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March 20, 2013 07:27 AM UTC
42 Comments
Horrible news. Thoughts with his family, friends, and colleagues.
Do you think the killer was some neocon gun toting white male Christian? You know, a mouth breathing republicon. You're all privately hoping it's some Dudley Brown follower aren't you?
This is the 2nd time I recall a state corrections director being whacked. The other time was Oregon, I also recall he was an out of state hire too. He was knifed in the parking lot of his office, I don't think they ever found his killer.
Horrible deal, too bad he didn't have some personal protection, must not have thought he was at risk.
What made you such a twisted human being? I'm sorry for you.
Fuck you, Libertad. That is all you are worth today.
My condolences to the family. What a terrible tragedy.
You're a class act, Lib, and you do your peers proud.
Condolences to Mr. Clements' family. I hope his killer is found.
What's wiith all the toughguy talk, putad?
"Whacked"?
Too many video games late last night?
Try manning up, join the military.
By the way, the person you're mocking has a family, they're left to mourn him and try to make sense of all this. You truly are what society attempts not to be.
Where's that apology on your slander of Senator Menendez, you maggot?
Re Menendez. Hey I just highlighted to media story on his overseas teen hooker activities. The real story has always been his backdated $60k plane gift and his failure to pay taxes.
i would note there was a new story about Mensndez repeated use of an interstate hooker. They have her on tape and she's an adult American apparently.
Uh, no.
Again, disproven.
Ya gotta get away from WND.
Who needs WND when you have FauxNews and the steady stream of emailed Republican propaganda.
You are such an asshole. As a neighbor of the former warden at Super Max, I can tell you that they are very, very security conscious.
Condolences to the family and friends.
My comment is not directly realated to this man and his family, RIP.
I sometimes wonder if the average person of lets us say IQ range 95-100, takes their moral queue from Washington DC. Meaning crime rates are a barometer of DC morals, Liberty and Justice or lack thereof…
No.
Are you referring to you yourself, nock,,and your threat to shoot Government employees last week?
You know, nock, how you consider your assault weapon protection from them?
Your post stands as it stands.
This is very sad news. My condolences to his family and friends.
Hard to think of anyone more widely respected across the various stakeholders and constituencies as Director Clements. Affable, smart, fair. A true public servant.
Horrible, tragic. Have we ever had a state Cabinet member murdered in Colorado? Hope it's solved quickly.
I've never asked for anyone to be banned before and have even defended 'tad when others have callled for a ban. This is just too much.
I would like to formally request that La Libertad be banned from this site. 'Tad contributes nothing of value and this latest utterly vile response to a terrible tragedy is way, way, way over the line of decency.
Blogs can have rules about participation so I don't see this as a free speech issue. A lack of common decency this profound and offensive ought to qualify for a ban.
Our hearts go out to the friends and family of Scott Wasserman, simply, completely and with no qualifactions or hopes about the identity of the murderer other than that he or she be found, arrested, prosecuted, convicted and punished.
If La Libertad is not banned, and I would understand opposition to my position on the grounds of a different view of the proper roll of free speech on this blog, I suggest complete and absolute shunning. No more responses ever. That will certainly be my choice.
After reading that comment I feel like taking a very, long hot shower with a strong disinfectant in place of the usual soap.
Seconded. But he'll no doubt come back with some other user name and continue to make these kinds of idiotic responses.
While I disagree with Libertad's treatment of this tragedy, were commenters who tried to politicize the Aurora shooting banned?
no one tried to politicize the Aurora shooting on this site
You don't have ban anyone, ColoradoPols just needs bring back the penalty box, like it had on the old site.
Also seconded. I'm pissed bout Pols' double standard regarding this polster, and I think I'm going to write a diary about it. That seems to be the only way to get any answers from them.
But not tonight. Soon, though.
@Elliot, Libertad has been around a long time, and has a long history of needlessly terrible and offensive things to say. Pols used to have something called the "penalty box," which was a short term ban, and after Libertad (now known as "La Libertad") earned no less than three trips, Pols did say that the next transgression would be his last. They must live up to that, or I'm going to ditch this site in protest.
Libertad's account has been suspended until further notice.
Just out curiosity, what was your logic in suspsending the account?
You're proving my point.
Even with this, you can't resist "picking the other one".
Is this just a habit you don't realize you have?
Because if ColoradoPols standard was merely saying offensive things intended to insult a person maybe half the posters here should be banned. Including you too perhaps.
Nope.
Try again.
And i need that list of liberty infringements.
Get it done. If you're going to say gun legislation is robbing people of their liberty, show practical examples. Hard practical examples.
Elliot, I don't think his off-topic threadjacking here got him banned. I'd post the comment that did but for some reason google advanced search isn't cooperating. Just be assured that it was much worse than what you have seen, and that it wasn't his first time.
Pols, why "until further notice"? That implies that you're going to let him back on at some point, or are keeping the possibility open. That's not good enough.
Ok
I think it's the right decision. And until further notice, rather than permanent, is fair. I don't begrudge a second chance.
Pols never answered my questions about the timeout that we used to have. If 'tad is not banned he ought spend a month or so in timeout
Yeah, it's time.
Even so, as difficult as it is, I'm going to try to take Bluecat's advice. I'll try.
It's just that he's SUCH an asshole,
REst in Peace Mr. Clements. All of CO needs to provide whatever support we can to his family and to his coworkers. I have confidence that the perpetrator of this horrifying act of violence will be caught and we'll get to the bottom of this and appropriate punishment meted out
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Director Tom Clements helped bring seriously overdue reforms in CO prisons on solitary confinement and was an advocate for getting inmates the rehab and classes shown to make us all safer. His wife, Dr. Lisa Clements is a behavioral health expert who has helped give CO some of its best improvements this year for what we will be doing for improving mental health in CO. Both are extremely smart people who see and treat people as human beings. Kind people committed to doing good things for CO and already making a difference here. This is so sad beyond words. My deepest sympathies for his family and CO lost an amazing public servant.
Thank you for taking time for this, Senator Carroll.
Yours' is a sledge hammer post, as it brings a human story, put a human face and faces to this horrible tragedy.
Again, thank you.
ouch
Tom Clements was a man of both great decency and great courage. He believed in the fundamental humanity of all people, even those who had made horrible choices and went to DOC. He genuinely cared about people that so many others had given up on.
I can't imagine how his family feels, I barely knew the man and I am struggling.
Hard to describe how sad I feel just now. So sorry for his family and friends…I cannot grasp the pain with which his wife and family are now dealing. I, too, sincerely hope his killer is swiftly brought to justice.
I pledge to never again respond to that piece of shit who calls himself Libertad…ever.
To begin with, my sympathies to his family and co-workers My brother teaches at one of the women's facilities down south so this is a tad close to home.I read about this here this morning before I even read my email or checked the Post's website for late breaking news. I wanted to know more before I spoke and accidentally put my back paw in my mouth (like some people). Mr. Clements sound like a wonderful man. I'm baffled. From what I've read today, he sounds like a very nice guy who was in the prisoners' (and accused's) corner.He will be missed, probably a lot by the inmates.
It is still far too soon, not enough known, for resonable people to speculate about what led this murderous person to seek to destroy a family
Talking Points Memo has the story that the same gun was used in a shoot out with police authorities in Texas two days after the killing. Even Ebel was killed in that shooting, and may be the man who shot Mr. Clements.