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Fat Donnie breaks his silence! Witch Hunt!!
The CNN Town Hall tonight should be a hoot. I'll pass. Anyone up to live blog? Pear? Moddy?
If CNN is just going to hand such an enormous platform to FDFQ, shouldn't they at least be prepared to call him out when he starts telling lies, which should be about 20 seconds into the program?
They seriously need to check him in real time. Where is Barbara Walters when we need her…
TRUMP: " They said it was a bad idea, now they're saying its great"
WALTERS " No, they're not!"
As a now-private citizen would he have to register as a sex offender if his appeal is denied? (asking for a friend). I just heard Alan “I had my underwear on!” Dershowitz just announce there are “several constitutional challenges” available to FDFQ. Is Rudy tanned, rested and ready to defend the Orange Menace?
No, this is a civil trial. There is no criminal guilty verdict here, only a preponderance of evidence liability.
Thanks. As CHB said, he'll keep this alive through appeals for the foreseeable future. I assume he'll have to post a bond in the meantime equal to the damages awarded?
Addressed partially below. I assume he would have to post a bond on the damages, in addition to the cost of the appeal. I don't think he gets years and years of appeals here. This is a Federal case to start, so no state-level appeals; nothing in this case screams Supreme Court worthiness, and anything that did has already been adjudicated. So, one shot at an appeal and done.
He isn't required to post a bond in order to appeal, only to stay execution of the judgment pending appeal. But the first step will be post-trial motions in the district court that will ask for a variety of relief (new trial, judgment notwithstanding the verdict, possibly remittitur, etc.). Once those are ruled on (I think it's a virtual certainty he'll file some such motions), then he (and possibly Carroll, if the judge alters the verdict/judgment) could appeal to the Second Circuit. Whether there are "cert. worthy" issues for SCOTUS remains to be seen, but absent something novel or interesting arising, I tend to agree that SCOTUS would stay out. But I expect trump to try anyway just to delay paying the judgment as long as possible. Conceivably, he could settle now, but I don't see him doing this if he thinks he can use this to his advantage for both fundraising and in the nomination campaign. Gross state of affairs, but here we are.
Thanks for the thorough explanation of process.
This first decision about defamation ought to contribute to the second trial on defamation. And if he keeps spouting off, I'm thinking E. Jean Carroll may be willing to find attorneys willing to take a flyer on further defamation cases.
The Orange Caligula won't pay a penny. He'll just appeal and appeal. That's been his long standing M.O. for decades as he stiffed contractors who did work for the Trump Organization.
I think under Federal rules, he may have to post a bond up front covering the potential costs of the appeal.
Monitarily, the $2.7mil of the award issued for defamation is a figure I believe Carroll's team had suggested as repair costs; only $1.7m of that is repair in the verdict. The $2m assault award is the big and surprising number and IMHO most likely to be reduced on appeal. Frankly, though, he has few grounds for appeal here; the judge was extremely cautious, and the jury pool reportedly diverse.
He only has to post a bond to stay execution of the judgment, though he likely will. Typically bonds are for more than the full judgment amount, in order to protect the judgment creditor and cover post-judgment interest. For example, Colorado state court rules require 125% of the judgment amount. It’ll be up to the district court judge to determine the appropriate bond amount, but trump will have no problem posting a bond should he want to.
What would be an acceptable bond? Would he have to provide solid assets worth the total amount into some sort of escrow?
He'd most likely get a bond through a surety company. There are many companies that do appeal bonds. He'll have to show assets sufficient to cover, but as much as he inflates his net worth, he'll have no problem getting one.
Federal law allows for a bond requirement to cover the cost of the appeal as well.
But a bond is not a requirement in order to appeal, only to stay execution of the judgment pending appeal. If he appeals without posting a bond, she can take actions to collect on the judgment.
Well, there are the appeal grounds right there, Phoenix. A jury of his peers are old, (pretend) rich white guys with the morals of alley cats.
FAKE NEWS! HOAX! LOCK HER UP!
Has anyone checked in with the PR guy for the #FYF crowd? (looking at you-know-who)
" Trump is not a role model for the MAGA youth of America". He's their god.
And to think, he could have avoided this verdict . . .
. . . If only he’d shown up and provided highly credible testimony.