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Nice try, Frazier.
would be saying the craigslist Adult Services listings weren’t somehow facilitating prostitution (and, by extension, human trafficking and all the rest). Those listings are gone, because craigslist takes responsibility for its role promoting undesirable behavior. Frazier should take heed.
This “service” matches employers with cheaper out-sourced options. OK. I get wanting cheaper and somebody else’s problem. But Meg Whitman’s illegal housekeeper was being paid $23 an hour. Would it really have been that hard to find a citizen or legal resident willing to work for $23 an hour or is it more than just saving money? Do the elite just prefer their labor not only cheap and/or offshore where possible but, in any case, as helpless, scared and intimidated as they can manage? Reminds me of the Saudis who occasionally get caught here holding slave maids captive by confiscating their papers. They’d never in a million years want a legit domestic employee with rights.
may have paid her $23 per hour but she likely didn’t follow the other applicable wage and hour laws re: overtime, breaks etc.
Further, Whitman could be like WWE CEO and Connecticut Republican Senate Candidate Linda McMahon who, while advocating the reduction of the minimum wage, admitted she didn’t even know what it was….
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…
And I’ll even vote for her.
Signed,
Another American who will (work for fair wages.)
That’s the problem.
Whitman appears to have prorated her housekeeper’s salary over 40 hours.
But how many hours did she REALLY work? If you hire an undocumented employee, who is going to complain?
This is typical Republican bullshit. Hire an illegal then bully them.
Note: I understand the snark.
At Whitman’s level of wealth, a good chance that the housekeeper was live in, 24/7. But count wages as a 40 hour week, as you say.
So she couldn’t get anyone legal to work for $23 an hour with maybe 12 extra hours for nothing. Pretty much the same slave situation as with Saudis.
Guess Tanc and Whitman are against illegals outside their own homes. Inside, definitely the way to go to get the most bang for the buck with the least complaints. And with Rs always willing to overlook that kind of hypocrisy, low risk. But Whitman isn’t running in a safe R district. She’s running in a Dem friendly statewide. May not roll off her back as easily as it did off Tanc’s.
Council Member Frazier spent a lot of time in Africa and Asia during the last few years. It looks like those trips are paying off now.
Markey is in serious danger of being dropped by the DCCC.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.n…
In the House last week Markey was out if 17-19 seats switch, this week 18. Last week her chance of winning 21%. This week 20%
Salazar was out last week if 39 seats switch. This week he is out if 38 seats switch. Last week he a 41% chance of winning. This week it is 44%.
Perlmuter was out if 67 seats switched both last week and this week. His percentage of winning for both weeks is 79%.
even though they claimed to draw their ideas for Pledge to America from a website called “America Speaking Out.” It turns out that one of the ideas that’s drawn the most interest on their website is ending tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas.
If a company can save money and stay in business by purchasing services performed by a third party outside the US rather than a third party inside the US it will and should be permitted to do so. To legislate otherwise would be as effective as legislating against gravity.
same old shitfresh new ideas found in the ‘Pledge’ was just a marketing gimmick, and the GOP really doesn’t care what people actually think as long as they can manipulate that to return tothe graces of K Streetpower?In the 21st century we have a seamless interconnected world. I have someone make calls for me from India. I go there a couple times a year. His phone bill is the same as if he was next door. His computer costs less than mine. He does a good job and costs me about 1/3 of what it would cost to do the same in the US.
The problem is not outsourcing. The problem is we have a lot of people who do not have the skill sets to compete in the 21st century. Do we as a society, like the Soviet Union did, subsidize inefficiency until we go out of business as a country or do we go through the pain required to compete?
Outsourcing is not a political question. It is a bipartisan bogey man.
much less skilled and less competent employees offshore. It’s just a bunch of bullcrap that Americans don’t have the skill sets to compete. Republicans just don’t care about anyone except themselves, the large corporations, and the wealthy. The rest is just pandering.
but it is a cost benefit analysis. You can’t be serious if you mean all of the people replaced have the skill set to compete. If they have the skills and are competent and are cost competitive their jobs would not be outsourced. It is economics. Business people would rather not oursource if all things are equal. They outsource when they are not.
Why do you hate America, H-man?
The cost-benefit analysis is done by people whose fiduciary duty is to the stockholders, not their country.
I think that stinks. You clearly don’t.
When that is the trump card, it belies a rather weak argument.
A company has an obligation to its shareholders to act in their economic best interest and to their contry to act consistent with the law.
If I can get someone to do the same job at 1/3 the cost I would not be acting in the interest of the company to pay three times as much. Is it patriotic to have US companies not be competitive because of some failed notion of paying non-competitive wages?
Socialism is an economic loser system and a system for losers.
For profit.
To countries who pay substandard wages and even accept child labor.
I’d say you hate American workers. And by extension, you hate America.
We the People do not necessarily have the same interests as the corporate shareholders. Our government is supposed to represent us as a whole; it has a choice – remove some of the regulations protecting us from abuse at the workplace, ensure that overseas labor has the same protections, or enforce tariffs on overseas labor and goods.
Since I don’t really want to go back to the days of the Love Canal, or 80-hour work weeks, or unsafe working conditions, my vote is for one of the latter two options.
PS – A completely free market system is designed for bullies, not innovators or society builders.
The cost-benefit analysis is done by people whose fiduciary duty is to the stockholders, not their country. It is my experience that the people who make these decisions for large corporations have no idea if the specific skill sets match and don’t seem to care.
Perlmutter and you seem to have a problem with a black businessman involved in facilitating the employment of black, brown and yellow skinned people around the world.
Racisms still sells to the base, huh?
If the facilitated jobs were by a white Dem candidate for Canada making hockey equipment, same outrage?
Seems to me this is just left wing racism warmed over as Dem politics. You guys must feel proud of yourselves.
is about not having brown, black, or yellow ten-year-olds working 16 hours a day in a factory, then call me a left-wing racist.
That was about the silliest thing you have ever written, H-man, and you write a lot of silly stuff.
[excerpt] “There is work to be done, but workers aren’t ready to do it – they’re in the wrong places, or they have the wrong skills. Our problems are ‘structural’ and will take many years to solve.
“But don’t bother asking for evidence that justifies this bleak view. There isn’t any. On the contrary, all the facts suggest that high unemployment in America is the result of inadequate demand. Saying there are no easy answers sounds wise, but it’s actually foolish: Our unemployment crisis could be cured quickly if we had the intellectual clarity and political will to act. In other words, structural unemployment is a fake problem, which mainly serves as an excuse for not pursuing real solutions. –Paul Krugman
Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/09/…
So do your Indians have skills unavailable in America? To make outbound phone calls? I sure made thousands of them in my sales days. From home. And with Skype or other VoIP service, the phone cost is inconsequential.
Doesn’t sound like it’s a skill set issue. It’s your greed.
Claiming unemployment is due to lacking skills is both dishonest and ineffective. It’s what politician (mostly Republicans)claimed during the First Republican Great Depression, too. Believing this claptrap allows great hand wringing and inaction.
Hire American unless you absolutely can’t.
An overused term but it has a lot of truth. A programmer in china is equivalent to one in durango. All that matters is how good they are.
On the flip side, salaries are equalizing because of this. Hiring a top programmer in china or India is expensive. What people get confused over is you have mediocre programmers elsewhere who are a lot cheaper – but mediocre programmers are expensive – because you need a lot of them and you still get crap.
There are a lot of people out of work right now, and Ryan Frazier is responsible for some of that. The people let go by the decision to outsource are not contributing to our economy, and they’re pissed that someone overseas got their job just because they work for less money (or work more hours…).
This ad will resonate with voters.
Sad, but that is what is at the heart of it.
is American jobs outsourced using tax policies that support outsourcing. Your comments here tell me that Republicans like you don’t care about American jobs, your fellow Americans, or the American economy. It’s all about your and the corporation’s bottom line.
Who is stirring up bigotry every which way this year, from Latino to Muslim to GLBT.
This isn’t bigotry, it’s a class struggle where the lower and middle classes are starting to wake up to the fact that the upper class has been screwing them over since Nixon and Reagan.
Note to the shortsighted: if you outsource our jobs, we won’t be able to buy your products.
And in election season perception is at least as important and usually way more important than truth.
The D party did not cause this recession. Yet that doesn’t stop you and any other R’s from campaigning as if.
Likewise a hundred other issues, major and minor.
A legal fiction is more important than people. We are to serve corporations, they don’t serve us.
Gotcha.
Then to rub salt in the economic wound, our government SUBSIDIZES the outsourcing. Why not penalize?