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August 26, 2009 03:51 PM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.”

–Bertrand Russell

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27 thoughts on “Wednesday Open Thread

  1. Oh, please let this come to pass…..

    “Troops challenging the legitimacy of President Barack Obama as commander-in-chief — including at least one who is fighting deployment — should take heed:  Gunnery Sgt. Hartman wants to know your “major malfunction.”

    “R. Lee Ermey, the Marine-turned-actor whose role as drill instructor Gunny Hartman in the late Stanley Kubrick’s “Full Metal Jacket” has all but placed the Vietnam veteran in the pantheon of Marine heroes alongside “Chesty” Puller, Smedley Butler and Dan Daly, isn’t buying anyone’s political objector status.

    “I haven’t heard about those guys,” Ermey told Military.com during an Aug. 21 interview. “If I do run across them though, trust me, I’ll square them away.”

    http://www.military.com/news/a

    1. What’s going on here?  Why does this story continue to have legs?

      Does Dobbs believe that the real birth certificate lists the president as a Muslim; is that what he is concerned about?

      Back in the day some governments did indicate religion on certificates.  In today’s world unique characteristics such as this are celebrated to show the individual has a deeper world view.

      Tea-Bagging Queen Rachel Maddow – Lou Dobbs

  2. Fox31 shows up yesterday to do a story on the DAV National Convention, and interview some vets about what we do. At least, that’s what they told us.

    Instead, Deb Takahara shows up at the convention with the “VA’s End of Life Discussion” plan and starts asking the most leading questions of anyone she can find.

    Problem is, most vets already know about this AND DON’T CARE, so she works the crowd until she gets the single response she wants.

    The “story” here (and that’s the best word for it, ’cause it ain’t news:)

    http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-

    Of all the people she talked to at the convention, she could only get ONE to say that it’s an outrage, and another who could “kind of” not like it. Somehow, all the other statements (mine included) didn’t manage to make it on air.

    And, even though she had unlimited access to the convention and the senior offices, she somehow “forgot” to talk to anyone who had any official standing on the issue…y’know, Director of Legislation, Communications Director, National Commander…people who have testified to Congress or the VA Secy on the issue.

    I officially pronounce Fox31 the Steaming Turd of Denver News.

    1. members … you always point to some safe harbor leader that is co-opted.

      I’m sure you’ll be calling some other news outfit a turd next year when businesses (employers!) speak out against some new tax or fee … I can hear you claiming … why didn’t they talk to the Chamber CEO (Democrat political campaign manager) Brough?

      When Tom Donahoe kicks it at the US Chamber, should businesses assume a viable replacement might be the head of ACORN or John Edward’s former campaign manager/chief of staff?

      1. The reporter in question said that she wanted to do a story about the CONVENTION…what the DAV does, what programs we have for disabled vets, award winners, etc.

        When she got to the place, she already had the stupid pamphlet out and dog-eared at the one page in question, and walked around trying to find someone that would give her the quote she wanted.

        Once she got what she wanted, she bailed…even thought several people in the senior leadership had set aside some time to talk to her. And they would’ve had a statement about this very document. We’re already working with the VA to revise it.

        As far as the rest of your (normally) incomprehensible rant, WTF? Do you just have various babbling quotes ready on the clipboard,and you just cut n paste something randomly?

          1. He actually gives a shit about Vets, active duty, etc…

            I for one appreciate his efforts to revise the material, remove death counseling indicators, etc…

            Now go bailout Schwenkler, don’t you have a flag burning to conduct.

            1. …have you ever set foot in a VA Hospital? Vet Center? Can you even ID one on a Map?

              If you did, you’d know what out-f*ckin’-standing people work at these places. They could be making a hell of a lot more soaking up the excess profits of the health care industry, and yet many of them stay at the VHA for 30+ years.

              Most of the them are vets. ALL of them know that the care they give is different, because they know the wounds they treat come from War.

              There are no “Death Counseling Indicators,” or “Death Panels” at the VA. The document in question (1st edition found here: http://www.ethics.va.gov/YLYC/… Second edition is being revised and is NOT being given to patients at the VHA )

              is written in plain English with no Harvard words. It’s intended for an audience that has suffered hardship, wars, and wounds. We don’t want sunshine blown up our asses when we’re at this point – and this document doesn’t do that.

              I’m sorry that this discussion is upsetting those front-line members of the 101st Typewriter Brigade, but when I’m suffering from ALS brought on by Gulf War Syndrome, I don’t want to screw around. I’ve already seen death and destruction – I’m not going to get upset about a few paragraphs in a stupid pamphlet from the VHA.

              ‘Tad, if you want to keep hooting about this, you’re invited to Shut the Fuck Up until you work a couple of weeks at a VHA hospital, and see first-hand what a Vietnam Vet with Agent Orange-induced Parkinsons’ looks like.

              1. ….for six months and then stayed on as a volunteer for another six.

                In that time we had two group memorial services for any family members who wished to attend. The room would always be packed. They would bring photographs and other memorabilia and if they wished, speak to the group about their loved one.

                And almost to a person, they praised the VA staff.

                Well, not surprising since this socialist government run program is rated the highest of any HC model in the country…….

                (And note that GHWB put cronies in charge and ran it into the ground and that “draft dodger” Clinton appointed someone who got the vets the care we promised them.  Then, the next Boosh came along…..

      1. is to be prepared to act even when you doubt, but be willing and even eager, to change your opinion and direction based on new or superior information.

        The term in the markets is “trading” in politics it is called “flip flopping.”

        Of course this is different than changing your position based on pressure which is either called “reflecting the will of your constituents” or “caving” depending on your point of view.  

  3. http://www.denverpost.com/ci_1


    A man who allegedly threatened to kill the family of Boulder abortion provider Dr. Warren Hern has been indicted by a federal grand jury in Denver.

    Donald Hertz, 70, of Spokane, Wash., was indicted on charges of making telephone threats to Hern’s office and violations of the federal Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act (FACE).



    The threat to Hern’s family came June 23, three weeks after [George] Tiller was shot to death on May 31 while at church, Hern said.

    “We received an anonymous call saying there were two Vietnam veterans coming from Spanish Fork, Utah, to Boulder to hurt my family,” Hern said.

    This just proves that the left and right are exactly the same when it comes to political violence, since I once saw a bumper sticker that called Bush an idiot.

      1. I should have found an example of Democrats being equally racist. I once heard a story about a Democrat who laughed at a Carlos Mencia joke. There, everybody’s equivalent again.

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