Frequently folks write about all the problems caused by unions. Maybe just as frequently folks write about the benefits unions have brought in the last 80+ years. I’ve never read a diary by anyone who has negotiated any of those contracts so I thought I would make an effort.
In the last 8 years I was responsible to negotiate 3 contracts with 2 small union locals of AFSCME and IAAF. Our city council 1) agreed to negotiate (in CO munis are not required to negotiate with unions, but are required to honor contracts), 2) agreed on what issues we were willing to negotiate on. Some of those issues were the same as the union’s, some were not.
Negotiations were never “against” as one poster suggested yesterday. 0ur city council decided, prior to negotiations, what we could afford to give on and what we could not. In the end negotiations were successful each time. It was never easy, AFSCME sent a negotiator from out of town to try to twist our arms. In the most recent instance we got to a deadline at which time the city can choose to no longer negotiate. Deadlines help.
I have never been in a union. Yet I do recognize their value. And, our city is in a position at the end when we know and the union members know that their concerns were respectfully listened too as were ours. We did get concessions that reduce the potential cost to the city when members retire.
I will always remember our negotiations as a period when we showed the utmost respect for one another even though and where we had an opportunity to demonstrate that respect for working people, the greatest asset our city has.
I believe to my core that our society is best served when there is not a party that says “my way or the highway”. Rather than that we are better served by a society, and governments, that are always willing to talk to one another, to consider the needs of each other. In union negotiations, as with any other contract, it is important to seek legal advice, to share information and to know how to make spreadsheets. With data it is possible to change the mind of hard nosed folks.
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the obvious point is that negotiations need to be taken seriously, as with any contract. If you have a contract that you don’t think you can continue then you need to negotiate one that works
The principle of respecting one another as citizens with equal rights has been under pressure for a long time now. Anymore, you get more mutual respect between baseball players than you do “statesmen”. I use that word intentionally, because you seldom see it tossed around in the halls of government these days, unless you’re talking about a bygone era.
Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Richard Perle, Wolfowitz, Feith, Kristol…on and on…stormtroopers all. To these men (and, no, I haven’t forgotten Ann, Michelle, Sarah, et al.) you are only a true patriot and real American citizen if you agree with them or will allow them to tell you how to live.
They believe liberalism is a disease, even though the changes wrought in society, so treasured by neo-cons, were almost all brought about by people considered, at the time, “libruls” by those who cannot accept change…(or evolution for that matter).
Yes, there are zealots on the left, but not in regiments and brigades like those who call themselves conservatives. Conservatives like to brag about individuality, but I have found they only have courage in numbers. Like Mitt Romney, the guys I named above are all chicken hawks who prefer to pay others to hold down their adversaries while they kick them…or cut off their hair, as it were.
As a spokesperson for conservation, I am always appalled that these “disciples of conspicuous consumption” call themselves conservatives. They should be called “egocentrists” perhaps, since their world is built around three words…I, Me, and Mine. You get no repect if you ain’t riding on their train.
Unions have always fought to increase the workers’ share of a workers’ value, as explained by that ol’ capitalist, Adam Smith. As the last unified voice of the workers that capitalists so love to exploit, the entire weight of the “free market experiment” is about to come down on their heads. We, as concerned citizens of this nation, MUST NOT allow labor unions to be eradicated by this current bunch of corporate thugs.
so..there.
did agree at the outset that we wanted to be respectful. There were times when things got testy. Negotiations went on for 6 months. When things get testy, when one begins to say “you don’t care about us”, it is a good idea to use data instead of feeling that you are getting over on another. But, these are people that I live with, people who I rely on to do their jobs well. I care about their success and their families. I care if their kids are going to go to college. I care if these people and their families will have good medical care. I DON’T want to feel like I “got over” on someone else.
Winning does NOT mean “I got everything I want and I don’t care whether you got anything you want.”. I think that is how Walker feels.