The Denver Post's Mark Matthews–didn't see this coming, did you?
Speaking to reporters outside the White House, Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper said Tuesday afternoon that he supported the administration’s pledge to veto new legislation from Congress that would fast-track construction of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline…
Hickenlooper said Obama, a fellow Democrat, was making the right call in opposing the U.S.-Canada oil pipeline.
“He has not been persuaded that this something in the best interest — long-term — of the United States,” Hickenlooper said. “I know there are a lot of people in Colorado who disagree with that (but) … with the price of oil down as low as it is, I don’t think the Keystone pipeline makes sense.”
Support for the Keystone XL pipeline, which would speed the passage Canadian heavy crude oil to refineries and export terminals on the Gulf Coast, has become an article of faith for just about every energy industry backer and surrogate in Colorado politics. This is despite the fact that Colorado already has a pipeline connection from Commerce City to Alberta, and the Keystone XL pipeline would never enter the state. In fact, the biggest quantifiable effect completion of the Keystone XL pipeline on Colorado would have is an increase in local gas prices, as Canadian crude is routed to global markets via the Gulf Coast. The campaign trail claims by Cory Gardner last year that Keystone XL would create "thousands of jobs in Colorado" were simply hogwash, unsupported by any objective evidence.
And of course, there is the tar sands are really bad for the planet angle.
With that said, and Gov. John Hickenlooper makes this pretty clear, the biggest reason why Keystone XL is quickly becoming a nonstarter is the plunging global price of oil–which changes the economics of exporting massive quantities of low grade Canadian crude oil, well, anywhere. Now that low oil prices and a glut of supply have taken the immediate pressure off, a rational conversation about this project reveals a high cost with dubious benefits at best to the American economy.
It may not be as satisfying, but sometimes the bottom line speaks louder than a million protesters.
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Thank you, Governor.
Well, stick the Hickenfrackerdrinker's head on that (slimy Gardner) pretzel-guy figure, would ya?
How is this possible from Frackenlooper, a tool of O & G?
Looking for a cabinet post prior to Obama's exit or in the next Dem administration?
He got re-elected, Frank.
What happens when oil prices go up again? I can't believe Hickenlooper is this shortsighted. Currying favor for 2016 maybe??
Pre-21st Century commodity-based question. When did you start advocating for alternative energy, dipstick??
Not much in relation to a pipeline that won't be more than drop, more like a molecule, in the bucket as far as jobs are concerned, less where national security is concerned. It's the most insignificant thing you righties have ever made such a fuss over.
. . . well except for Benghazi, Ebola, the war on Christmas, losing 2nd amendment rights, deficits, birth certificates, government run healthcare . . .
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If it is really so insignicant, Blue Cat, then why has it been a left-wing litmus test so lomg. It can't be huge for the left and nothing for the right, can it?
Because the left is out to destroy the capitalist economy. That's what the war on CO2 is all about. CO2 isn't poison, it's progress. The left uses climate change mythology to attack America's free market system.
It's a close call which generates more toxic gases: Yertle McConnell's Kentucky coal mines or Moddy's pie hole.
Speaking of coal…someone has a LOT of splainin' to do…
Coal Companies are Selling Coal to Themselves to Get More Government Subsidies
Climate change is no myth. The long closed Northwest passage is now a routine run due to shrinking ice caps. on this issue, reality really does have a liberal bias — though the left needs to face the fact that its hatred of nuclear power is senseless in the face of the carbon crisis. Burning coal isn't progress but a mix of solar, wind and natural gas can reduce carbon emissions by 85 percent at less cost to the consumer. now that is progress!
Have I called you a fucking idiot yet this year?
Project Censored's #1 story of the year:
not clear on this Canines… you agree or disagree with the acidification of the oceans…I think the science shows this is happening
I'm unclear as to why you think I'd disagree.
What kind of leftist loonies are they publishing within The Bulletin of the Seismological Society of America, these days? Was this even peer reviewed? NY Times:
The evidence that hydraulic fracturing is directly related to frequency of earthquakes is mounting.
Holy Fucksticks. That is truly willfully ignorant.
Nah. He's just gamin' on ya. To quote George Clinton, that is.
I'm assuming you're quoting 'Thingy2' ?(I can't see his/its posts) I do hope he takes the time to read my post above ^^^ on how those Freedumb Lovin' coal companies are gaming the federal government subsidy program…
There's nothing like Freedumb. Freedumb of Canadian oil companies from paying the 8 cents per barrel assessment into the Oil Spill Liability Trust Fund required of US oil companies – which means the cost to clean up any spills along the pipeline could become the tax burden of U.S. Citizens.
"Holy Fucksticks" is understatement.
That entire post was so ignorant-dense, it just might qualify as an intellectual black hole . . .
The economic and security effects are insignificant while the right keeps trying to frame it as a jobs and security bonanza. It's huge for those who oppose it, including American Indians, for reasons you don't need to hear again. I'm sure you're aware of them. But it certainly is not huge for the right for the reasons they state; jobs and national security. Regardless of whether you support the pipeline or oppose it, the opposition is honest about their real concerns and goals. The supporters on the right, the ones whose talking point are mindlessly parroted by modster, are not.
Confusing thread. The above is a reply to Voyageur's reply to me. It's in the right box but so far away it's hard to tell.
Lets see what happens if Keystone comes to Obama bundled with a gas tax increase and a long-needed infrastructure program for highways, transit, and some harbor improvements. If the economics really do rule out the pipeline, as the left now insists, then it does no harm to approve it! But those whose opposition to the pipeline is theologically based will demand a veto even if it throws the baby infrastructure bill out with the keystone bathwater. Obama should insist on a high price for Keystone approval but if a reasonable compromise package comes to his desk, he should sign it. Then, if the economics have really changed permanently, we can forget about this argument. Actually, I suspectr the market will rebound — car sales are already soaring — and we will have $90 crude and the pipeline both within ten years. The economic cycle is just that, a cycle, and is bound by the passions of neither left nor right.
I agree completely.
I'm sure Voyageur is thrilled to have you on his side, modster.
Agreed, Voyageur. The pipeline has one strong argument in my mind: it's better than trains blowing up taking NoDak oil to market. It's usually the small towns who get the mess, and they lack the emergency crews to handle it.
Theologically based? You could just as easily say those who support it do so for both ideological and theological reasons. It's certainly not because of any concern for creating jobs or improving national security as simple logic and simple arithmetic prevent the project from being taken seriously as an effective means of addressing those concerns.
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