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March 18, 2016 09:01 AM UTC

Radio host says a "good argument can be made" that America can't survive with "Islam within our borders"

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  • by: Jason Salzman

(Sounds constitutional to us! – Promoted by Colorado Pols)

Caller “David” told the world Friday, or at least the universe listening to Denver’s KLZ 560-AM, that “the only way that America can survive long term is to not have Islam within our borders.”

“If you have any amount of Islam, even if it’s 1 million or 2 million or 3 million, it will only grow because people are born into Islam, and they can’t leave Islam,” continued “David.” “There’s a death penalty for leaving Islam.  So whether it takes 100 years or 500 years, eventually that number will grow big enough that they will just vote out the Constitution.” Listen to KLZ’s Dan Muerer here 3.11.16

KLZ’s afternoon host David Muerer didn’t vomit, gasp at this, or lose his voice, or anything.

“You know, that is really a possibility,” Muerer responded to “David” on air, “Because, you know, like others have said:  you can’t beat a birthrate.  And I just don’t think we’re converting them to our side good enough. David, I really appreciate the call.  Thank you so much!”

When he responded to David, Muerer seemed to be hustling toward a commercial break, so I asked him if he really agreed with caller David’s bigotry.

“As far as the conversation with (Caller) David goes whether he’s a bigot or a man simply stating his fear I have no way of knowing. However, a good argument can be made for everything he is stating in his comments,” Muerer told me via email, inviting me to discuss the topic or any topic on his show.

Muerer went on in his email to partially contradict himself, saying there are “good patriotic American Muslims.” This despite the textbook bigoted believe that a certain religion should not be allowed in our country.

Muerer’s own inconsistency reflects what you find a lot on talk radio: bigotry manifested more as an amorphous reaction than a concrete thought. But the amorphous bigotry can be focused into a dangerous force by the right fascist.

In any case, here’s the rest of Muerer’s email to me:

“America can’t survive as the founders intended or even as we know it today if radical elements are successful. I do believe there are good patriotic American Muslims. In my opinion [American Islamic Forum for Democracy’s] Zuhdi Jasser is one of them. Do I agree with everything Mr. Jasser claims? No. Some, in my circles consider Mr. Jasser a threat. I do not. Am I against people from the Middle East? No. I have friends and acquaintances either from the Middle East or that is their heritage. I believe America has a unique culture that is worth preserving and defending.  Am I against the theocracy of Islam as I am against Progressivism, Socialism, and Communism? Yes. I don’t want to see America go down the same path as Europe. Islam needs to be stopped before it gets a stronghold in the US.”

Ugh.

Partial transcript of KLZ host Dan Muerer’s conversation with “Caller David” on Friday, March 11.

HOST DAN MUERER:  Well, you know, and you’re right.  George Bush started that lie that, you know, Islam is the religion of peace. It was an out-and-out lie.  It is not a religion of peace.  I tell you, it’s kind of –did you ever watch Star Trek?  It’s kind of like the Borg.  You know, we’re all peaceful as long as you become part of the Borg, you become part of the collective.  Islam is the same way.  You have to become part of the collective in order to be peaceful.  And then, in reality –

CALLER DAVID:  Eloi?  E-L-O-I?

MUERER:  Say that again.

CALLER DAVID:  Eloi.  There is there something called that in one of those science-fiction–.  Somebody used to write about that, how those –.

MUERER:  I’m not familiar with that.

CALLER DAVID:  Yeah, Eloi.  Yeah, they’re the people that just sort of like go along, like you say, like zombies, and that’s what the non-Muslims who are going along with the Muslim invasion of the West are.  They just go along with the program and unfortunately they just don’t even have the sense to realize that it’s not them– it’s not this people living now, [they] are not the ones that are really going to suffer.  It’s 50 years from now, when Islam has really taken hold and they’re going to look back at our generation, people who were alive during 9/11, and they are going to curse us to hell, if they have the sense even then to see what has happened to them and they’ll realize that we still had a chance to stop it. And we didn’t.  Because everybody was afraid to be called a bad name.

MUERER:  Well, you know, David, we’ve been trying to put out the warning here. I mean, we talk about what’s going on in Germany, —

CALLER DAVID:  Oh, I know it!

MUERER:  –about that even the road signs now are in both German and Arabic.  Uh, you know, you see what’s going on France. You see sharia law zones in Great Britain. You see what’s happening in Dearborn, Michigan.  You know, and for me, coming from Minneapolis — to see what’s happening in south Minneapolis, in the southern suburbs.

CALLER DAVID:  Oh, yeah!

MUERER:  It’s a cultural change.  We reported earlier this week — or maybe it was last week – that, you know, there’s scheduled that 1600 of the Syrian refugees are due here in Denver.  So, you know, it is a problem.  And I really–.

CALLER DAVID:  And, like one out of 1000 of them are Christian.  It’s all Muslims they’re bringing in.

MUERER:  No, none of these are Christians, as far as I know.  These are all Islam – as a matter of fact, the Christians are having one heck of a time getting out of there.  Our State Department is not letting the Christians in.  I would say for every hundred thousand Islam or Muslims they let in, they might let in one Christian right now.  Now, they may be opening that up a little bit because there’s been a lot of pressure applied, but in the middle of last year they were not allowing any of the Christians in the persecuted Christians into the United States.

CALLER DAVID:  They – they — I mean, I don’t know – I’ll say it.  I guess people can start mulling it over in their mind and coming to grips with it in their own way.  But the only way that America can survive long term is to not have Islam within our borders.  If you have any amount of Islam, even if it’s 1 million or 2 million or 3 million, it will only grow because people are born into Islam and they can’t leave Islam.  There’s a death penalty for leaving Islam.  So whether it takes 100 years or 500 years, eventually that number will grow big enough that they will just vote out the Constitution.

MUERER:  That – you know, that is really a possibility because, you know, like others have said:  you can’t beat a birthrate.  And I just don’t think we’re converting them to our side good enough. David, I really appreciate the call.  Thank you so much!

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8 thoughts on “Radio host says a “good argument can be made” that America can’t survive with “Islam within our borders”

  1. There's a good likelihood that there were Muslims in this country at the time of the American Revolution. I'd think the country has done really well at surviving since that time.  "Progressivism, socialism, communism……..;"  Mr. Meurer left out "fundamentalist & dominionist Christianity" which, IMHO, is a much bigger threat to America than Islam. 

  2. Actually it's a piss poor argument, just like arguments that a Catholic President would imperil the nation because of primary allegiance to the Pope or that the turn of the 20th century influx of Jews represented an existential threat to the American Christian way of life, leading to the shutting down of Jewish immigration in the mid 20s and turning away of Jews fleeing genocide during the 30s and 40s.

    It's the same argument made in the 19th century that an influx of Asians constituted a yellow peril that would pose an existential threat to white American culture driving a denial of access to citizenship and again manifesting itself most virulently in the WWII internment of Americans of Japanese descent.  

    We now hear the same basic argument that the influx of brown people from Mexico and points south represent a threat to white anglo-American culture as justifying calls for nothing more than guest worker satus and no path to citizenship.

    All of these arguments, like the arguments that Muslim Americans can never be as truly American as the rest of us, are fig leafs to cover up bigotry and xenophobia. They don't change the fact that most acts of domestic mass murder have been committed by plain old ordinary white, Christian background Americans. 

    1. Probably the foulest moment in 20th Century American history was when we turned away the St. Louis with its Jewish refugees and sent them on the road to Dachau.  Father, don't forgive them, for they knew exactly what they did.

      1. It's stuff like that that makes many American Jews willing to accept anything any Israelii government does as justifiable.

        Anyone my age or older, and I'm not quite old enough for medicare, is old enough to remember when Jews were barred in the way blacks were barred, though in fewer places and situations.

        Still. There were quotas limiting the number of Jews allowed entry to top drawer schools, particularly in the Ivy League, tony neighborhoods, clubs, organizations, resorts (and not just fancy ones but plenty of little middle class summer vacation cabin resorts) where no Jews were allowed. My mom remembers when banking was an entirely WASP enterprise that didn't employ Jews so Jews formed their own little neghborhood banks.

        My stepdad was a chemical engineer and when he got his first job he was the first Jew ever hired by the company he went to work for and still the only one in his office when he retired and this was in Chicago, not some small town with virtually no Jews. He always thought it helped that he was a blue eyed guy with a standard common Hungarian surname, not a Jewish sounding one. By the time they knew he was Jewish nobody cared because it was pretty impossible not to like my stepdad.

        Probably why so many Jews were involved in the fight for black civil rights and why Jews, including the wealthiest, are majority liberal Dems, quite aware that we're more naturally allied with other minorities and with immigrants than with any WASP elite.

        Both my grandmothers in different part of Ukraine at the time were hidden by Christian neighbors during the last great pogrom decades before WWII.  So neither the pogroms nor the Holocaust are ancient history to someone like me. They are stories I heard from my bubby and from members of our congregation my moms age, a single generation older, who had been in the camps. And we knew that children born not many years before we were born died there.

        It's why I find discussions about what makes a Jew, who should be considered a Jew, pretty naive. Those of us with a lick of sense know perfectly well who we are. There have never been any shortage of people to remind us if we forget.

  3. I'm pretty sure the host is Dan Muerer, not David.

    This is also par for the course as far as what falls out of his and John Rush's mouths. Last year, around Easter, Rush basically agreed with a guest that we needed a Christian theocracy in the US. They also bring up the birth rate thing with some regularity in the context of needing more Christian babies.

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