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The Labor Advisory Committee for Trade Negotiations and Trade Policy (LAC) is the official advisory committee to the USTR representing workers in the trade negotiation process that led up to the TPP. The have just released their report to President Obama condemning the TPP. The report is fairly long, but I encourage all of you to read it. However, David Dayden does a quick review of the report: Labor Advisory Committee Report on TPP Synthesizes Everything Wrong About the Trade Deal. Anyone who suggests that TPP is good for America is nothing more than a lapdog of the 1%.
You are absolutely correct.
This is why I keep reminding Pols-sters of Michael Bennet's lie regarding this issue and Colorado Pols' blasé attitude in passing along the lie in service to Colorado's Senior Senator – a Democrat.
Yeah, the powers that be are bigger than all of us. We can't do anything about it. It would be worse with a Senator Beauprez or Suthers or Whohaa. But I expect just a bit more from our side, not the base political calculation that only cares if our senior senator has a (D – Mongo like), or an (R – Mongo no like) behind their name on the ballot.
Leo Gerard spells it out in a more rational way than I can, and as the circus of the Republican nominating process attracts nearly all our attention, the remainder being concerned with those evil and violent moslommen, corporations will be building bigger vaults in which they can horde their cash:
Same as it ever was. Until we vote lying creeps like Michael Bennet out of office.
"why I keep reminding Pol-sters of Michael Bennet's lie…….until we vote lying creeps like Michael Bennet out of office."
Thank you, Zappatero, for your unspoken endorsement of Tim Neville for US Senator.
Because Neville isn't a liar, or a creep?
Because he's not our kind of liar and creep.
To be clear: there will most likely NEVER be a Republican in Colorado who could get my endorsement, even with Donald Trump waterboarding me on the 18th of St. Andrews while Dr. Chaps ogles the scene.
But that doesn't mean I'll be a nice little CPols-ster who never criticizes one of his fellow Democrats. You know me better than that. 😉
Bennet is far better than an anti-abortion/anti-contraception jihadist like Tim Neville.
And interesting that you can’t find a Republican worth endorsing; while I can find Dems that can get my vote. As in the 2014 election when I voted for Cheri Jahn; Senate District 20; since I live in that district. Of course, the awful Republican alternative was Larry Queen…….
Why would any one who doesn't agree with the 21st century Republican agenda consider contributing to another toxic Republican majority by voting for any Republican considering the uniformly toxic legislation that comes out of every majority Republican legislative body? Zap and I disagree about his jihad against Bennet who is pretty much entirely in line with Obama and other Dems he tolerates well but we agree on not voting for any Republicans. Unless you like what Republican majorities pass, what their execs sign into law, their Secs of State who help them win those majorities and the AGs who sue over legislation we like, that's really a no brainer.
BlueCat: I guess we will continue to have this conversation. Have you visited the Conservation Colorado scorecard for the 2015 session of the state legislature? I've already pointed out, in another thread, that Senator Crowder broke with the caucus and voted to kill one of the bad public land bills earlier this year. Some Republicans scored fairly well, despite being Republicans.
I also just visited the 2015 scorecard for Planned Parenthood, which is highly relevant in these times. Two Republicans; Don Coram and Bob Rankin; scored 67 on a 0 to 100 scale. There are other scorecards, if you just do some basic research.
I'll continue to make the case that there are reasonable people in both parties. The areas where I do strongly disagree with my party are on religion & womens' reproductive rights. So, I'll see you at the Statehouse early next year when Senator Neville starts again with his b.s. bills.
I don't care about some Republicans. I care about the over all horrible performance of the Republican majority legislative bodies natinwide and at federal level and the Governors, Secs of State, AGs and potential Presidents who enhance their power.
And of course, besides the issues on which you and Dems share common ground, unlike you, we think the classic conservative economic theory you love is a disaster as well so we really have no reason for voting Republican, especially if doing so could create or help maintain a Republican majority as certainly is the case here in Colorado with both houses often so close. So, thanks, but I'll continue to just say no.
Once again, CHB, no answer to my point because you can't deny that what I say about majority Republican legislative bodies and their partners in other branches is true and that's why you always refuse to address that point and just find some nice Republicans doing some decent things to point to.
But they don't have the slightest relevance to my point because the only effect they can have if elected is to increase the number of Republicans in any legislative body, thus increasing the chances of those bodies being controlled by Republican majorities that pass horrible legislation.
It doesn't help to have couple of powerless "good" Republicans on some issues in those majorities even where a few are actually available. They rarely come over and vote with Dem minorities. The best way to block horrible majority R legislation is to deny Rs majorities and the only way to work toward that is to vote only for Dems and hope enough Dems win to deny majority status to Rs or, in the Senate, to be enough to block R majorities.
I'd have to be an idiot to vote for any individual who contributes or even just potentially contributes to turning over the power inherent in our system in holding the majority and those executive positions which enhance that majority’s power to the 21st century GOP when I know exactly what that will get us. It won't be any of the good stuff you tell me your examples support.
And you refuse to address that reality not because you're an idiot but because you can't handle the truth.
Crickets as always.
"anyone who suggests that TPP is good for America is nothing more than a lapdog of the 1%…….." Really, dude, really? Your thinking then is that people can't think for themselves? That people aren't smart enough to see that developed nations like Japan, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Chile, are part of this deal. Wait, wait…….it's that sucking sound I just heard; American jobs being sucked away to New Zealand….. Wow! And of course, a report generated by big labor is going to be biased towards big labor. Another surprise for the unwary.
I'll offer; you won't like it; that the alternative to TPP is to turn over economic dominance in the western Pacific to China. How will that work out for American jobs?
Regards, C.H.B.
TPP has problems, what treaty of piece of legislation ever hasn't? Perfection is a demanded chimera of fools (and an ex-wife I once knew). That's why there is, and should be, procedures to address grievances and unintended consequences.
As you correctly point out, the unacceptable alternative to TPP at his point in time, is a Chinese hegemony.
Thurston still sucks, nonetheless . . .
Sorry, but there's nothing preventing us from coming back around with a different trade proposal than TPP.
TPP is bad for no good reason other than corporate greed; it's bad for intellectual property, it's bad for the availability of drugs, it's bad for aggressively fighting climate change… It doesn't deserve to be ratified.
I'm sure that China's rulers don't mind another decade, or even two, of delay, until American liberals can put together a treaty that would be acceptable to all the other nations that may be party to an agreement?
China is, IMHO, mostly a red herring in this argument. We have trade. They have trade. The other nations have trade. Are you suggesting that if we don't have a new treaty that forces corporate crap down our throat that China will simply come in and take over our trade with all of these nations?
China will need to make the same type of trade negotiations. We don't need to give in to the fear on this any more than we need to give in to the fear calling for the banning of all Muslims entering the country.
Red herring, conflation, and straw men are obviously a problem for you …
I'm "suggesting" that, surprise, China's interests don't always necessarily reflect this country's concerns or sensibilities. And, whether a China reaches agreements (likely) with other nations to the detriment of American workers and interests, or not, doesn't really matter given their natural sphere of influence advantage and the trajectory of history over the past 50+ years.
Nations almost always fail themselves when they fail to engage with other nations and choose self-isolation instead, regardless of the nobility of their underlying intentions.
Following on with the Weekend thread about The Hairdo, this was a good piece and comforting for those of us who cringe at the thought of President Trump:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-ushers-in-an-era-of-pitchfork-populism/2015/12/10/707086b2-9f7d-11e5-8728-1af6af208198_story.html
And this:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-should-be-no-match-for-the-moderate-majority/2015/12/13/d264f854-a044-11e5-a3c5-c77f2cc5a43c_story.html?wpisrc=nl_draw
On a lighter note, Republican Humorist (yes, a rare beast) P.J. O'Rourke gives his take on the GOP Clown Car occupants (via the Colorado Independent):
Some of the reasons O'Rourke gives (this guy could sell refrigerators to Eskimos!):
If you get a chance, get O'Rourke's "Holidays in Hell" and "Republican Party Reptile" from the library. Hilarious (I have Holidays, which is about vacationing, in the 1980s, in such neat places like Lebanon and Nicaragua. Dodging bullets makes your vacation more fun).
And speaking of Navy ships, John McCain had some choice comments about the USS Milwaukee breaking down at sea and having to get towed back to port; less than a month after it got commissioned. But hey, think of all those great jobs provided by defense contractor scew-ups and cost overruns.
Thanks for the recommendations. I've actually followed O'Rourke since his National Lampoon days 40 years ago, as well as his occasional contribution to Car and Driver magazine.
I read both of those books years ago, and re-read them recently to remind me that there are still some sane Republicans left.
I recommend them to anyone.
If a reason to invade Iraq was wanted, felony interior decorating would have done. Imagine Liberace as an inner-city high school basketball star who'd just signed an NBA contract and converted to Islam.
Dibbs on Huckabee as the next Clown to exit the GOP race:
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/alice-stewart-leaves-mike-huckabee-campaign-216744
For our resident Republican trolls:
Why Jeb! is going nowhere – his campaign committee didn't even buy up all of the web domains likely to be hijacked by opposition. Click on http://www.jebbush.com, to see what I mean.
This sums up Jeb?'s campaign pretty succinctly 🙂