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In his speech to yesterday’s “Values Voter Summit,” organized by the conservative Family Research Council, Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan continued his pattern of delivering outright falsehoods in his speechifying.
“Now, apparently, the Obama-Biden ticket stands for an absolute, unqualified right to abortion – at any time, under any circumstance and even at taxpayer expense.”
It’s obvious the reporters should set the record straight here, but Associated Press chose not to, reporting Ryan’s comments this way:
[Ryan] also delivered a blistering critique of President Barack Obama’s position on abortion, saying the president stands for an “absolute, unqualified right to abortion.”
In its report, National Public Radio reported Ryan’s full comment about abortion, and corrected it:
That is not the president’s position on abortion rights. The Obama campaign responded that Ryan’s speech contained “over-the-top, dishonest attacks.”
Obama clearly supports a women’s right to choose, with restrictions, as codified under Roe vs. Wade.
To say that Obama supports abortion “under any circumstance and even at taxpayer expense” is so far from the truth, so completely disconnected to the facts, that you wonder why more national reporters didn’t call Ryan out on it, especially given that women are a focus of both campaigns.
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strikes again. He still hasn’t figured out that this isn’t the 1960s. It’s not even six months ago when even NPR was vapidly repeated any ol’ thing a politician said as though it were gospel.
Glad to see NPR trying to be braver.
At least a semblance of journalism and not stenographers.
With the invasion of Iraq II, several studies showed that the people who used NPR were the best informed of actual, you know, facty thingies.
For instance, “True or false, WMD’s have been found in Iraq.” Should be very simple, no? Yet a majority of that propaganda mouthpiece that we all “love,” said it was true. NPR listeners knew that no WMD’s had been found.
With Bush’s appointment of an R partisan to head CPB for a while, NPR took a turn toward the right. They’ve still got a number of reporters who are very kind toward Republicans even when they’re screwing up.
under what circumstances would Obama oppose killing a child ?
** When they can live outside the womb ?
I’m pretty sure that’s not his position.
I have a nephew born 3 months early, and I believe Obama would have supported killing him, if that’s what my sister-in-law wanted.
** After their 5th birthday ?
an embryo is not a child. Your question is dishonest on its face.
I have a beautiful 4 yr. old granddaughter named Evelyn. Her mother, who is not married to my son, considered abortion, but decided against it. I am glad she decided to bring Evelyn to this world, but it was HER decision to make and I would have respected that decision.
Her pregnancy was HER condition, her challenge, and her life. Every woman should have the right to make decisions about her own life and her own body…and about whether or not she will bear a child.
Society should be supportive…not interventionist.
….you would have to accept the teachings of the Jewish faith which your Christian faith is derived from. Especially since there isn’t word or intimation on these matters in the Christian Addendum.
A life begins with the first breath. That’s the way it’s been for thousands of Jewish years. “Breath” and “spirit” and the same word in Hebrew.
If Jesus came and was not going to change “one jot or tittle,” then what I’ve said still holds true.
If it doesn’t, Jesus lied.
Quite a dichotomy to embrace there.
You need help understanding things BX, but my rate is twice that of a therapist, and I’m only half as knowledgeable. You need a real therapist.
Another option? Stick to issues you have a rudimentary grasp of. Otherwise, you come off as just ignorant.
I never thought I’d see you trespassing on Tad and Arap’s front yards.
On this one issue, he’s an intractable ideologue, seemingly incapable of of any position out of line with the Vatican’s. His humor turns dark and mean here, if it’s in evidence at all.
You’re not a person.
2 minutes before delivery, a child is not a person.
not my view.
but thanks for the lessons.
Eastern European Jews, including my grandparents immigrant generation, was that abortion was permissible until quickening. That’s when you feel movement and roughly corresponds to the first trimester. This is not biblical, as I understand it, but a tradition like so many other practices.
As for what Obama supports or opposes, the answer is in the diary:
That decision does include conditions. You can look it up.
I know we won’t agree on this and I don’t expect you to accept my religious traditions on the subject any more than you should accept mine. The Jewish bible doesn’t have anything definitive to say on the subject (I don’t know much about the Christian bible except for generalities) and nobody is bound to accept the bible as the ultimate authority, even if it did.
What’s unfortunate is your insistence that Obama’s acceptance of a woman’s right to choose means he might think it’s OK to kill a 5 year old child. You know that’s hyperbolic nonsense and it doesn’t become you.
In any case I forgive you for being such a pain and I hope you’ll forgive me. We are commanded to seek and give forgiveness during the Days of Awe between the New Year and Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement.
Just checking my e-mail before Rosh Hashanna dinner so I wish you a Happy New Year and wish you well in all things except the political. Hope you lose continually there.
You seem to be a natural at reflection BC. Blessings to you and yours.
“Le’shana Tova Tikoteiv Vetichoteim (Le’Alter LeChaim Tovim U’Leshalom)”
over your precious unborn soul?
What we talk about extremism beliefs BX, you’re at the top. Killing mothers so that you can save the soul of embryos is pretty sick shit asshole. I’m sure you’re probably OUTRAGED by that statement and consider it is such a misrepresentation of your position but isn’t that exactly what you’re doing with your petty attacks on the president?
You and Lying Ryan are the dregs of the American Taliban with absolute belief that your petty ego will live forever. What a brave little man to fervently believe that the custodian of the form magically transforms at the moment of death. You couldn’t handle it if it was true that the human consciousness having completed its duties as custodian of the form dissipates at the final breath. “Oh my God, I was told that I was going to live forever”. Life and death might not be what you think it is American Taliban. If the soul is so immortal then what difference does it make if death occurs after a few weeks or a hundred years?
You don’t see the difference between caring for a fetus and caring for a 5 year old. I’ve cared for a 5 year old and I’m going to go out on a limb and say that being pregnant is a lot harder.
And no, 2 mintes before delivery, a fetus is not a person.