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October 09, 2010 07:11 PM UTC
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After all, fair is fair.
There have been have been WWII historical reenactments going on for 35 years, and just now Democrats are noticing that there are people playing the German side!
This is what passes for front page news on Pols now? I could see it if it were a Colorado race, but really? Obviously there is no one on the left side who even knows anyone who does this. As I’ve noted here, I do. And these guys are obsessive history geeks. They are far more interested in making sure that everybody’s gear is historically accurate, if not original, than anything political. And that every military action is portrayed as factually as possible.
And the facts are, SS units took part in a hell of a lot of action, they are a part of history, and everyone who takes part in the German units know who won in the end.
Just a lot of smoke being blown here.
And one that was on the Eastern Front. As Aristotle laid out, every member of that division was a war criminal.
especially those of nordic extraction. Basically, they opened the sewers of Europe, releasing criminals from prison if they would agree to fight. You couldn’t pick a worse example of scum to celebrate. The fact that they did recruit non-Germans was used by postwar Nazi apologists as an excuse. One called the SS the forerunner of NATO because it recruited non-Germans in an anti-Communist cause. If you don’t mention the fact that t5hey they were rapists, thugs and murderers of the worst sort, he may have had a point.
But I emphatically do mention the fact.
Remember how we complained about Republicans using Nazi imagery too callously? We never actually believed they really wanted to be Nazis.
How naive we were.
In the 13th paragraph of that idiotic article…
The guy is just wrong if he thinks doing all the reenactments listed somehow compensates for the SS uniform.
I would have chosen to stick up for a DIFFERENT teabagger.
I’m just sayin’, ya know?
He’s obviosly a history nerd, not a Nazi nerd. But I understand desperation.
I built models of Tiger tanks when I was in Jr. High. I never realized that it signified my blessing of the butchering that went on on the Eastern Front..
But an SS Division? On the Eastern Front? What they did there was horrific. Something between 15 and 20 million Russians died in The Great Patriotic War.
the “Great Patriotic War” are Soviet Communists who look back longingly at Stalin’s reign as a period of glorious Soviet strength.
up to and including Russia, were some of the fiercest fighting in the war (European theater…as we Yanks say). The war wouldn’t have been won without the Russians fighting as well.
They were patriotic, fighting in a real sense for their country. Stalin’s atrocities aside–and I’m sure dressing as a Soviet henchman (for ‘historical’ purposes) would incite similar derision–dressing as a notorious Nazi unit is questionable and a bit troubling. What those people did in Eastern Europe–as the armies were advancing–paved the way for all the horrors that followed.
Every Russian I have ever talked to about this calls it “The Great Patriotic War.” This includes people in their 20s and 30s. But good to see that you know more than them…
One could be forgiven perhaps for not fully understanding what the Nazis were all about as a 12-year-old. At his age?
Just exactly when are Republicans expected to grow up and act like adults? After 40? After 50? After retirement? After death?
The man is not a 7th grader.
He’s 59 years old. He was born 6 years after the end of WWII. He joined the group as early as 2003. A man in his fifties joining a group that idealizes “German supremacy” knows what the hell he is endorsing. Give me a break here.
Sometimes, people really are this awful and sometimes it really is as bad as it looks and doesn’t deserve to be defended. This is one of those instances and this is one of those people.
And I am a history nerd. I’d guess I have more than a hundred Tiger I, Tiger II, Panther, Panzer IV and Panzer III tanks in my collection, as well as assault guns. Needless to say, I have hundreds more Shermans, T-34s (all in all, the war’s best tank) JS-3s, british Malildas, Churchills, etc. and I almost forgot my beloved Pershings (the best U.S. tank, a 90mm Tiger killer. Alas, it debuted very late in the war.
I have more than 2,000 models overall, mostly ships. But studying and modeling the key weapons of the war, on all sides, does not one a nazi make. (P.S., the Tiger was highly overrated. They made only about 500 Tiger Is and maybe 600 Tiger IIs. We made more than 50,000 Shermans.)
But putting on a nazi uniform and celebrating one of the most brutal SS units ever is just sick.
Taking a photo in a Nazi uniform just seems like it probably isn’t ever a good idea, unless you’re in a movie about Nazis, I guess.
Nazis are like anchovies; nothing is ever better when they’re included.
What about Caesar salad? Is it better with Nazis?
especially on pizza. So, yeah, I’d put nazis on Caesar salad, but only because the fasces originated with caesar, or around that time, anyway, oh, forget it.
Luccock article about when fascism comes to America.
I’m not ready to judge this guy on this alone. I can’t find anything in this article or on the group’s website that screams “Hiding Place for Antisemites”.
If you’re gonna have WWII re-enactments, you need to have Nazis. Pretending to be a Nazi for re-enactments doesn’t mean you sympathize with Nazi ideals.
This is dumb.
Ever. For any reason whatsoever?
If you find yourself thinking, “You know, some Nazis would really make this party/re-enactment/barbecue/etc complete,” then you should immediately just STOP thinking and go home. Nazis are like anchovies; nothing is ever better when they’re included.
Colorado Pols Corollary
Caesar Salad!
Cabaret
The Producers
Inglorious Basterds
WWII re-enactments
Being a current Nazi is inexcusable and wrong, but I find nothing wrong with the group that this guy belongs to.
How would you have a WWII re-enactment without Nazis?
You’re the one in a Klan hood…
If I wanted to show someone the history of the south with a re-enactment then someone would have to dress as a Klansman. Either that or I don’t mention the Klan at all, but that would be wrong and irresponsible.
He heard that I didn’t like General Irwin Rommel.That’s the first thing he asked me. “So I here you don’t like Gen.Rommel.”
This wasn’t a small company either.
I’m Jewish.
Needless to say it became a hostile work enviroment.
Another lady stated out of the blue one day that” Jews don’t respect the American flag and holocaust survivors were ungrateful for liberation”..the sup was standing right next to her and did nothing.
A week after that I stated in a team meeting that the anti-semitism bothered me. Lead worker blurts out that I have to expect it any where.i respond that the civil rights act of 1964 says that I don’t.
So not wanting them fired, I made an informal complaint and suggested to the director that they do racial sensitivity training. She made it voluntary. The lead worker didn’t take it to heart and cosntantly referred to Rose Medical as that “Jew hospital” as he had a sleep study done there.
The sup did honestly improve , though. For a very happy ending (NOT) My reward for trying to be nice was that the manager targeted me for layoff, which he did in July.
I worked for Qwest Communications for 9 years. The manager’s name is Tom Barker.