We learned the parliamentarian sent the reconciliation bill (the “fix-it” package) back to the House this morning to fix a procedural portion. Content-wise, there may be enough votes for it the way it is. Adding the public option will likely change that, possibly defeating the whole bill.
My question for Andrew: “If all of your talk (and Sirota’s on your behalf) is not grandstanding, but really about getting the public option, why not stand with Senator Michael Bennet and the rest of the Senate (and 186 national groups that support passing reconciliation without it now), and pledge to support a separate public option bill as soon as possible? A thumbs-up or thumbs-down vote on a public option-only bill would protect the rest of the goodies in the recon bill now, and might give you some bragging rights later that it was your idea (it wouldn’t be, but we won’t tell anyone).
So how about it, Mr. Romanoff? Is this really about adding in a public option, or is this about scoring campaign points at the expense of sick people who need more reform now? Speaking on behalf of many families I met this past year who need health insurance desperately, most of us don’t care who gets credit — you or Senator Bennet. We just want our loved ones to go to bed at night without pain and worry. If it is about getting the public option for us, we expect you to stand with Senator Bennet for a separate, stand-alone bill.
Please answer the question. Will you, or will you not, stand with the Senate on a separate public option bill? The floor is yours, Mr. former Speaker.
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60 votes aren’t in the Senate, but 51 likely are.
Where on Earth are you getting that from? Care to post a link to back up your made up claims?
that was spurred on by Bennet’s letter counted 54 votes for the public option in 2009 when we were trying to get a bipartisan bill.
Currently the count is at 41. Their goal was to get 50 out of the 54 Senators to commit to re-supporting the Public Option – which considering the vote count went from 4 people to 41 in 3 weeks seems very possible.
To get to 60 however, would be next to impossible.
Offering the amendment now is the clearest way to get the Public Option.
and there is really no excuse not to.
http://www.coloradopols.com/di…
As the VP can cast the deciding vote.
Bennet wrote his letter in 2010, after the 54 you counted in 2009.
By your math, because the count went from 4 to 41 in three weeks getting to 50 should be easy, hell we were adding almost 14 per week- we just need a fourth week. By that same reasoning, we’d have just needed a fifth week to get 60. (And just a few more to get 100.)
Offering the public option now is not necessarily the clearest way to get it, no matter what David (kill the bill and start over) Sirota says. But if an Amendment is offered, the best place to do it is in the House. So I’m sure you are pressuring degette and Polis and we’re just not seeing it, right? Because this is all about improving healthcare, not campaign stunting, right?
Hell, by summer we’ll have more than 500 senators in favor of a public option. Then there’s no stopping us! Wade’s math rules!
He never said there were more than 100 Senators.
I bet Sirota believes we can get 500 senators to back the public option — if we all clap our hands!
a true fan of the Public Option
I’ve been on a public option since the late 80’s – and while it’s not perfect, my complaints have been small.
I’ve always endorsed it for everyone. Set the premiums fairly and it’s a no brainer.
Unfortunately, the D voters who favor serious reform have consistently overreached at the wrong time and HCR has been backburnered over and over and over.
Until now. You really think the best way to get a public option was to amend it into the reconciliation bill? I don’t. Neither did a whole bunch of Senators and other organizations – which doesn’t mean I’m right. But that I disagree with you and Sirota and FDL and Romanoff doesn’t make me wrong.
but rather over the relative values of competing political strategies. The fact that you and those arguing your side seem unable or unwilling to make that distinction is one of the reasons that you have so far failed to produce any compelling arguments.
If you want to argue that the strategy you have been recommending (amending the reconiciliation bill to include a public option) would have been the best strategy, then you have to list all alternative strategies, their relative risks and benefits, and argue why the one you favor is the best. You have never done anything even remotely resembling that.
This shallow, dysfunctional game of “you’re against the X if you are against my strategy for achieving X” (which we’ve seen in many incarnations, used by many different kinds of posters, in reference to many different issues) lowers the level of discourse, and produces more noise than wisdom.
Let’s raise the level of discourse and have real debates about the issues, making real arguments. I truly want to see those who disagree on various issues do that more and more effectively, even (especially) those who disagree with me. That is how we get to the best policies and the best strategies for implementing them.
I really, really want some of that unicorn fairy dust that (Dick) Morris, Zerota and Andy Liebernoff are apparently snorting.
It leads to delusions like this: “It only took one senator to make everything just right!”
Because he knew the only way it had a chance to pass was through reconciliation, where only 51 votes are needed. And didn’t the House already pass a public option once? Yes, and they’ll likely do it again if the Senate shows some leadership.
Anyone who would actually like to see a public option pass (this clearly doesn’t include those woring with the Bennet campaign), knows reconciliation is the public option’s only chance.
So what has changed between now and last month when Bennet favored passing a public option through reconciliation? I think it might have something to do with the special interests reining in their pawn, I mean Senator Bennet.
Then why didn’t anyone in the House add the Amendment?
And why didn’t Romanoff/Sirota/Hamsher push on Pelosi or Degette or Polis?
Campaign stunt.
As a member of the Rules Committee and a fundraiser with deep pockets, he would have been even more suited to twist leadership’s arm than Bennet, yet he didn’t go rogue with a public option. Why is that?
Why don’t we ask Jared … who just sent out this statement:
Y’all do realize this isn’t the last reconciliation bill of the year, right? It’s not the end of the world, or the public option, if it gets a 50+Biden vote later this year — after all, a public option wouldn’t go into effect for a while anyway, so it really doesn’t matter whether it passes this week or later this year.
so who will be introducing the Public Option bill?
He said so yesterday.
Diane Degette.
Obama signed the reform bill into law. It is the law of the land. How do one or a thousand amendments to the reconciliation bill change that? They don’t!
JP – check this out:
http://www.opencongress.org/ar…
All of these amendments could have been dumped. I think the media has done a piss poor job of explaining this. IMO, there seems to be some important funding and insurance reform in this language.
doesn’t seem to be loading tonight. I’ll try it again tomorrow. Thx KB.
I’d still love his answer.
I’m still waiting for who in Colorado Senatorial races in either party over the last 40 years is corrupt.
No answer.