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May 19, 2011 06:39 PM UTC

Make Peace With Your Maker By Saturday?

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  • by: Colorado Pols

As the Colorado Independent’s Joseph Boven reports:

The rise of gay pride is a sign delivered by God that the end of the world will begin in just a few short days on May 21. At least that is the prophecy of former Coloradan Harold Camping, the 89-year-old founder, president, and general manager of the radio network Family Stations Inc., the network that launched the end-of-world-campaign.

Christian Gay and lesbian groups say they aren’t so sure, and a professor at Iliff School of Theology says the claim that the world will end as the result of God’s wrath on a particular group of people transforms the end of the world prediction from a humorous story to a very dangerous one.

“No sign is as dramatic and clear as the phenomenal world-wide success of the Gay Pride movement,” Camping states in his online essay Gay Pride: Planned by God as a Sign of the End…

It is a message that meets with some skepticism within the gay community.

“We do not share this view of the rapture,” Karen Barr, moderator at the Christian organization Gay, Lesbian, & Affirming Disciples Alliance, Inc., said. “It is a modern invention that does not reflect the whole of the teaching of Jesus. We do believe that a world where people of all gender and sexual identities are welcomed, valued, and enjoy the same rights and responsibilities is a reflection of the values held in the heart of God as evidenced by the life and teachings of Jesus.”

We suppose that if the world does end this weekend, it really doesn’t make any difference whose fault it might be, does it? And if the world does not end, does that mean that Camping will admit that maybe God isn’t mad at homosexuals after all?

We’ve not heard from former Rep. Jim Welker, or incumbent Sen. Scott Renfroe, two Colorado politicos on the record with at least some equation of gay rights and mortal sin–so we can’t tell you with any certainty what their plans for Saturday might be. But if any of you out there are not sure how you’d like to dispose of your earthly belongings before then, send us an email and we can probably make that the least of your worries.

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52 thoughts on “Make Peace With Your Maker By Saturday?

  1. Geez, that shows how much I know – I thought the fact that the Canucks are six wins away from the Stanley Cup was the reason for God’s anger.

  2. …I’m pulling out all the old clothes that don’t meet my spec for the DAV store, and I’m going to lay them out on the ground very early in the morning.

    I wonder what will happen if some True Believer walks around the corner and thinks he missed the Big Rapture Recall?

    1. I think we should make a project out of this.  Combine photos of this, photos of empty ball fields with equipment laying about, photos of baseball stands empty with lots of drinks still in holders…  Make a video out of the collage, and post it on YouTube.

  3. I was raised in Chrisitian church that didn’t spend any time talking about the “rapture” – pretty sure we never used the word.

    If you believe the rapture is real, whether it could be calculated or known, whether Campion has it or not, could the rise of gay civil rights or gay really be the precursor? The causal or foretelling event?

    1. To suggest they know when the second-coming will occur or what reason God will have for the timing is simply ridiculous.  The early Christians thought is would happen while they were alive.  We know that wasn’t true.  As Christian believers, we can only say that it will happen some time and that we need to be prepared every day, not just when some nut job blasphemer says he knows what’s going on.  This man has been captured in a plot by the devil to destroy the church in the modern world.  It’s part of the same plot that has brought Church organizations into the political arena.

      You may be LOL, but actually, I’m no crank and this is what I believe.

      1. I recall clearly the first time someone told me, and then tried to convince me with a straight face that there were dinosaurs on Noah’s arc.

        And the first time I heard other stories from believers.

        Are there believers who really believe gay pride is the problem?

        Whether we can know or not know the time and method. Whether it’s going to happen or not.  Whether it’s what God means to occur or not.  

        You believe any belief about God’s motive or timing is simply ridiculous.  

        Except you also seem to believe it (rapture) will happen. That Campion is just a tool/agent of the devil, part of a plot to “destroy the church.”

        1. The reason gay pride is the problem, as opposed to homosexuality in general or any of the terrible things people do to people, is because as a cultural it’s the only “sin” we embrace. You kill, you gamble away your house and childrens’ food, you cheat on your spouse, you wear to much tacky clothing, and people do not applaud you for it. You wouldn’t hold a special event to let the world know.

          Or something.

          *A little background on me: I’m Jewish, my mother’s brother was “born again” and works for Focus. My grandmother’s third husband, who we were close with, was also a born again Christian, an Independent Baptist. My aunt and uncle think this guy has the day wrong, but I’d still better watch out (they have some great contradictions for Jews). My granddad would be grooming himself and praying right now. I don’t know much about Christianity, but I do know crazy in the name of poor Jesus.

          They would say that you don’t know the motive or timing because you aren’t close enough to Jesus. ‘Cause if you’re going for nutzoid, arrogance should be a given. Don’t point out what Jesus might think of that, you’re just a pissant sinner who doesn’t understand! #StillDon’tPointItOut

          1. Well, then shouldn’t the end of slavery, or the Civil Rights movement, or even the preotestant reformation or the Anglo schism, or any of a hundred other “sins” that are generally celebrated?

            Of course, the protestant reformation is the root cause of all this interpretation, reinterpretation and etc.

            But I see your point.

            Yes, there is murder. Yes, there is sin.

            But we aren’t proud of it.

    2. Just the Bible-thumping, burn-in-Hell ones.

      I know that growing up in my church, the entire Book of Revelation was pretty much off-limits for any kind of discussion on account of the curse at the end.  Perhaps a passage might be read, but it usually stood on its own.

      Gay pride, last I checked, isn’t one of the signs of the Apocalypse.

            1. I’m hoping we don’t see a “Window in the Skies.” If we do, I’ll be the first to say, “Some Days are Better than Others.”

              (Gee, I hope this discussion isn’t leaving the other readers “Numb.”)

        1. supposed to play Denver last year, which was June 12 or something like that? As I recall, it was a lot like today — rain and cold. Good gawd, it would have been miserable. I’m keeping my fingers crossed the forecasts for Saturday are accurate.

  4. if these kooks are so sure that the world is going to end, I would challenge them to sell all of their worldly posessions and give everything away since they will not be needing it come Sunday.  If they are not willing to do this, then obviously they have no faith.

    1. They shouldn’t need to “sell” their things because they’ll have no use for money after 5/21.  Just leave the front door open as of 11:59 pm on 5/20 so that you, I, and all the other sinners left behind can drown our sorrows by taking their X-boxes and Tae-Bo DVDs.

      1. A hammer makes more sense.

        All joking aside, ardy39 is right, some people really do start selling things, even their homes. There are Christian groups trying to counter the “prophecy” because they are afraid of mass suicides. Seriously. Especially if you know someone prone to depression who may have seen this as a way out, check on them.

      2. You have to sell.

        #1.  As any true believer will tell you, Jesus was a both a capitalist and a huge supporter of American free enterprise.  Don’t believe me, then ask Beej.

        #2.  After you sell (as God intends), you take all that money and give it immediately and withou any further though to the church.  Any clergy worth their prayer cloths will tell you that’s exactly how you lay up treasure in heaven, construct your eternal mansion, and ensure some huge everlasting reward points.  Don’t delay, this is truly a limited time offer.

  5. Do you have any proof that Renfroe or even Welker are buying into this ridiculousness?

    Whatever. I’ll take earthly belongings too, and I’ll turn them into profits instead of charity. Thanks in advance!

    1. But then again, being a Christian means being Christ-like, which in part means being charitable instead of greedy, so I think you’ll be Left Behind… 🙂

      1. .

        some might say that being a “Christian” has more to do with acknowledging one’s own sinfulness, repenting, and throwing themselves on the mercy of the Judge in the final Court.  

        If being Christian required being Christ-like, that would be one small religion.

        .

  6. .

    homosexuality, which has been around for many centuries, is finally pissing God off so much that He’s going to end the world, perhaps like He did to Sodom and Gomorrah,

    but

    events of the last century, including genocide, infanticide, war as a reelection gambit, the mass murder of nearly 100 million in the last 70 years,

    God is OK with that ?

    Is there anyone who can negotiate with God the way Abraham did to save us ?

    .

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