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May 07, 2012 03:35 PM UTC

Monday Open Thread

  • 39 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“The habit of persistence is the habit of victory.”

–Herbert Kaufman

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39 thoughts on “Monday Open Thread

    1. either today or tomorrow, where it will pass with a minimum of +1 (Gerou carries on a proud tradition for HD 25).

      My cynicism doesn’t think it will be “delayed” so much as just not scheduled. The louder Looper is in committee, the more likely that is. If she says nothing, or, God forbid, votes yes (like she may have back when she was still reasonable), then it will definitely make it to the House and pass. So hypothetical, but we would then see if support for civil unions really does matter for the extreme right. If Looper votes yes, Stephens hammers her for having done so and Looper wins anyway it would really say something.

      Any guesses for what’s not getting said? Now, go make some donations to House candidates in tight situations. People like Kagan and Primavera for the flip. That’s a good lad.

      1. It MUST be in the full house by the time they do the second readings tomorrow or it cannot pass. Which means it really has to pass Appropriations today.  

        1. which is necessary for it to get there at all, they could sit the CoW anytime after Approps and before midnight on Tuesday, ending with a third reading on Wednesday.

          Don’t see why they would, but they could do it that way.

          1. getting the House leadership to allow this to proceed at all has been hard enough. So I’m not counting on them to bend over backward to help it along.  

            1. and I mean literally this moment, so not in stone at all, the committee has been taken off the calendar for today.

              Ferrandino thinks maybe tomorrow.

    2. But if Cheri Gerou knew it was going to be killed and not passed or delayed, why would she announce her vote in the paper on Saturday?  The vote is of no political benefit to her so why would she announce it if there wasn’t, you know, going to be an actual vote?

    3. This morning, my count is at least 6 R’s voting yes if they get the chance, meaning the bill would pass by at least 38-27, if not more. But Speaker McNulty has also been very clear that they are under no obligation to allow the vote to happen, even if it passes Appropriations. The fact that he is reminding people of this either means that he is prepping to take the bill off the calendar or wants to make sure his party (not to mention the Speaker, personally) gets plenty of credit for being gracious and allowing it to proceed.  

  1. Terry Todd, candidate for HD 41, filed his mandatory campaign finance report last Friday showing $2,380 in donations from January 26 – May 2.

    Today, Jovan Melton, who won top line at the District Assembly in March by a 61-39 margin, will be filing the report for the same period.

    I don’t want to ruin the end for anybody, but I will just say that any doubts about who is winning will be erased very soon when the final numbers are released.  

  2. 47,000 = number of Oil & Gas wells and fracking sites in CO (with more added each day)

    17 = number of CO state inspectors tasked with certifying wells for safety and regs

    so what happens?  how can an inspector expect to visit over 2,760 well sites within a year?  They can’t, so wells go years without being checked for health & safety violations.  How many live downwind of a well or have a fracking site upstream?  What is being released in the air or dumped on the ground — we’ll never know.

    Just another gross frightening example of how  beholden we are to Oil & Gas.  

    1. Couldn’t we assume that if they visit 5% of the wells in a year they will have a good sample of what is going on with all the wells? Still a lot but it makes sense.

      Otherwise are you suggesting that a couple hundred additional inspectors be added and that each well be inspected annually?

      1. WTF?  you’re OK with just 2350 inspections a year?  5% sampling — NUTS!  In 2011 (per Colorado Oil & Gas Enforcement – Inspections) they just did 12,239 inspections but in your mind that’s excessive?  Get real.  

        We’re talking about known carcinogens and harzardous air pollutants like hydrogen chloride, ethylene glycol, formaldehyde, naphthalene, hydrogen fluoride, and diesel fuel being used 24-7.  We’re talking about subs to subs to subcontractors doing the work with all financial incentive to cut corners and skirt regs.  Inspections don’t happen but we should assume O&G follows all the safety rules outta the goodness of their hearts?

        If O&G wants to drill & pump then let’s tax them accordingly to cover inspectors.  We can’t wait until after the boom to hunt these belligerents down to clean up their toxic blooms.    

            1. I had same question as Droll and wells should be inspected yearly and more critically at specific times within the drilling cycle, but we’re even failng there.

              Inspectors admit that right now they’re lucky to spend 15-30 mins or so per inspection, so more thorough couldn’t occur with current staffing. Repeat offenders? Hah!  “Companies” that actually do the work pop up like leafy splurge and turnover so fast in a boom time.  Who gets shut down?  

              BP Gulf disaster is now one huge shell game of blame and recriminations while deformed crabs and eyeless shrimp a scraped up in trawl nets and generations of endangered sea turtles where wiped out.

              Code enforcement failures as well as imposing penalties and collecting fines is a systemic failure of our state.  We top nationwide polls in health, in natural beauty, in conservation and environmental awareness, in destinations, in best places to live … so why are we so stupid when it comes to this?

        1. I don’t know much about it and usually defer to a few of you to educate me.

          I’m wondering if a cycle would work, like every well is inspected every two years, or even five?

          Still way too few inspectors for something, I agree, that the industry should be paying for. Just like any other inspected industry.

          But curious all the same.

        2. Actually I would wonder how 17 inspectors did that many inspections, and were they effective.

          I would want fewer, but far more thorough inspections, with more attention paid to repeat offenders and new market entrants.

          The link you cite (thanks, very interesting) notes that enforcement of actual violations is low, with low fines as well. Execute better against that first. I would reckon that would also cause operators to ensure they are in compliance.

          Not my industry btw in case it is not obvious.  

      2. Couldn’t we assume that if they visit 5% of the wells in a year they will have a good sample of what is going on with all the wells?

        Each well has the capacity to do great damage. Just because well #5 is OK, means nothing about well #32.

  3. Ok, Romneybot minions, here’s your chance to post your normal mindless drivel about how the stimulus completely failed //how the stimulus didn’t stop the recession //how the stimulus didn’t turn the recession around

    how the stimulus didn’t turn the recession around fast enough…


    WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) – After years of gloom and doom, the outlook for the U.S. trade deficit has suddenly turned sunny.

    In a little-noticed forecast last month, the IMF said for the first time that global imbalances are expected to get better, not worse, in coming years.

    The IMF forecast that China’s current-account surplus be 4%-4.5% of GDP in 2017, much lower than the forecast of 7% in the last forecast last autumn. China’s surplus was over 10% of GDP prior to the crisis.

    On the other hand, Sal Guatieri, senior economist at BMO Capital Markets in Toronto, said the U.S. current account deficit, the broadest measure of international flows of goods, services and capital in and out of the U.S, is expected to narrow in coming years due to improved U.S. competitiveness.



    The U.S. export sector has become a bright spot in the recovery. Exports increased over 11% in 2010 and over 6.5% in 2011. Jeffrey Lacker, the president of the Richmond Federal Reserve, said he expected export growth to continue as emerging economies grow rapidly.

    http://www.marketwatch.com/sto

    Facty-thingie in picture form for ‘tad:

  4. You’d think at this point his advance staff would plan better to make it at least look like there’s some interest in hearing him speak….

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