Politico reports, for those who have the intestinal fortitude to watch:
Donald Trump gave no ground on Sunday, insisting his crude remarks appearing to imply Fox News anchor Megyn Kelly was menstruating when she questioned him during the first Republican presidential debate were anything but.
Three weeks after two of his rivals demanded he quit the race for the GOP presidential nomination and three days after a record 24 million viewers tuned into the GOP debate in Cleveland that many establishment Republicans predicted might be the beginning of the end for him, Trump is still center stage…
“I said nothing wrong whatsoever,” Trump declared on CNN’s “State of the Union” two days after he had said of Kelly on CNN: “You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her — wherever.”
During Thursday night’s debate, Donald Trump’s not just willingness, but eagerness to crack wise about the encyclopedia of distasteful things he has said about various women over the years–and yes, it’s been about many more women than Rosie O’Donnell–was almost transfixing in its gossip-show audacity. We suppose Trump could have smashed somebody over the head with a chair Geraldo style to make it even more memorable but that’s about it. Trump’s arrogant boardroom brashness never faltered once, and it was magnificent like watching Hannibal Lecter feed that guy his own brain.
And apparently, the viewers loved it:
Post-Debate Poll (NBC) Trump 23% Cruz 13% Carson 11% Fiorina 8% Rubio 8% Bush 7% Walker 7% That’s quite a 1, 2, 3…
— ian bremmer (@ianbremmer) August 9, 2015
At least for the time being, Trump’s catch-all defense against the charge of being a sexist blowhard that “the nation has no time for political correctness” is carrying him in the polls–even further ingratiating him to a not-insubstantial percentage of voters who are themselves…you know, politically incorrect too, and are ecstatic that somebody is finally out there in the headlines giving “the skirts” and “the Mexicans” what for.
For Republicans interested in winning the upcoming general election in November of 2016 instead of merely gratifying the pissed-off white fortysomething closeted sexist bigot demographic for TV ratings purposes, every day that Trump continues to stink up the GOP brand is a new disaster.
But try telling that to him or the people cheering him on. Go ahead, then tell us what they say.
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I am so looking forward to the poll results 2 weeks from now.
They will tell us a lot about the GOP (Party of Hate®) electorate.
Women, including Republican women, are not loving the Donald. His approval rating with R women was 15%, before his latest "blood from wherever" remarks.
Fewer than 1 in 5 women would vote for Donald Trump, no matter who his opponent is. This is per a July 30 Quinnipiac poll. See questions 3 and 21.
He could still be the GOP nominee, but he can't win the general without women's votes.
I don't know mama. That great prognosticator, DavidThi, told us that he thinks Trump might actually win the general election!
Trump needs to be careful about smearing Megan Kelly. She's not only smarter than he is, she has better hair.
That's not saying much. Meet Clyde from Every Which Way but Loose. He also has better hair than Trump.
. . . and, he's smarter.
Watch out or Trump will sue you!
Trump needs to be on the receiving end of one of Clyde's right turns.
this! You.
Doesn't everyone?
The left need to stop carrying the GOP's water and trying to frame Trump as an outlier.
While there are certainly Republicans that not only respect women but are feminists, the party is replete with misogynistic, he-man-woman-hater types (cf legitimate rape, transvaginal ultrasound, rape v. "not rape" rape, etc.).
As I've said before, Trump is the id of the current iteration of the GOP, and these are the party's baser instincts revealed. Let's stop pretending they aren't.
This just shows that the type of moron, comprising about a quarter of the Republican electorate, who loved Trump before the debate still love him. That the moron contingent skews for him rather than for any of the other nut jobs, like Huckabee or Cruz. It's still a small minority of potential voters in the 2016 presidential election, still a minority of conservative Republican voters and rightie indies, and it's also probably his ceiling.
It's still just the Trump Presidential Run Reality TV Show. Except for the havoc it's causing within the rightie media led by Fox. That's gonna leave a mark.
For the Fox "news" loving conservatives, Trump's transgression is not attacking a woman or the way he attacked her–he has done that plenty in the past. His transgression was attacking a Fox network woman. That's the only reason that crowd though Trump crossed the line.
New NBC News on-line survey out this morning. It was taken after the GOP debate last Thursday and during the fallout over Trump's comments about Megyn Kelly.
It shows the Donald not only holding his own in first place but picking up one percent (22% to 23%). The big surprise was who moved into second place: Rafael Theodoro Cruz going from 7% to 13%. Third place is held by Dr. Ben Carson with 11%. Carly Fiorina is now in fourth place w/ 8%.
Both Bush and Walker have dropped down into single digits at 7% each.
disregard my last post……it's already been posted elsewhere…….
Frank, the NBC survey monkey poll did not disaggregate for male and female votes. If they had, Trump's support among Republican women would have been much lower, as it was in this Q poll.
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AC, there is no "surrender" on Iran.There is smart diplomacy at work– and a way to continue nuclear disarmament of the world, which Obama has been better at than any other President.
Sanctions are kept in place; there is no way Iran will be able to make a nuclear bomb with constant oversight and access for observers. If they violate any terms, then severest sanctions come back into effect.
Bomb, bomb Iran, as McCain jokingly sang, is not a solution but a nightmare.
AC, you are right this far: there is deep distrust of both mainstream political parties. On the R side, it manifests as ever-greater lunacy and a rush to more extreme tea party politics and sensationalism. On the D side, Bernie is now being attacked by far-left socialist party builders. That is aside from his internal struggles to form a coherent narrative on Black Lives Matter, which he has done and is doing better with.
There are people on both sides of the political spectrum who want the 2016 election to implode, to the benefit of their own little splinter groups ,fundraising, and recruitment.
FU,
Three of the top four are not career politicians. That is my take away. Carly is making some noise, which in my view is a good thing.
Our current politics is so toxic, eg. folks who disagree with Obama's surrender on Iran are traitors, that there is a real throw the bums out thread to this. That may have something to do with Bernie's rise as well.
You do realize this deal is not a bi-lateral agreement between the US and Iran, but an international agreement between Iran and P5+1? Don't the wackadoodles have something more important to focus on? Jade Helm? Some zany Iowan marrying their lawn mower?
Is this what goes through A/C and Moderanus' heads when they are asleep? If so, they should learn to sleep with one eye open.
Someone once posted on here (a long time ago) about psych studies done of what liberals and what conservatives dream about. IIRC, the conservatives go to dark, frightening places even when asleep.
The sad thing is that the scariest part of that image for Moddy, AC, and their ilk, is that the guy holding the burning Constitution is black..
I noticed that, too. (Three of the top four were not career pols and even Cruz barely qualifies as a politician have been in his first and only elected position for 3 years.)
But I think this is a repeat of 4 years ago when Herman Cain and Michelle Bachman and Newt Gingrich (a career pol but something of a wave-maker) each had his or her 15 minutes of fame in the GOP race only to yield to he of the establishment whose turn it was to run next (Mittens).
I really don't see the GOP selecting Carly, Dr. Carson, Ted Cruz or the Donald.
Exactly.
Guess what? I got a fever! And the only prescription… is more Trump!
Some points to note:
1) online poll has thousands signing on to ban Megyn Kelly from future debate moderation.
2) Megyn Kelly is the one who claimed in the 2014 election that any Coloradoan could print off a mail-in ballot, as she tried to create an issue of voter fraud in Colorado. Scott Gessler, as Secretary of State and credit to him, promptly issued a public rebuttal and pointed out that such an option was available only to military stationed out of country.
3) recent speech by Carly Fiorina, now a darling of some far righties, where she said that the world's greatest civilization is/was Islam between 800 and 1600. That probably sinks her candidacy since so many far-righties are adamantly anti-Islam. So much for Carly’s “noise,” as claimed by Andrew C.
Thousands in a self selecting poll mean nothing much. I'm sure many more thousands are among the 25% give or take who love Trump and every dumb thing he says.
Naturally Megyn was among those on Fox making the false claim about Colorado voting. Repeating whatever turns up on the rightie intertubes without fact checking is standard Fox practice. The issue isn't Megyn Kelly. It's Trump's misogyny that's a turn off to those outside his minority segment of the GOP party. In this particular case Megyn's list of misogynist insults hurled at various women by Trump was, unlike her statements about our mail in ballots, accurate.
I don't expect any of this to move his numbers much. But I do think he's reached his moron support ceiling.
And furthermore to Gessler's credit, he did so without any reference to Kelly's menstrual cycle.
Haven't you heard? Trump clams he was referring to her nose.
The GOP is whistling past the graveyard again, given Trump's poll numbers are holding (and even slightly higher) after last week's debate:
Republicans just don't get that Trump is the natural result of all the poison, fear and hatred they have injected into the political process over the past decades.
What's that saying about "As ye sow, ye shall reap"?