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September 05, 2012 03:27 PM UTC

Wednesday Open Thread

  • 32 Comments
  • by: Colorado Pols

“Nothing more completely baffles one who is full of trick and duplicity, than straightforward and simple integrity in another.”

–Charles Caleb Colton

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32 thoughts on “Wednesday Open Thread

    1. No C&P, how about that.

      AND you are correct, she painted a great word portrait of the president.  

      Now, I ask you, policies aside (as if that’s possible!!) would you prefer a president that is a caring human being, came from a simple middle class background who had to get student loans for college, or an arrogant, spoiled, Mitt-centric, empathy-less, kinda guy?

      1. Brother Romney, a Boston bishop, a man who has led faithful members of his congregation with other faiths to help his community move forward is my choice.

        We all had so much hope for Obama. Sadly he has let down Americans with false promises, false choices, and a leading edge of division.

          1. Yet you don’t even attempt to counter the facts that Obama has let down Americans with false promises, false choices, and a leading edge of division.

            Obama has the dreams of his father, yet I and all other Americans have our dreams….dreams and hopes for our families, communities, and America herself.

            1. I might actually treat something you say with some respect.  Being continually, demonstrably full of BS, usually packaged in as unpleasant of a manner as you can, makes you worthy of exactly this. {   }    

              1. yeah, like all is now forgiven just because this ass finally hears the loud Suck sound coming outta Team R/R.

                Whew, Clint was a brilliant move and that whole laughable LIE-fest outta Tampa sure gave the righties a helluva bounce — right?.

                Trouble is TLC’s Honey Boo-Boo trailer trash delivered better ratings than the whole.  Their creepy Veep wannabe lost to a family full of gas-passing freaks.  

                GOPers might have a shitload of $ but that kinda loses its edge when ya got shit for brains running the show.

            2. Libertad’s (remedial) Lesson of the Day.

              Fact:  a truth demonstrable.  Something known to be true.  Something that can be shown to be true, to exist, or to have happened.

              Example of a Fact — Libertad is a shrieking dumbass.

              Your opinions about Barack Obama and his presidency are simply that; they are not “facts.”  Opinions are in themselves fine things, but the fact that you are a shrieking dumbass makes your opinions even less relevant than they would be for someone who is not . . .

              . . . and that’s a fact, Jack.

              We now return to your regularly scheduled program, already in progress.

              1. Jimmy Carter didn’t even screw it up this bad … well except for a few areas.

                Obama has done very well …. Middle class healthcare tax hike, inciting the people into class warfare, higher food and energy prices …. all stellar characteristics of a great leader, NOT?

                1. always regurgitating what you shouldn’t a et.

                  You think that Obama hasn’t fixed in 3.5 years what it took the Boosh Cabal 8 years to fuck up is bad leadership?  I think it’s amazing that he’s accomplished what he has, especially with an intransigent congress.

                  Go to Youtube and find Bill Clinton’s speech from last night night.  You need a ass whooping of some serious facts.  

  1. It’s very interesting how the DNCC is following the Bennet/Buck race and highlighting the issue of women’s rights.  I can’t remember a presidential race where gender politics has seen such focus.  

  2. He didn’t pull any punches!  Said all the things that the president can’t really do.  Said that Mitt was LYING about the welfare to work ads, and he was HIDING his taxes.

    A sample:

    Mitt Romney has so little economic patriotism that even his money needs a passport. It summers on the beaches of the Cayman Islands and winters on the slopes of the Swiss Alps. In Matthew, chapter 6, verse 21, the scriptures teach us that where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. My friends, any man who aspires to be our president should keep both his treasure and his heart in the United States of America. And it’s well past time for Mitt Romney to come clean with the American people.

    The whole speech in video or text is at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

  3. I, too, was bowled over by the first day of DNC. I agree with pr that Strickland was great.  I just read Polis’s speech…wonderful.  All the speakers were powerful.  My first thought, along with that of Chris Matthews, was “Where the hell have these people been?”  The Democratic Party has a “bench” after all.  It is time to give Debbie W-S a well deserved medal and a vacation and some of these others should step into the breech.

    I am a faithful viewer of MSNBC 5pm to 9pm…..and all I ever see is Eugene Robinson and Bob Frumm..and Michael Steel..

    But the memory of Wisconsin looms large.  There, the Democratic plan was the same one that the dems are using nationwide: The ground game:……register voters and GOTV.  The Wisconsin dems did that brilliantly, with not a hell of a lot of money and not as much time as OFA has had.  But, the dems lost the recall vote, Big Time.  The question is why.  The reason to ask is so that the mistakes are not repeated in November 2012.  

    1) if the answer is that the republicans had tons of money and controlled the airwaves…or at least the radio.  Then, OFA should just go skiing early, because the repubs and the PACS have more money than god, let alone the dems – and the repubs control the radio airwaves.

    2) If the answer is that Wisconsin voters felt that recall should be reserved for official malfeasance in office, not because of unpopular policies that the official was elected to implement.  Fair enough.  Why didn’t the

    dems know this?  My recollection was that in February of 2012, the recall had overwhelming support and looked as it if would win in a landslide.  When did popular support shift?  Did the dems know? If not, why not?

    3) The dems indulged themselves with a primary fight over who would be on the ballot to run against Walker.

    So while they were doing the primary dance, the big money exploited the dems preoccupation and waged their campaign for walker…..IMHO.

    4) The repubs saw this as a preclude to November…so everyone came…..The PACS, the Republican Governors,

    the candidates, the talk show hosts, the RNC….the slogan was “We are Wisconsin.”   The dems?  Not so much.  It was Ed Schultz carrying the water….beatifully….but it was just Ed Schultz.  The rest of the dems were  AWOL.

    My take:  The Democratic party had a bitter fight for the nomination in 2008.  Obama won and the party united for that election and Hillary joined the administration….but the Obama forces did not “heal” divisions at the state and local level.  Instead, the attempt was to build a national machine, loyal to Obama, OFA…..Obama intervened in local primary elections….with mixed results….lost Senators in Arkansas and PA – won in Colorado.  However, the price was the apathy of old time dems at the local and state.

    The national party simply did not get the feedback or the support it needed to win in MA in 2010, in the Congressional races and MOST importantly, in the state government races in 2010, and of course, Wisconsin.  

  4. A reasonable question to ask in any election year is whether we are better off today than we were four years ago. This year, the question happens to be remarkably easy to answer. Yes, by almost any measure, we are better off now than we were in the fall of 2008. Today our economy is growing, but back then it was shrinking. Today we’re adding new jobs every month, but back then we were shedding them at an alarming and increasing rate. Today businesses are boasting record profits, but back then they were awash in red ink.

    This is no accident. Over the past four years, aggressive actions taken by the federal government, including the economic stimulus package and the rescue of the auto industry, succeeded in turning our economy around and putting us back on the right economic path.

    http://www.americanprogressact

    Chart based on facty-thingies like statistics:

    1. Willard demographic, I have no doubt he’s better off than he was four years ago (even though he’s been admittedly “unemployed,” and is no longer job creatoring)

      Of course, Willard could easily show us all just how much worse off he is today under Obama than he was in 2008 under Bush . . . all he has to do is release those f’n tax returns.

    2. “Are you better off today than four years ago?”

      Trying to put on a Reagan wig, he asks the question he should have not asked.  

      Is he that historically stupid or does he think that whatever he says people will believe?  Oh, wait…..both.  

    3. The GOP calendar says 4 years = 3 1/2 years ago — only after the collective mind wipe of the Bush years.

      To them, there is a mysterious void between when Clinton left office and when the Kenyan Marxist dude took over in 2009 and wrecked everything.

      1. The GOP calendar says 4 years right now, because in early September 2008 things were still on the top side of the brink of tragically bad.

        Even if you measure from February 2009, the GOP can present jobs number that make the President look less than stellar.  Of course, it was Republicans and a few Blue Dog Democrats who partially neutered what was to be a much larger and more jobs-focused stimulus.  Mitch McConnell set it out loud – the Republicans’ job this past 3.5 years has been about making sure Obama doesn’t get a second term.  Not about the economy, not about getting America back on top of its game, but about defeating a political opponent.

  5. http://kdvr.com/2012/09/05/at-

    “It’s unfortunate that this [Obama] campaign has gone all over the place where we’re talking about someone turning in their tax returns, things that really don’t matter to me,” Hancock told FOX31 Denver. “Someone else’s tax returns are not going to put food on the table of my neighbor who may have been unemployed for a year.”

    The answer came in response to a question that had nothing to do with tax returns: “how do you think the president is going to win Colorado?”

    1. Student loans.  DADT.  Equal pay.  Obamacare. Bin Laden (dead) & GM (alive). Choice. Fuel standards.  Ending Bush’s wars. PTC.  ARRA.  

      Tax returns??? Not so much.  But I for one do think it is important that the someone who want to be POTUS should not hold himself unaccountable to the people of the US.    

  6. Want to give him the benefit of the doubt but would love to know if the register to vote letters noted in the Denver paper story today will go out a little more evenly to Rs / Ds / Is than his “I don’t think you’re a citizen” letters that included only 12% Rs.  

  7. Conservatives off TV in Michigan, Pennsylvania

    Conservatives have pulled advertising dollars out of Pennsylvania and Michigan and instead are focusing their money on less costly toss-up states.

    Independent groups are spending nearly $13 million in the coming days to counter President Barack Obama’s nominating convention in hopes of limiting any improvement he might see in polls.

    But conservatives’ hopes of expanding the playing field for Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney are on hold for the moment, according to consultants who track spending on political ads.

    “Over the last several weeks, the dynamics have been changing in a number of states that have led us to dedicate resources elsewhere,” said Jonathan Collegio, a spokesman for American Crossroads, a super PAC advised by George W. Bush political guru Karl Rove.

    http://www.businessweek.com/ap

    RIIIIGHTTT…which is like saying…”We’re just lulling them into a false sense of security!”

  8. ..the Democratic Party gets a real American Hero on theirs.

    LTC Tammy Duckworth, disabled Veteran, Purple Heart awardee, former head of the Illinois Dept of Veteran Affairs and a VA Undersecretary walks offstage after talking about Veterans issues.


  9. Tonight the DCSB has established that Brenda Smith will oversee one of Americas most accountable unions. In doing so it avoided a costly ballot measure strobgly opposed by Brenda Smith’s union the DCFT and it’s national the AFT.

    Tonight teachers, unions, students and tax payers have moved forward to create an accountable and member focused government union.

    Although FDR would oppose this union, they’ve found middle groud with this solution.

    What did the DCSb decide …. well they decided to act and save millions in tax payer and forced union dues from a brutal campaign.

    1. Should the district be prohibited from engaging in collective bargaining with the union?

    2. Should the district be prohibited from using public funding for the compensation of union leaders?

    3. Should the district be prohibited from collecting union dues from employee paychecks on the union’s behalf?

    Read more: Dougco schools pass on ballot issue – The Denver Post http://www.denverpost.com/brea

    Read The Denver Post’s Terms of Use of its content: http://www.denverpost.com/term

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