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48 Comments
Funny how Feinstein thought it was just peachy when it was only Little People who were being spied on by the government.
Ain't it the truth, Ralphie? Not so cool when it's her skirt their looking up. I have been baffled at Sen. Feinstein's hawkishness on the whole surveillance issue. This is not the socially liberal mayor of San Francisco I thought we knew. But, having gotten her attention…
I'm not sure how willing I would be to cross the CIA, even were I a sitting Senator. When you think about the power and priorities of that culture, it might even be daunting to a POTUS.
Oops, "their".
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Kinda like the disruptive nature (to say the least) caused by the oil and gas companies wasn't a problem when it was just on the Western Slope?
You're right about Feinstein, Ralphie but kudos to Udall for his long standing consistently strong stand on overreach by our intel and security agencies that doesn't pass the smell test. Obviously this isn't a new concern that just popped into his head for political purposes. He has an established record on this issue. But it's going to be a very positive issue for appealing to a large chunk of indie voters who share these concerns. It also shows him as a man of principle not blindly devoted to supporting a Dem administration's policies.
There are those for whom any R's connection with the strict anti-choice movement will be a negative and those for whom Udall's connection with ACA will be a negative. Kind of a wash. But, as noted by ColPols, unlike with any R, on this issue nobody can say his view changes according to who's in the WH. This should be his signature issue going into the elections.
Agree with both Ralphie (that was my first thought) and Blue Cat (Udall has been leading on this all along).
But did Udall go on the floor of the Senate to do anything about it?
Feinstein has more cojones than Udall, which is sad.
Dead right. Udall had numerous chances to take a stand, and he didn't. He's an opportunist who only cares when it's good politics.
You all are just acting dumb. This is mean girl 5th grade stuff. You embarrass your party, but obviously not your faction. This only hurts our country, it certainly doesn't hurt our feelings or make us cowed or defensive.
Udall has led on this. For years. Feinstein has been an apologist for the NSA up till today
Sen. Udall has been the statesman in all of his questioning of NSA and CIA wrongdoing. He has pushed, gently, without crossing over the boundaries set by the law and without being boorish.
You don't have to make a floor speech on the Senate to be effective; Udall's letter to the President the other day got quite enough attention in the national press and elsewhere, and Feinstein's surprising statement today is the result.
BTW – Udall did give a floor speech today in conjunction with Feinstein's, showing growing unity in the Senate Intelligence Committee for confronting US intelligence agency abuses.
Udall has been complaining consistently and loudly and bravely about this stuff for years, on the senate floor and elsewhere. And even though many on your side think torture is just swell, we won't allow anyone to waterboard you into admitting the truth about Udall, just cuz we're such nice, liberal Citizens.
Yeah, he did.
Will someone please tell the shameless Robber Baron that Feinstein is the chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee and it doesn't have a damned thing to do with cojones?
Feinstein is more responsible on national security than Udall. Always has been always will be.
There, I just complimented a Democrat.
IOW…everything between now and November that has to do with the US Senate will be Mark Udall's fault if there is any negative that can be spun from it. CIA spying on the US SEnate…MARK UDALL! Lies made up by Koch astroturfers crumbing in the light of day? MARK UDALL! Get use to it Polsters… There is but one note to be sung by the chorus of trolls.
CT, That is not true.
I was going to nominate him for an award on father's day.
Being at a fundraiser while his kid was facing a judge deserves some kind of an award.
I'm widely regarded by all who know me as a serious asshole. Yet I've always managed to keep candidates' kids out of politics.
What's YOUR excuse?
You at least have some redeeming qualities. A Cowardly troll is just a turd. Its been proven on this site time an again. 100% pure fecal debris.
I'm going to ignore any future posts by AC on Mark's son, Jed. It tells me all I need to know about Andrew's character. I would suggest he adhere to the same decorum as was requested by Senator Rand Paul when his son was arrested recently in Charlotte, NC. It is a simple courtesy that should be afforded any politician, regardless of situation of party affiliation.
Ditto for spouses. I don't remember the lefties going after Cindy McCain in 199 when she admitted stealing Percocet and Vicodin, Schedule 2 drugs, from the American Voluntary Medical Team – each theft carrying a penalty of one year and a monetary fine. She ultimately did not face prosecution and was allowed to enter a pretrial diversion program and escaped with no blemish to her record. This didn't make Senator McCain any less effective or re-electable.
Really?
What do you base that on?
For the record, both are very good with National Security. Both do the homework neccessary to come to work and argue for good legislation, oversight, and for the safety of the nation.
Help me out here………….tell me ANY circumstance where Udall has in any way compromised National Security.
Didn't think so, you quack.
The only time Sen. Feinstein is "more responsible" than Sen. Udall on intelligence matters, IMHO, is when the state of Israel has a complaint. (And by "more responsible" I mean more willing to push the agency to get a result she wants.) She has been woefully absent in the NSA wiretapping and data collection overreach.
In contrast, Sen. Udall has been a consistent steady hand in military and intelligence matters, both in the House and now in the Senate. He has consistently shown willingness to challenge weak assumptions, question practices that infringe on the rights of the People, and support the agencies and their employees to the fullest when the cause is right and the need is there.
If we were electing a Colorado Senator this year based solely on their ability to guide this county on intelligence and military matters, none of the Republicans would make it out of the single digits vs. Mark Udall.
Like you;re fooling anyone, Modster.
make that you're
"Responsible" meaning what? Whatever is politically expedient to you at the moment whether it's true or not? Udall has been way out ahead of your party's defense-establishment robots on this issue. Suck it up and admit that he's right and you're wrong.
I do believe there are strict rules (maybe even laws) about what members of the intelligence committee can share outside their closed confines.
Yes. Only POTUS has the ability to automatically declassify material. Everyone else is subject to laws governing the handling of classified materials and their desire to retain their clearance.
True story — LBJ decided to publicly reveal the existence of the darkest classified airplane of the time, the RS-71 Blackbird back in 1964.
But when he did, he mixed up the designation, calling it the SR-71. Thus, not only did he instantly declassify the most amazing technical achievement of the time, he renamed it as well despite thousands of pages of classified documentation saying otherwise 🙂
interesting…
Curious. I thought you'd written that wrong before I finished reading your post, Davie. Have you ever been up close and personal with one of those beasts? They're something else. Fun fact: When they take off, they leak jet fuel like a strainer. Only after the metal heats up do the joints expand and seal the fuel tanks.
No, never got the chance to get up close and personal with one of those — I need to go to either the Smithsonian or take a trip up to Wright-Patterson to the Air Force Museum for that.
The reason for the leakage is because there weren't any seals that could withstand the operating temperatures at Mach 3.2. So the first thing the SR-71 crew does after take off is meet up with a tanker to take on much of their fuel.
I did get to approach an F-117 prior to the opening of DIA 20 years ago. However, the Air Force guard with an M-16 discouraged me from trying to touch the radar absorbant skin 😉
My wife and I got to see the Backbird at the Air and Space Museum in Huntsville,AL when we lived there for a year for her job. Lots of other cool toys there, too. Just outside the gates of Redstone Arsenal on Rte. 20 there they is a full-sized Saturn 5 rocket. It's become a landmark. At Christmastime they string lights from it and it looks like 33a Christmas tree.
Oops, "Blackird".
"Blackbird"
Sometimes I just can't spell to save my life!
Well, POTUS and Dick Cheney back in the day.
None of which apply on the floor of the senate as they are protected by the Constitution.
I believe they're protected from libel on the floor of the Senate, but not treason. Spilling national secrets is treason.
It seems that there are no clear answers, so members of the Intelligence COmmittees proceed caustiously so as not to loset heir priveleges. It is the Executive Branch that controls access to priveleged agency information. IOW, a senator can still lose their special (above Top Secret) security clearance, which is not the same as being prosecuted. There is no requirement that Senators be given access to above Top Secret secure information, but there is quite a bit of tussling over what prper oversight means. Thus spilling the beans on the Senate floor, although protected by the US Constituion does mean you continue to have access to secure info. << my understanding. And unlike A Cowardly troll (aka 'turd') I verify these things before posting, I do not just spit them up randomly like regurgitated nonsense.
Actually David, AC is probably more correct than you are in this case. The courts have held that the Speech or Debate Clause does provide protections, even when it involves classified materials. Case in point — Sen. Mike Gravel's reading the Pentagon Papers into the Congressional Record.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravel_v._United_States
But it has it's limits, and with today's make up of the SCOTUS, Mark Udall is probably wise to not try to push his luck.
My understanding is it has a lot to do with being able to continue to get briefings above the clearance level each Member is automatically granted. That above Top Secret clearance is a privelege, one that Members and the Exec spar over but that is not settled. << but that's not necessarily well-informed, just my understanding. (Its about loss of access to info more than prosecution).
That's basically correct. Gravel wasn't on the Intelligence Committee so he didn't really have to worry about getting cut off from security briefings. Udall certainly does, but he could also be taken to court as Gravel was.
Lots of anxiety in rightie Trollsville. Lots of indies will admire Udall taking this stand. As Udall grows in stature in the public view (And he will. His team will make sure of that), their clown car red CD extremist and none too bright candidate will shrink right before their eyes. And while what Phoenix says about incumbents with approval below a certain level being in trouble is true in general, when it is true it's reflected in polls.
I predict that being about even in the polls, as is the case now will be Udall's polling low point. As we get closer and the ads get going Udall's numbers will rise.
The more time they can spend in a room together with lots of people, the better for Sen. Udall. As the public gets a chance to see them side by side, the choice will get easier.
Rule #1 of bureaucractic power plays:
Never overtly infringe on the turf of the elected official charged with your oversight.
If true, these allegations show a level of hubris by NSA that has calcified to arrogance, and suggest that the information removed showed them with their hands in the cookie jar all the way to the elbows.
I don't care who does it, they need to be busted back to enlisted rank and there needs to be an in-depth national dialog to re-define the mission of this agency and their rules of engagement. They are out of control–set loose by GW Bush and wilfully enabled by Obama.
Udall is not what I would call a political risk-taker but he has consistently stood up and spoken out on this issue, even in opposition to Pres of his own party. And the great right-wing protectors of our individual freedoms have been notably silent–appears the only civil liberties that matter to them are those of unborn and gun owners.
And one more thing–
The most effective governance for the public good would be for leadership from both parties on the committe to issue a joint statement and work together on reforms. But I guess Repubs just aren't into that.
Righties just hate it when something like standing up to the President repeatedly ruins their he's just an Obama puppet narrative. Probably why our most dickish troll is trying to pivot one more time to a Udall being a lousy father narrative. That angle hasn't gotten any traction so far but hope springs eternal. Truth is, they feel this one slipping farther away.