's choices is already a better world than the one where we are now.

Go Ed!

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* - On imperfect virtue: Retro-active immunity was a lawless pander to cover the asses of a corrupt administration, unaccountable executives, and complicit Democrats on important committees. By design, we will never know how poisonous that law is. I question who Perlmutter represented on that vote and consider it an act, not of conscience, but of raw political calculation. It burned the Constitution and abused the judicial process for the narrowest and worst constituency imaginable. (See Ed, I love ya, but will still call them as I see them.)

[crossposted as a comment at SquareState.net]

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The more I think about it
the more I am starting to agree with you that Rep. Perlmutter would be the best choice to represent Colorado in the Senate. That is a great quote, and I would be proud to work my butt off to get him elected in '10. Great diary Aaron.

We are all triguardian, but some of us are more triguardian than others.

Thanks
Cool. Thanks for the promote!

I would work for him too, and I think there are a lot of people who would support him that would agree with me on nothing else.

CD7 is a district that voted for Bob Beauprez over and over, and it has no shortage of people on every fringe of the spectrum, but Perlmutter has convincingly won them all over. Not only do I think he would unite the Dems behind our ticket, I think he is actually the best consensus candidate for both parties.


[ Parent ]
The important thing if Ed gets the appointment
would be to find someone who can appeal to the center in CD-7 the way Ed has. It would really say something about the Democrats if we could not only get Perlmutter to the Senate, but keep his seat a D.

We are all triguardian, but some of us are more triguardian than others.

[ Parent ]
Let's not go overboard here
CD7 is a district that voted for Bob Beauprez over and over

Or, you know. just over, the one time. Beauprez won by the skin of his teeth (the closest margin in the nation) in 2002, and then again in 2004 against a very flawed candidate. Not over and over.

"Please don't eat any peanuts out of anyone's crap." - LaughingBoy


[ Parent ]
Ed has my vote as well!
Ed Perlmutter is an honest, intelligent leader who is likable and principled. He has the best chance of being re-elected and thus helping Ritter and the 2010 Democratic ticket. Ed Perlmutter served in the State Senate, knows Colorado issues as well as national issues. He has been an excellent U.S. Rep. and his re-election in a Republican leaning district shows his talent, savvy and likability.

Ed is the real deal
Perlmutter is an honest, hard-working and passionate guy, in a way we don't often see. He knows what he believes in, and is willing to fight tooth and nail for his constituents. I urge anyone who hasn't written to Governor to do so in support of Perlmutter. To the people who have already written in support of Hick or Romanoff, seriously consider the comments and article above, maybe you will change your mind.  

What about the seat?
I really like Perlmutter, I'd have no problem with him being named Senator. What about holding the 7th CD though? I haven't heard anyone give an answer to this question.

Is there a strong candidate ready to run? Which Republicans would be in the race? Or is the seat not that important in the grand scheme of things so it's not really a concern?  


The registration game has changed since the days of Both Ways Bob
Adams: almost 70,000 active Dems. Nearly 25,000 more active Dems than Rs.

Arapahoe: 120,000 total registered Dems. More than Republicans.

Couldn't find JeffCo numbers, but I thought there were more Dems there too.

Don't know who would be running though. Any state legislators from CD-7 getting term limited?

We are all triguardian, but some of us are more triguardian than others.


[ Parent ]
The Point is
That the Republicans have no, absolutely no bench in the district.  I think the new Republican who took over Debbie Stafford's seat in South Aurora is the only Republican legislator in the district.

And what about Andy Kerr?  He'd be great.


[ Parent ]
are there no Repub candidates in all of Aurora or JeffCo?
...where am I?  what year is this?

[ Parent ]
does Joe Rogers still live in CD 7?
Isn't it his turn to run?  (First, Both Ways, then Ricky O'Donnell)

[ Parent ]
Now THERE'S a name we haven't heard in awhile


[ Parent ]
Not in the Aurora or Jeffco
portions that are in the 7th. On the west side, it's north Lakewood, Wheat Ridge and Arvada. On the east, it's Aurora north of Buckley AFB. Those are the most Democratic parts of Jeffco and Aurora (farther south on both sides you run into serious Republican territory on the way to Douglas County.)

Craig is right, the GOP has almost no bench in the district unless you look outside the conventional pool for Congress. (There are possibilities on city councils and from the World of Business. There are some old war horses that could be hauled in from pasture, too.)

"Please don't eat any peanuts out of anyone's crap." - LaughingBoy


[ Parent ]
Cindy Acree
HD 40 Rep elect Cindy Acree is in CD 6.  HD 30, HD 42 and HD36 are the main Aurora house districts that have precincts in CD 7.  

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[ Parent ]
Any state legislators from CD-7 getting term limited?
   Several.  And a few others who were not term-limited, but would probably run anyway.  (One big problem they would have would be fundraising unless they were prepared to resign from the General Assembly.)

[ Parent ]
CD 7 Candidates
CD7 has several well qualified Democratic Party candidates.  A couple of the best are in the Legislature.

 Depending on when Gov. Ritter sets the special election date 2 of the highest qualified (IMHO) might or might not run.  Quitting a seat to run is the reason.  If the special election is set to late summer the Dem field is excellent.

At the moment I cannot think of a Republican who can compete with any of the Dems in the CD. The typical field of candidates is about 12 years out of date.

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[ Parent ]
What about?
What about Peggy Lamm or Herb Rubenstein?  They ran for the open seat last time.  

[ Parent ]
This is a joke right?
Peggy ran a horrible campaign and Herb Rubenstein had some very left field ideas.  They would not be viable at all.

[ Parent ]
More details?
I thought they were both good candidates, but am unaware of the details you spoke of. I know Herb was opposed to the war from the beginning, but where else was he in "left field".  

[ Parent ]
It's not his war opposition.
He thought that we should put cameras in classrooms and that certain things should not be subsidized, such as when someone has a car accident in the middle of an area that isn't heavily trafficked and the cops come out.  Or a burglary.  I hardly had an issue with his opposition to the war.

As for Peggy, I just didn't like the campaign she ran.  I thought it was below the belt, especially her last minute attack on Perlmutter for a Senate Bill vote he made while in the State Senate.  


[ Parent ]
Herb was the gift
that just wouldn't quit giving. I don't think there was a lucid moment in his entire campaign. If he throws in for the 7th, at least there will be no shortage of jaw-dropping moments for Pols to ridicule.

Lamm burned her bridges in that election. She doesn't have a prayer of running again, it was a scorched earth campaign.

"Please don't eat any peanuts out of anyone's crap." - LaughingBoy


[ Parent ]
You said it more succinctly than I could have.
I usually tried to stay out of primaries below the Presidential level.  But this one was a definite exception.  Mainly based on my impression that Perlmutter would have been good and ran a good campaign while Lamm and Herb came off exactly as you said.  

[ Parent ]
Ok, thanks...
Thanks for the feedback. At the time however, his views on the war we still too "left" for many people, in a country that is very right of the center in my view.  Many people disagree with that, but it seems that way to me.  Perlmutter has done well no question. I just hope we can keep the 7th CD if he goes to the Senate.
I wonder if Morgan is in the 6th or the 7th?  She would be an excellent candidate.  

[ Parent ]
Morgan Carroll
lives in the 7th CD.

"Please don't eat any peanuts out of anyone's crap." - LaughingBoy

[ Parent ]
Morgan is in CD7.
She just won SD29, which is completely contained within CD7.  

She has been one of the names floated for the seat already.  


[ Parent ]
No problem
There are plenty of people to replace Ed, and no good Republican challengers. Finding someone to fill his seat is no excuse.  

[ Parent ]
Remember
You don't have to live in the district to run. Bob Beauprez didn't live in CD-7 when he first ran.

And before you say, "But being called an carpetbagger would hurt your chances," poll after poll has shown that ultimately voters don't really care where you live.


[ Parent ]
So then...
Who would run for the 7th on the Republican side? Not many great candidates come to mind, maybe Troy Eid?

[ Parent ]
Nothing Like
There is nothing like living with your voters to understand their issues, because they are your issues too.  And, your voters might learn who you are versus what your highly paid PR people decide you are.

I cannot understand why some politicians are only running for personal gain and not to represent their districts.


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[ Parent ]
True
but the possibility is someone running from within sight of the district -- south of the line in Aurora or Lakewood, for instance -- not jetting in a candidate from Grand Junction. You couldn't tell where the boundary between the 6th and 7th is unless you had a map, it's not like the neighborhoods suddenly change from moderately liberal to rabidly conservative within blocks. (You have to head farther south for that to happen.)

That said, if Andrew Romanoff wanted to move to Lakewood, I wouldn't complain.

"Please don't eat any peanuts out of anyone's crap." - LaughingBoy


[ Parent ]
State Senators
Honestly the biggest problem there is that (as stated before) they would have to resign. Aside from that, the race would unfold very quickly so the ideal person would be someone with LOTS of connections and experience so they can hit the ground running.

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I don't think so
Unless there is some specific law that requires it no one running would have to resign from anything - unless they win.

Tea party support in the primary.

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Fundraising
It's the fundraising problem.  Can't fundraise while in session.

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[ Parent ]
Oh...
Maybe they could shift the session so every Dem in the leg could run :)

Tea party support in the primary.

[ Parent ]
Conni problem
The session is set by the Colorado Constitution Article V Section 7 which dictates the session.

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[ Parent ]
It's the same reason
Joan Fitz-Gerald quit her seat so she could run for the 2nd. Any legislator would have to do it to run in the special -- unless Ritter set the election late enough, and that would be unacceptable leaving the seat vacant so long.  

"Please don't eat any peanuts out of anyone's crap." - LaughingBoy

[ Parent ]
By The Way
I support Perlmutter as well.  He got me, a former Jeffco Republican Chair to be on his steering committee.  That says it all for me and should be a big indication to you guys that this is the guy.

This news clinches it for me.


[ Parent ]
I helped Perlmutter in '06.
I put a lot of time and effort into helping him and (I don't say this very much) I believe in him as a Congressman and as a Senator.  I don't live in CD-7 and he's not my congressman, but I have adopted him as my congressman.  This is the guy who will listen to regular people.  He will make himself accessible to his constituents and he will build consensus in a way that doesn't alienate people.  Would I put that much effort into a senate race for him?  You bet your ass I will.    

I don't know squat about Perlmutter...
(he's the only other person who turned me down for an interview) but I respect the statements of the many here about him. So - go Ed.

Tea party support in the primary.

Well, if he didn't interview with you, I reject him.


[ Parent ]
If he refused the interview
that clinches it, Perlmutter is our next U.S. Senator.

"Please don't eat any peanuts out of anyone's crap." - LaughingBoy

[ Parent ]
Of course Salazar did do the interview...
...and now he's going to be Secretary of the Interior :)

Tea party support in the primary.

[ Parent ]
If only
you'd interviewed John Salazar, then he'd be secretary of agriculture by now!

"Please don't eat any peanuts out of anyone's crap." - LaughingBoy

[ Parent ]
He did agree to the interview
But he is never in the Denver area so there was never a location that worked for both of us. I now wish even more there had been some way to make it work as I think what he is planning on doing will make a significant difference.

I don't know how good a job I do of capturing what drives each person I interview - but I did believe from my interview of Ken Salazar that if offered the Interior Department - that he would take it. And he did.

So either it does provide a good read of the person, or I was just lucky.

Tea party support in the primary.


[ Parent ]
Andy Kerr...
Is probably the best qualified to fill and keep Ed's seat. He's a dynamo legislator much in the image of Perlmutter, and wouldn't have any problems serving CD-7.

The next couple of weeks will be interesting, to say the least.

I knew a stripper named Skyler once.  --TaxCheatGeithner


isn't he 12 years old?


[ Parent ]
You got a problem with that?
Colorado has never elected a 12-year-old governor or senator, and there are a LOT of Colorado residents who are, or have been, 12 years old. It's time.

"Please don't eat any peanuts out of anyone's crap." - LaughingBoy

[ Parent ]
Well that opens up a whole new group of candidates
for Laughing Boy's thread. Maybe I can play that game after all!

I want a nickel every time someone uses the "We are all triguardian" joke, or I start posting more naked pictures of politicians.

[ Parent ]
Jeez, Jamba, do you have something against youth?
You've been complaining about 14-year-old deputy AGs and now you're unhappy about 12-year-olds in Congress. Don't you know they are the future of America? I say let's get more teens and pre-teens in positions of power! Preferably highly-paid positions of power!

On a different and unrelated note, I have a 14-year-old son who's interested in public service....


[ Parent ]
Damn.
If only Ref L passed.  Then he could run in 7 years.  

[ Parent ]
I believe your son
could run for county commissioner ... and that's a well paying gig.

"Please don't eat any peanuts out of anyone's crap." - LaughingBoy

[ Parent ]
Youth is wasted on the young.
...damn, I think I just coined a fab new phrase!

[ Parent ]
Groovy!


"Please don't eat any peanuts out of anyone's crap." - LaughingBoy

[ Parent ]
Something I have told my daughters many times
They of course roll their eyes when I do.

Tea party support in the primary.

[ Parent ]
Perlmutter would probably make a good senator
but not because he wants to "build coalitions" and "work across the aisle."  How has that worked out for us in the past?

The Republicans do not want to be in any coalition that we would build, and have no intention of working across the aisle.  Every time we try it, they bitch-slap us.

I don't want to work with them.  I want to beat 'em.


Pearlmutter is the best fit
I agree Ed would be the best fit for the seat. I live in the 7th and worked for Peggy Lamm in the primary in 2006, but did a little work for Ed in the general election.  He has established himself as a credible legislator and while progressive is mainstream enough to win a statewide race. A key consideration would be the 2010 race and who would be best for a statewide race and be able to raise the money for such a race. The fact is, a midterm election historically goes against the party in power so anyone who thinks the 2010 Senate race would be a lock for the Dem is making a grave miscalculation.

As for a replacement rep in the 7th CD, my choice would be Morgan Carroll, two term state representative who was recently elected State Senator in SD 29 with 69% of the vote (that defines the word "electability"). Although not in SD 29, I have followed her record in the Legislature, and as the OP stated, even though she is a progressive by nature she has proven herself an effective legislator who can build a consensus among competing interests and get legislation passed. She is all about transparency and accountability in government, issues that are of prime concern as the American people are shell shocked over the trillions in bailouts they are funding, with no good explanations of "why?".


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I think both of those would be very strong moves
We Dems have an incredible bench so there are several very good choices. But Ed Perlmutter & Morgan Carroll would be a great two-fer.

Tea party support in the primary.

[ Parent ]
Perlmutter + Kerr
If Perlmutter gets the nod then Andy Kerr is a natural for CD7. It's not my district, but Andy is exactly the kind of guy I wish represented me. Remember, he's only 7 years younger than our president-elect. It would be nice to have some people in Washington who know what it's like to have young kids and be trying to figure out how to balance a house payment with the college fund and retirment planning. Andy has worked on practical, workable solutions as a state legislator. He could definitely hold on to the seat for the Dems.  

[ Parent ]
I also know Andy.
He's a good man and definitely someone I would help if Perlmutter gets elevated.  

[ Parent ]
Kerr
Kerr is definitely a good guy just not sure he has the experience to run on that level. It might not be, as they say, his time. Although I don't doubt he is going to go places.  

[ Parent ]
It is time for a new face and significant change in Washington.

The recent election of Mark Udall to the US Senate proves Colorado voters are ready for progressive US Senators.

When I look at voting records, I have difficulty distinguishing Congressman Perlmutter from the Republicans-It was not surprising that they failed to vigorously oppose him, since he voted in agreement with them so often. Hopefully, Ed will rediscover his spine, with a Democratic majority in the US Senate and our new Congresswoman Markey replacing the devisive idealogue Musgrave.

Many Jefferson County Democrats are upset with Perlmutter, who voted for the massive bailout of irresponsible banking and financial institutions, in addition to his traitorous betrayal of our Bill of Rights, with his vote for telecom immunity. Indeed when he made lame, deceitful explanations and excuses for his vote against restoration of the 4th Amendment, at a meeting of Jefferson County Democrats, he was left standing in the back of the room after the meeting started and not enough chairs were available.

If he had stood up for our rights in Congress, he would have gladly been offered the seat of honor, along with a standing ovation and our continued support.

Dianne Degette has also failed to vote as boldly for progressive causes as her secure congressional district allowed her to. Despite having been a Congresswoman, since 1994, she does not appear to have successfully sponsored or cosponsored much legislation.

Degette also voted for the massive bailout of the speculators and gamblers who triggered the current financial meltdown. Degette and Perlmutter will both need to defend their bailout votes, in 2010.

Colorado voters voted for real change,in 2008, not a rescue from responsibility for the wealthiest two percent, who continue to exploit the other ninety eight percent.

Strickland lost US Senate races twice and as a Vice President of a health insurance company, he has become part of the health care problem, not part of the solution.

Joan Fitzgerald or Mike Miles would both be great US Senators.  Fitzgerald is a proven fundraiser who would have won in Congressional District 2, if Jared Polis was not able to outspend her, with his personal fortune.

Romanov would also be more re-electable, in 2010, than Perlmutter or Degette, since he is not tainted by the irresponsible Wall Street bailout vote.


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