Update:
apparently Politico has removed the earlier statement about the PAC money –
http://www.politico.com/news/s…
There is a tizzy over a statement about to the potential of the Romanoff campaign accepting DSCC money and accusing him of backing off his no PAC claim.
but this is the statement from Andrew Romanoff
I am not taking PAC money now, and I will not take any PAC money in the general election.
The DSCC is now supporting my opponent, supplementing the $1.3 million he has taken from PACs with independent expenditures of its own.
After I win the primary, I will ask the DSCC to honor my pledge by excluding PAC dollars from any contributions or expenditures it makes on my behalf.
And this is possible, despite what Colorado Pols says – from the original story itself in the Politico (which Colorado Pols could have easily included if it wasn’t so slanted)
While the DSCC has agreed to forgo contributions from lobbyists or political action committees to fund events at which President Barck Obama is the headliner, it accepts those funds in all other instances.
http://www.politico.com/news/s…
So not only is it possible to fund a candidate from the DSCC without PAC money, just as has been done with Barack Obama.
An email from the campaign:
We must be doing something right.
Now we’re under attack not only from my Democratic opponent, but also from the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC). The attacks may not have been coordinated, but they use the same script. “Andrew Romanoff is a dishonest, career politician,” says the Bennet campaign. “Andrew Romanoff is a hypocrite, plain and simple,” says the NRSC.
The source of this slander? The opposition said I couldn’t win if I didn’t accept contributions from political action committees (PACs) and then accused me of planning to do so in the general election.
Both statements are false. I don’t take any PAC money now, I have not done so at any point in this campaign, and I will not do so in the general election. I don’t know how to make my stand any clearer.
To set this matter to rest, I took one further step today. I vowed to ask the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) to exclude any PAC dollars from contributions or expenditures it makes on my behalf. (The DSCC is supporting my opponent, supplementing the $1.3 million he has taken from PACs with independent expenditures of its own.)
I wish my opponent had been willing to discuss these issues in the open, instead of ducking nine debates and hiding behind surrogates. I’m slated for another debate — without him — tomorrow.
Coloradans deserve better. They deserve a senator who will answer their questions, as often and as frankly as possible. Let me fulfill that pledge right now. If you would like to talk with me at any time (though preferably before midnight!), please call me at 303-***-****. That’s my home phone number. It seems only fair; after all, you get enough calls from candidates like me!
Update:
looking back over the frontpaged items by Colorado Pols there are 6 anti – Romaonff diaries just since Sunday.
There’s your proof that this site has an agenda in attacking Romanoff.
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Also- is AR2.0 also going to ask the DSCC to only use money from individual Coloradoans or is outsider money now ok too?
And the DSCC has already said it is improbable they could do it – so waht does AR2.0 intend to do with that?
no, they actually do it all the time for President Obama.
Didn’t you bother to read before you posted?
See, Wade, those are different.
you lying spinning asshat.
What you’re saying DSCC will do is truly a meaningless gesture. It’s just semantics.
If the DSCC solicits funds for Obama events, and uses those funds only to host Obama events, that’s one thing. But the only way that’s comparable is if the DSCC solicits funds for AR, and those are the only funds he gets. I don’t see that helping him.
Kind of a 1.0 re-boot, but whatever….
Well Vista doesn’t suck as much as Windows 7, but I don’t care cause I run XP on MAC OS.
By everything AR2.0 >2.1 has said, I full yexpect if he doesn’t win the primary next week, he’ll put a poll in the filed next winter and next summer he’ll announce he’s challenging for the House. If he’s downtown- DeGette.
Romanoff plans to take a scrambled egg and only eat the white parts.
And when the DSCC tells the rather presumptuous Romanoff that he doesn’t get to choose from where they raise money and they aren’t going to institute a whole separate accounting system to accommodate a promise a candidate made on their behalf, what will he do?
they use for Obama?
it’s pretty evident they can.
Bennet is down to the last straw if he is attacking the way Obama fundraises from the DSCC.
The DNC and the DSCC are not the same thing, genius.
can’t read
if it is done there, why not for others?
Take, Give
Take, Give
They describe DIFFERENT things. One is accepting money, one is distributing money. Taking money for certain events from certain people is not so difficult.
Being an entity that gathers much of its money from PACs (top industry contributing to DSCC–FIRE, Finance, Insurance, Real Estate) the issue is GIVING that money to candidates, hands outstretch likes AR 2.0.
From one pot, that money comes. PAC and others intermingled.
Wade…seriously, I’m worried for you man.
There’s a difference between raising and spending.
You’re delusional.
The don’t use PAC or lobbyist money to fund EVENTS for Obama.
A PAC or a lobbyist couldn’t underwrite a specific Obama event — that’s not the same thing as separating PAC money from an entire account when you are writing checks.
Think about it for a minute, biases aside. How could you separate PAC money out of one big account? The only way to do it would be if the DSCC had two separate bank accounts, where one was for PAC money and one was for individual contributions.
The DSCC is honoring Obama’s pledge not to raise lobbyist/PAC money at the events he headlines. In other words, he refuses to raise lobbyist money for the DSCC.
They make no promises about how the commingled funds are spent.
too bad the truth is out there.
Not only is it possible, it is part of the DSCC’s new reform passed in the 2007 reform act.
http://www.politico.com/news/s…
He doesn’t know the difference between an individual contribution collected by a lobbyist and given to a candidate and a corporate PAC.
Nor the difference between the DCCC and the DSCC.
I promise you the DCCC isn’t planning any expenditure on Romanoff2.0 in 2010.
Interesting.
Oh wait- big fat lie.
Truth:
The DSCC accepts PAC money.
See http://www.fec.gov
that’s a PAC TW.
That has nothing to do with the 2007 Honest Leadership and Open Government Act.
That’s a fact. And you’re a piece of work.
shit.
Individual fundraising events involving the President and his cabinet can’t raise money from PAC’s and Federal lobbyists. That doesn’t mean the money raised from those events doesn’t go into the same bank account as an event that does include checks from PAC’s and lobbyists.
Try to keep up. We’re not talking trigonometry here.
To Take:
To Give:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com
From the Politico article you linked to:
You are talking about two entirely different things, Wade. It’s easy to control what money you accept on the front end, which is the disclosure part you are talking about. What is impossible is separating the funds after they have all been put in the same pot.
We’ll go back to the cookie analogy. It’s easy to say, “Don’t put salt in that batch of cookies you are making.” It’s impossible, once the cookies are made, to say, “Please take the salt out.”
We’re going to assume you really do understand this and are just trying to spin it favorably for Romanoff, because this isn’t that difficult of a concept.
that users, for their own benefit, can be suspended for being really rally stupid.
But at lest I understand Wade’s motivation here.
Imagine non CoPols insider surfs on in here.
Sees another new diary demonstrating that AR2.0 is a flip flopping liar.
And in the all the comments are some confusing and twisty denials.
Then a new diary saying it’s ok, it’s all good, just a simple misunderstanding cause CoPols supports Bennet
And that non insider leaves thinking- well, there’s room for disagreement somehow.
It doesn’t matter to Wade that he’s spinning and obfuscating and …you get the idea.
I mean even if human climate change is a myth or a fad, we should still seek new forms of energy– see, all good.
WWAR3.0D?
We encourage people to disagree with us — but with FACTS. We’re not big fans of saying, “You’re wrong, and this piece of incorrect information I have proves that you’re wrong.”
how many bank accounts do you have?
I have a small business that requires me to have a Merchant account and an Operating account.
If you are saying the DSCC can’t easily separate individual funds by opening a separate account, then you obviously underestimate the Democratic leadership.
It’s not that hard to do,
but since your whole argument rests on that it can’t be done, the Colorado Pols editors are unable to accept that it is both possible and practical for candidates wishing to emulate Obama’s Presidential campaign.
We didn’t say the DSCC couldn’t create separate bank accounts for PAC money and non-PAC money. But what is undeniably true, RIGHT NOW, is that they don’t separate those funds into different accounts. As long as that remains true, there is no way to dole out “non-PAC money.”
This discussion isn’t about all the theoretical things that the DSCC might be able to do in order to accommodate Romanoff. If the Primary ended today, and Romanoff was the nominee, there is NO WAY the DSCC could provide “PAC-free” money to his campaign.
If they tried would AR2.1 also ask to only receive support from money donated by individual Coloradans- or is that whole outside thing out the window too?
And why the hell should they?
Or something.
I applaud your dedication.
Now if you could just fix either your stupidity or your credibility…
Not sure Wade does. It would cut into his shilling.
Politico has removed the PAC statement.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/s…
That quote is still there.
Please clarify.
or can’t you?
Or can’t you.
a dozen others.
or can’t you?