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May 12, 2012 03:02 PM UTC

Weekend Open Thread

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  • by: Colorado Pols

“The tyrant dies and his rule is over. The martyr dies and his rule begins.”

–Soren Kierkegaard

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    1. The Chase disclosure was a warning shot across the bow……..play ball or else.

      The Wall Street propaganda about “falling out of love with Obama” isn’t false chatter.

      Fact is, he needs Wall Street at least in a neutral position, to win, and right now he doesn’t have them.

      1. Dimon’s announcement that they’ve lost $2b is and should be a complete embarrassment to Chase, further that is the minimum loss. It could grow as the full exposure is a @$100b position.

        Fridays penalty was @a $13b haircut. That is a signal that WS believes the initial reports to result in a such a cut to the JPMC value of that amount. Could it grow, sure, but then again it might only be $2b.

        Simon screwed up and he’ll have to pay in some fashion.

        As to WS not backing Obama …. Are you fucking kidding me. These WS whores make the goofy and emtioanal Hollywood crowd look like the Quad Cities Playhouse.

        1. Simplistic, to be sure, but pretty much your style.

          Good to see your hate and bile back, though.

          Probably safe to say you weren’t doing Reserves or the like, as your ilk doesn’t serve.

  4. Apparently at the Chambers recent Central Politburo luncheon Guv Hickenlooper announced his opinion that he supports Gay Marriage, but finds any notion of mandating churches and others to perform gay marriages or other services to be outrageous and wrong.

    Yet he has called his special session to only address civil unions. I guess I am confused. If he supports nearly full on gay marriage, why did he limit his call to only civil unions?

    Also, where was this guy in 2006-2010 … for four years his party had absolute control of the entire state government, yet never once did they once make any serious attempt to ‘level the playing field’ for our homosexual brothers and sisters. Then last week this Guvernor stands up at the capital and in his best shaky emotional voice demands action for only civil unions.

    I mean WTF, either you back full on gay marriage, nearly full on gay marriage or some bastardized civil unions purgatory position or oppose state recognition of homosexual household formation …. Come clean Guv and stand tall because we are all watching.

    3. I agree with Hick. I’m all for gay marraige, but it is outrageous for government to force churches to have gay weddings. It’s a simple concept called “personal liberty”.

      Or would you rather our government be in charge of our religious institutions?

      Not every political stance has to be off the left or right side of reasonable.

        1. Why does he qualify his stance with this?

          Does he also demand or support that religious institutions and other private organizations don’t have to offer, perform or respond to service demands or products built for or around gay marriage?

          1. No, Lib, he doesn’t demand that “other private organizations” get to discriminate against gay couples. Religious institutions are protected by the First Amendment, but a reception hall should no more be able to discriminate against a gay couple than it can against an interracial couple, and Hickenlooper is right to want that kind of bigotry kept out of the law.

    1. But it’s not the “permission” of a church, or a pastor, or a religious institution that makes anybody’s marraige legitimate.

      It’s the License.

      Churches may believe they have a “moral authority” on this, and some may agree, but legally, churches are irrelevant.

      And that is how it should be, as churches are, and should be at the mercy of those who find them relevant.

      I married my wife at the City and County Building, a Judge performed the ceremony.

      Perfect.

      The day a Marriage license is legal for anybody, regardless of sexual orientation, then that’s the day hate backs down.

      Doesn’t matter what man on dog santorum thinks.    

      2. CO recognizes common law marriage, no license needed. And the popular notion you have to live together for 7 yrs, etc. is not fact. A man and a woman can be considered legally married in common law if they intend to do so from day one, which may be evidenced by entering into a lease agreement together, a joint checking account, etc.

        Notice I said a man and a woman since the Colorado Constitution defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman. Therefore there is no common law same sex marriage.  

    3. Small turnout. Canines, nancycronk, and ProgressiveCowgirl (and someone else who can identify himself if he wants) showed up. Everyone else sucks more than Hickenlooper before Thursday.  

      1. …Vet stuff going on. Nothing I’m going to post, just trust me when I say that a 2-tour OEF Air Force FAC needs some support today.

        I’ll drink a beer later in ALL of your honors!

      2. Worth it to meet SXP and Canines — knew Nancy already and we’ve met a number of times, worth it also to spend some time chatting dogs with her!

        1. And nancycronk, as well.

          And good seeing sxp151, again, as well as He Who Cannot Be Named.

          nancycronk, here’s the trailer for that documentary on Newark, NJ Mayor Cory Booker, prior to his election. A worthy, political film (no matter what one’s feelings might be on Booker presently — and it seems like everyone has their own take):

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…

  8. Hickenloopers staff straighten him out on how ignorant are his comments regarding HB12-117?

    He apparently has said (in a story on Colorado Public Radio) that a blood-level reading for Cannibis use is as efficacious as it is for determining alcohol intoxication. Every piece of science I have seen in 40 years indicates otherwise.

    THC is fat soluble…alcohol is water soluble. THC stays in the blood long after the psychoactive effect is gone. Not so with alcohol. To equate the two indicates only the level of education still needed by our governor….or perhaps, instead, needed by me. You don’t suppose his support for this dog of a bill is a political favor? Nah, couldn’t be.  

    2. If you’re a heavy pot smoker and you have a high fat percentage, you can test positive for pot even a month after you quit.

      On the other hand. LSD-25 is undetectable a day after you take it.  

  9. Betty White endorses Obama for re-election



    For Betty White, President Obama is just golden.

    The 90-year-old “Golden Girls” actress “very, very much favors” the commander in chief for a second term, she told the Associated Press on Friday.

    Though White said she generally stays away from politics to avoid alienating any of her fans, she likes what Obama has done and “how he represents us.”

    White continues to land starring roles and earn comedic kudos in a career that spans nearly three-quarters of a century.

    In 2010, the “Hot in Cleveland” star became the oldest person to host “Saturday Night Live,” an appearance that earned White her seventh Emmy.

    White’s memoir, “If You Ask Me (And Of Course You Won’t),” won a Grammy in February for “Best Spoken Word Album.”

    White is the latest in a series of celebrities to back the President.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new…

    1. Political reporters live for a candidate with an attention getting surname.  Do you realize how many headlines they’ve already written just waiting for the story?  There’s a helluva bounty of low hanging fruit with “Dicks” in office.

  14. Will we help our fellow Californians?:

    Click on the chart from the link below. As you can see, California has the largest state economy in the US. And it is also the 9th largest economy in the world, ahead of Spain, India, Canada, Russia and Australia. Unfortunately, the 9th largest economy in the world, already reeling, is about to go through another hit of austerity:

    The state budget shortfall in California has increased dramatically in the last six months, forcing state officials to assemble a series of new spending cuts that are likely to mean further reductions to schools, health care and other social programs already battered by nearly five years of budget retrenchment, state officials announced on Saturday.

    Gov. Jerry Brown, disclosing the development in a video posted on YouTube, said that California’s shortfall was now projected to be $16 billion, up from $9.2 billion in January. Mr. Brown said that he would propose a revised budget on Monday to deal with it.

    “We are now facing a $16 billion hole, not the $9 billion we thought in January,” Mr. Brown said. “This means we will have to go much further and make cuts far greater than I asked for at the beginning of the year.”

    Mr. Brown disclosed the news in a video that had all the trappings of a campaign announcement. In it, he aggressively accounted for the steps he said he had taken to try to scale back a $26 billion deficit he found upon taking office. And he urged viewers to back an initiative he is putting on the November ballot that would increase sales taxes by 0.25 percent and impose an income tax surcharge on wealthy Californians to try to stave off more cuts.

    State officials said Mr. Brown’s proposal would include a package of immediate cuts, as well as others that would be triggered only if voters failed to approve his tax plan. The sales tax increase would expire after four years, while the income tax surcharge would last for seven years.

    State officials said the shortfall was a result of disappointing revenue collections in April as California continued to struggle to pull out of the recession. “We are still recovering from the worst recession since the 1930s,” Mr. Brown said.

    http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/

    1. They passed Proposition 13, and they’re fucked because of it. (And they helped fuck over lots of other states in the aftermath.)  It would be like asking other states to fund our schools because of TABOR. Only they can fix this problem; if they keep Prop. 13, it’ll just keep happening.

      California needs to pay for foisting Ronald Reagan on the rest of us.

      1. California is the leader in the American demand of their political leaders to provide more services and reduce taxes. Add to that the nationwide problems of educational and healthcare inflation substantially outpacing GDP growth and you have an inevitable disaster.

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